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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:47 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
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thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:Proof ?
here:
thebish wrote:I reckon we'll sign Butterfield later this season, but Coyle will be gone by then - probably we'll have poached Freedman off Palace, or summat like that.
Pretty conclusive. I think you had better apologise Bobo.
If he wasn't a man of the cloth I'd say he was one great big fat liar.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:06 am

So, what do people think we need in January, given the system Dougie seems to use and what we have?

For me we're light in the following areas, as it stands...

Left Back
Defensive midfield
Striker

At left back IF we don't keep Warnock, I dread to think.......

Andrews is doing a good job in front of the back four, we don't really have anyone else, IMO who could do that role. Spearing maybe, but I'm not massively rating Spearing and don't think he would offer the same physical protection Andrews does. I realise that opinion won't be agreed with on here, but such is life....

Up front we have NGog and Davies who can play the lone striker role. I'd send Afobe back if possible (which it may not be) and try and find another striker more suited to playing that role. Otherwise NGog is going to get mighty tired......

In terms of quality I think a better centre back would be a boost as well. And if Mears goes we may need right back cover too.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Jez » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:10 am

I think in January we should probably let Sordell go if this is how its gonna be

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:20 am

I'd love us to get a proper goal scorer. I'm not sure who is out there and who we can afford, but we need someone who can get regular goals for us. A Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin.type.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:35 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:I'd love us to get a proper goal scorer. I'm not sure who is out there and who we can afford, but we need someone who can get regular goals for us. A Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin.type.
Yes, but it would probably need to be one who can play up on his own.....

And I'd say we're unlikely to be able to find and/or afford that.

Certainly think we need someone who can offer a bit more goalthreat up there, than KD and NGog do at times though.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:19 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I'd love us to get a proper goal scorer. I'm not sure who is out there and who we can afford, but we need someone who can get regular goals for us. A Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin.type.
Yes, but it would probably need to be one who can play up on his own.....

And I'd say we're unlikely to be able to find and/or afford that.

Certainly think we need someone who can offer a bit more goalthreat up there, than KD and NGog do at times though.
My head's still working overtime trying to figure out how we spent 4m to do that and then turned the result into the invisible man?
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:42 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
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SmokinFrazier wrote:I'd love us to get a proper goal scorer. I'm not sure who is out there and who we can afford, but we need someone who can get regular goals for us. A Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin.type.
Yes, but it would probably need to be one who can play up on his own.....

And I'd say we're unlikely to be able to find and/or afford that.

Certainly think we need someone who can offer a bit more goalthreat up there, than KD and NGog do at times though.
My head's still working overtime trying to figure out how we spent 4m to do that and then turned the result into the invisible man?
On the subject of that (kind of).....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... s/10040883._/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by the-Bowtun-Warrior » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:12 pm

In Jan:

Send Afobe back.
Sign Jason Roberts.

Spearing MUST play IMO and I can't fathom how he's been ditched for Andrews. The lad is a bloody engine.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:13 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I'd love us to get a proper goal scorer. I'm not sure who is out there and who we can afford, but we need someone who can get regular goals for us. A Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Jordan Rhodes or Charlie Austin.type.
Yes, but it would probably need to be one who can play up on his own.....

And I'd say we're unlikely to be able to find and/or afford that.

Certainly think we need someone who can offer a bit more goalthreat up there, than KD and NGog do at times though.
My head's still working overtime trying to figure out how we spent 4m to do that and then turned the result into the invisible man?
On the subject of that (kind of).....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... s/10040883._/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It certainly is an oddity! I guess you could put his abscence from the match day squad the past two games down to all thats going on in his personal life and the whole Milwall situation in general but then there's the other 8/9 missing months...

Has his ship sailed???

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:16 pm

The hint I take from all that is that Dougie doesn't think Sordell's "head is in the right place". Which could mean he either has been upset by all the goings on, or DF doesn't like his attitude full stop.

I must admit I don't really know why any footballer would be arguing with folks on twitter like he does. Never going to do himself any favours.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by thebish » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:21 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
I must admit I don't really know why any footballer would be arguing with folks on twitter like he does. Never going to do himself any favours.
indeed... it always makes them look - well - just a bit twattish and puerile - but then that's no real surprise - young men with inflated egos and more money than they know what to do with - that doesn't often lead immediately to a lifestyle of reserved maturity...

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:45 pm

Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:54 pm

Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
But if you're famous and on twitter you're going to cop all sorts of abuse. Some of it deeply unpleasant.

I've read some of his tweets and he argues with people about a lot less than that.

You've got to be either able to a) just simply ignore anything on there that is abusive and report it if apporpriate b) not be on there in the first place.

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Post by thebish » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:00 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
But if you're famous and on twitter you're going to cop all sorts of abuse. Some of it deeply unpleasant.

I've read some of his tweets and he argues with people about a lot less than that.

You've got to be either able to a) just simply ignore anything on there that is abusive and report it if apporpriate b) not be on there in the first place.
Pru AGREES with your general point...

