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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:14 pm

I'll be fcuking amazed if we could get somebody capable of scoring the two yon mon scored today

Contrast that with TommyTugboat lumbering around the pitch 5 seconds behind the game
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by BL3 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:27 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:Charlton are flying at the moment and for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think we have a right to walk over any team in this division
No they aren't. They've won one of their last five. Barnsley weren't 'flying' either. Nor were Ipswich or Huddersfield for that matter.
Bijou Bob wrote:Mid table and only 5 or 6 points off the pace.
We're 7 points off the final play-off spot. One point more than we were when the previous manager left.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:29 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:I'll be fcuking amazed if we could get somebody capable of scoring the two yon mon scored today

Contrast that with TommyTugboat lumbering around the pitch 5 seconds behind the game
I don't mind how he scores them. More how often.

He ripped Cardiff a new one too - again, coming off the bench - and should've had two, the offside one, wasn't (and if he'd been able to take pengies maybe three).

So I see that. Like I say, just not very often and both today and Cardiff were from the bench.

I have no qualms about getting a new striker to replace Davo - if we don't do it this season, when will we? But Afobe doesn't look to be the answer, nor does Sordell at the minute - although he bagged 9 before we bought him last season, his head doesn't seem to be in the right place.

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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:32 pm

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Bijou Bob wrote:Charlton are flying at the moment and for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think we have a right to walk over any team in this division
No they aren't. They've won one of their last five. Barnsley weren't 'flying' either. Nor were Ipswich or Huddersfield for that matter.
Bijou Bob wrote:Mid table and only 5 or 6 points off the pace.
We're 7 points off the final play-off spot. One point more than we were when the previous manager left.
At the rate the previous manager was accumulating points, we'd have been 12 points off.

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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by ChrisC » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:52 pm

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Bijou Bob wrote:Charlton are flying at the moment and for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think we have a right to walk over any team in this division
No they aren't. They've won one of their last five. Barnsley weren't 'flying' either. Nor were Ipswich or Huddersfield for that matter.
Bijou Bob wrote:Mid table and only 5 or 6 points off the pace.
We're 7 points off the final play-off spot. One point more than we were when the previous manager left.
You must have been gutted today as each goal went in. Change the fecking record! I love how you select certain stats like the one regarding being 7 points off the play offs.. what you fail to mention is that we would have been 12 points of the pace at the rate we was going had the last lot still been in charge.

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Post by SmokinFrazier » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:07 am

I was always a supporter of Coyle because I like him and I don't think he's as bad as his record suggests, but he wasn't going to get us promoted. Freedman might not do either but I think getting rid of Coyle was a necessary step.

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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:09 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:I like him and I don't think he's as bad as his record suggests
Why?

All the available evidence suggests he was even worse

An absolute cockend of a man
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by DJBlu » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:47 am

BL3 wrote:
Bijou Bob wrote:Charlton are flying at the moment and for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would think we have a right to walk over any team in this division
No they aren't. They've won one of their last five. Barnsley weren't 'flying' either. Nor were Ipswich or Huddersfield for that matter.
Bijou Bob wrote:Mid table and only 5 or 6 points off the pace.
We're 7 points off the final play-off spot. One point more than we were when the previous manager left.
Yawn.

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Post by Leyther_Matt » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:54 am

Worthy4England wrote:nor does Sordell at the minute - although he bagged 9 before we bought him last season, his head doesn't seem to be in the right place.
Sordell reckons his body is in the wrong place. By about 200 miles. Feck all chance of finding a buyer in January though, which does make me wonder if we'd be prepared to spend the cash required to bring someone in.
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Post by Hodori » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:00 am

How did Lee play?

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Post by Enoch » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:12 am

Anyhow, up to a tenuous 13th.

Shall we have a party, or maybe just carry on c*nting everything off!!?

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Post by Hoboh » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:13 am

Lord Kangana wrote:This is getting tedious and irrelevant now.

You wanted Megson back. I hear showers of glass everytime you lob those rocks.
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Hoboh » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:20 am

89bwfc89 wrote:
Gail Platz wrote:
89bwfc89 wrote:To the booers. Don't bother coming again, you really peed me off today. To the guy behind me shouting come on dumpy (!?) to Butterfield when he came over to take a corner....erm what?
He is quite dumpy though.

PS it wasn't me saying that... although I did refer to him as a 'smaller fatter looking version of Chris Eagles' to my mate who came along and hasn't seen him before.

I don't think anything is meant by comments like that really, I don't think Butterfield had a good game today but generally he's been pretty good and I'm sure most fans agree on that.
Throw away comments like that to your mate I can understand but chanting it pretty loudly when he's running over to your corner for him and everybody else to hear? That's not going to inspire him to do his all for 3 points for the Whites nor is it teaching the younger kids who are there anything about passion or getting behind the lads. If someone was chanting shite like that to me I'd just think what's the point. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have even heard it and even if he did you'd hope he would rise above it but I'm not sure it's giving a great impression of the fans to a loanee we could potentially want to sign.

Hoboh - just to pick up on the point you made about fans worrying about booing rather than what's going on on the pitch, in my view, I think the two have a direct correlation which is what worrys me/angered me enough to post my little rant! The fans have to do their bit once they step into the Reebok on match day, otherwise, what's the point?
Errrm the way we've been playing at times we'd be losing in an empty stadium. It's complete cobblers and a nice little get out for under performing players and managers to blame the crowd, when you are at work do you need the tea lady's and everyone else cheering you on to perform? thought not! :mrgreen:

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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Hoboh » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:23 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:I was always a supporter of Coyle because I like him and I don't think he's as bad as his record suggests, but he wasn't going to get us promoted. Freedman might not do either but I think getting rid of Coyle was a necessary step.
That has to be the most amazing thing I've ever read!!! Stalin was nice family man too was he?

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Post by Leyther_Matt » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:35 am

Hodori wrote:How did Lee play?
Drifted in and out. I thought he was probably our most lively player in the first half as he was at least trying to find some space instead of being stood waiting for the ball but that probably says more about the rest of the side.

I thought it a little harsh that he was the one brought off for Petrov but again that's only because he wasn't playing any worse than Eagles rather than being a stand out performer.
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Post by boltonboris » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:03 am

Lee created a bit of space on the flanks as did Eagles on the other side. He was quiet though and was helped out by a top class performance by Mears (who was my man of the match, not for the first time).

Our fullbacks got forward more than usual today and there was more fluency with overlaps and the wingers cutting in to create the room for Warnock and Mears. That helped us control the game and the possession and despite not many fireworks, we looked a much better side for it. I'd stick with that defence and midfield for as long as possible.
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Wandering Willy » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:11 am

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See - this is where we differ. Now you would know better than me, but i would be surprised if Ngog has 3 consecutive starts with us. I would like to see him with a decent run of starts in the first team before I write him off. Let's face it, it can't be worse than what we have upfront now.
He did 15 consecutive starts for us last season from 20 Dec to 7 April, Davo's longest run of starts was 6. He made more starts than Davo last season & was on the pitch longer than Davo last season, by about 4 games worth. He scored 3 and set up 6. Davo scored 6 and set up 2.

Maybe not much worse, but not a shitload better either. For all the stick our geriatric Skipper is getting, you'd think they were worlds apart - I'm just not seeing that. :-)
And surprised I am. :) Must've blanked out last season from my memory.

Worth noting that we got 20 of our 36 points in that 15 game run.

Anyway, I'd still like to see NGog get a decent run under this new set up as the lone striker. As CAPS points out above we'd be lucky to find/afford anyone who could finish like NGog finished those 2 yesterday.
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:12 am

Leyther_Matt wrote:
Hodori wrote:How did Lee play?
Drifted in and out. I thought he was probably our most lively player in the first half as he was at least trying to find some space instead of being stood waiting for the ball but that probably says more about the rest of the side.

I thought it a little harsh that he was the one brought off for Petrov but again that's only because he wasn't playing any worse than Eagles rather than being a stand out performer.
Yep. One of the issues yesterday was that the "keep-ball" was not matched by "those not with the ball should move about a bit & make themselves available".

Lee did try to do that.

I suspect Eagles stayed on as he has a record of giving that special moment even when having one of his less influntial days.
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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:48 am

Wandering Willy wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:
See - this is where we differ. Now you would know better than me, but i would be surprised if Ngog has 3 consecutive starts with us. I would like to see him with a decent run of starts in the first team before I write him off. Let's face it, it can't be worse than what we have upfront now.
He did 15 consecutive starts for us last season from 20 Dec to 7 April, Davo's longest run of starts was 6. He made more starts than Davo last season & was on the pitch longer than Davo last season, by about 4 games worth. He scored 3 and set up 6. Davo scored 6 and set up 2.

Maybe not much worse, but not a shitload better either. For all the stick our geriatric Skipper is getting, you'd think they were worlds apart - I'm just not seeing that. :-)
And surprised I am. :) Must've blanked out last season from my memory.

Worth noting that we got 20 of our 36 points in that 15 game run.

Anyway, I'd still like to see NGog get a decent run under this new set up as the lone striker. As CAPS points out above we'd be lucky to find/afford anyone who could finish like NGog finished those 2 yesterday.
We did get 20 of our 36 points in that 15 game run

Half of them were against Wolves and Blackburn - who also got relegated.

He took his two well yesterday - and the two (including the disallowed one against Cardiff). As I pointed out to CAPS, I don't care how he finishes them - rather how many times he finishes them - he probably finished them better than Charlie Austin can finish them too. But Charlie Austin has 22 goals - and we need them to win matches.

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Re: Wanderers v Charlton

Post by Toni_DelijeSever » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:51 am

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