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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:02 pm

Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
Losing his cool, yes, but surely that sort of remark would just make you all the more determined to shut them up? The internet's full of annonymus keyboard warriors looking to make themselves feel good by posting abusive shit. Getting involved with them is totally a waste of space. Keep off Twitter/Facebook etc for a bit and shut them up with results.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:11 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
But if you're famous and on twitter you're going to cop all sorts of abuse. Some of it deeply unpleasant.

I've read some of his tweets and he argues with people about a lot less than that.

You've got to be either able to a) just simply ignore anything on there that is abusive and report it if apporpriate b) not be on there in the first place.
I've been concerned in the past by his reactions, as I was with Fab last year. He does seem very immature, and should rise above a lot of the stuff he gets involved with.

I would not extend that as far as being called a 'jungle ape'! I don't think it is fair to say 'oh well, that kind of stuff just happens and he needs to rise above it'.

As an example, should Danny Rose have kept his cool out in Serbia?
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:15 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
Losing his cool, yes, but surely that sort of remark would just make you all the more determined to shut them up? The internet's full of annonymus keyboard warriors looking to make themselves feel good by posting abusive shit. Getting involved with them is totally a waste of space. Keep off Twitter/Facebook etc for a bit and shut them up with results.
I don' think it would *just* make you all the more determined to shut them up, although that might be one reaction. I don't even know that he did get involved did he? That article makes it sound like he reported it but is still upset and angry about it. Either way I'm just not going to be quick to condemn any 21 year-old lad who reacts like that to something as horrible as that.

FWIW, I can understand the rationale of managers who ban it. I don't think football fans having direct access to young millionaire, often sheltered footballers is always going to turn out all right. Often the footballers should be more mature, case in point being Fab last year, or Marvin and his missus this. I don't think those same criticisms apply when being receiving that kind of stuff.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:19 pm

Prufrock wrote:
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Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
But if you're famous and on twitter you're going to cop all sorts of abuse. Some of it deeply unpleasant.

I've read some of his tweets and he argues with people about a lot less than that.

You've got to be either able to a) just simply ignore anything on there that is abusive and report it if apporpriate b) not be on there in the first place.
I've been concerned in the past by his reactions, as I was with Fab last year. He does seem very immature, and should rise above a lot of the stuff he gets involved with.

I would not extend that as far as being called a 'jungle ape'! I don't think it is fair to say 'oh well, that kind of stuff just happens and he needs to rise above it'.

As an example, should Danny Rose have kept his cool out in Serbia?
100% agree. But that tweet and any like it should be reported behind the scenes. Certainly not saying that is acceptable in any way shape or form.

I think the issue is that if he's getting that sort of abuse AND it is affecting his performance at the football club, he is paid enough money to either be able to report abuse privately and appropriately, or to come off twitter and concentrate fully on fulfilling his potential.

Its incredibly sad and pathetic that people are abusive to footballers (and well anyone on twitter) on there because they are at the very least trying to connect and share, something that they have been criticised for not doing before in the past. But sadly the idiots probably can't be changed, so how the players react and their response is key.

I think all I'm saying is that people will push whatever buttons they feel they can on there if they want to get a rise. Doesn't make it right, but I don't believe it can be changed. The more they react to anything on there, the more idiots they'll attract....if that makes sense.....

All Marvin can do is change his response OR if thats not possible leave and concentrate on making the morons eat their words by becoming the best player he possibly can!

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Sponge » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:24 pm

Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Whilst agreeing with the general point, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt if he is losing his cool after being called a 'jungle ape' ffs!
But if you're famous and on twitter you're going to cop all sorts of abuse. Some of it deeply unpleasant.

I've read some of his tweets and he argues with people about a lot less than that.

You've got to be either able to a) just simply ignore anything on there that is abusive and report it if apporpriate b) not be on there in the first place.
I've been concerned in the past by his reactions, as I was with Fab last year. He does seem very immature, and should rise above a lot of the stuff he gets involved with.

I would not extend that as far as being called a 'jungle ape'! I don't think it is fair to say 'oh well, that kind of stuff just happens and he needs to rise above it'.

As an example, should Danny Rose have kept his cool out in Serbia?


Obviously not. But why is he on there? He can always set his account to private and only allow friends and fans to follow him. I have a suspicion a lot of these minor celebrities revel in the abuse. To have "haters" means you're significant – people are paying you attention and thus reaffirming your fame and importance.

Frankly he comes across as a bit of an immature prick. Of course, that doesn't justify any of the abuse he gets – certainly not the racist stuff, which can never be justified – but still.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:45 pm

I agree that Sordell doesn't come across well on Twitter. I remember losing a bit of sympathy for Muamba after he moaned on there about not being picked. It's not good for the club for that to happen, I don't think, and whatever grievances the players have should stay within the club. Sordell has dropped some not so subtle hints about being unhappy he's not playing, but a better way to address the situation would be to work twice as hard in training, not to just moan to the fans.

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