Peterborough away

[BL3]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

[Prufrock]

And you thought Owen Coyle wasn't shit.

Anyway, two (admittedly very well-taken) goals against Charlton do not a four-million pound striker make.

[thebish]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

just for the record, though BL3 - so it's written down - do YOU think we'll make the playoffs this season under Freedman?

[BWFC_Insane]

Bottom line is that we are 16th in the championship with probably very little money to spend. We aren't going to attract a top level proven manager. So we have to take someone young and up and coming. We did that with Freedman. Let's give him the proper time to sort things with his own players. Then we can hang him if it's no good. Doing anything else is pure madness.

Jimmy Phillips is 'young and up and coming'. We appointed Freedman because of his experience in the Championship, with a view to 'getting back on track'. He's consistently said that the players he inherited are good enough. So why is he making such hard work of it?

Perhaps he's still getting to know the players, perhaps he's trying to build their confidence up by not slagging them off in public? Perhaps he genuinely thinks we have great players but it's just not clicked yet.

Whilst we are on questions why were individual player mistakes never Coyles fault, you said that repeatedly after Hull, Leeds, Millwall, as examples but now Knight making a hash of it is Dougies fault? Ultimately it makes little sense as all these players were signed or offered deals by Owen, not Dougie......

Individual errors aren't always down to the manager but yesterday was a culmination of a series of mediocre performances since he took over, it wasn't just a bad day at the office.

If you want to talk about patterns, under Dougie we've lost 1 game out of 5 away so far.

Under Coyle this season we lost 5 out of 6 away games.

[BL3]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

just for the record, though BL3 - so it's written down - do YOU think we'll make the playoffs this season under Freedman?

Up until Saturday i thought there was still an outside chance. Not any more.

[89bwfc89]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

just for the record, though BL3 - so it's written down - do YOU think we'll make the playoffs this season under Freedman?

Up until Saturday i thought there was still an outside chance. Not any more.

How many times will this get bookmarked.

[DJBlu]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

just for the record, though BL3 - so it's written down - do YOU think we'll make the playoffs this season under Freedman?

Up until Saturday i thought there was still an outside chance. Not any more.

Are you just waiting for the opportunity to say "I told you so"?

Were you bullied as a child? Are you always right? If not do you look for excuses why you weren't?

What is the root cause for your hatred of the man who's had 10 games in charge? Did you lose a bet on the next manager, if so how much, we'll have a whip round.

Is it purely to get a reaction that gives small gratification in what is a meaningless life?

[plymouth wanderer]

Nope.

I suspect that will be news to Eddie Davies then.

For someone who loves to patronise, you can be a bit dense.

Of course promotion was and is the aim. Shockingly.

One thing that can't be denied about Coyle is that he certainly made it easier to get promoted.

Dougie's had ten games. For a manager to be being slagged off after ten games is a joke. I still think the play-offs are a possibilty, and if we fall considerably short of that then questions might start being asked.

Agreed

[BL3]

Bottom line is that we are 16th in the championship with probably very little money to spend. We aren't going to attract a top level proven manager. So we have to take someone young and up and coming. We did that with Freedman. Let's give him the proper time to sort things with his own players. Then we can hang him if it's no good. Doing anything else is pure madness.

Jimmy Phillips is 'young and up and coming'. We appointed Freedman because of his experience in the Championship, with a view to 'getting back on track'. He's consistently said that the players he inherited are good enough. So why is he making such hard work of it?

Perhaps he's still getting to know the players, perhaps he's trying to build their confidence up by not slagging them off in public? Perhaps he genuinely thinks we have great players but it's just not clicked yet.

Whilst we are on questions why were individual player mistakes never Coyles fault, you said that repeatedly after Hull, Leeds, Millwall, as examples but now Knight making a hash of it is Dougies fault? Ultimately it makes little sense as all these players were signed or offered deals by Owen, not Dougie......

Individual errors aren't always down to the manager but yesterday was a culmination of a series of mediocre performances since he took over, it wasn't just a bad day at the office.

If you want to talk about patterns, under Dougie we've lost 1 game out of 5 away so far.

Under Coyle this season we lost 5 out of 6 away games.

You're clutching at straws if you think that there's been any significant improvement. I'd start preparing your excuses for when his 'ppg' drops below Coyle's, because at the moment, it's all you've got left to cling to.

[BWFC_Insane]

Points per game being the only thing that matters of course. We let Coyle have a good 18 months of hovering around and below the 1 PPG mark. Dougie deserves the same chance, although funnily enough he's doing better than the manager you didn't want sacked. Go figure....

[BL3]

Points per game being the only thing that matters of course. We let Coyle have a good 18 months of hovering around and below the 1 PPG mark. Dougie deserves the same chance, although funnily enough he's doing better than the manager you didn't want sacked. Go figure....

You've been quoting Coyle's 'ppg' at every available opportunity. All of a sudden, now that Dougie's in danger of slipping below it, it's not the only thing that matters. He's had games against the likes of Barnsley, Ipswich and Peterborough to increase his average, but his return is barely any better than the last manager.

[Prufrock]

I still think the play-offs are a possibilty

You also thought that N'gog couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

just for the record, though BL3 - so it's written down - do YOU think we'll make the playoffs this season under Freedman?

Up until Saturday i thought there was still an outside chance. Not any more.

How many times will this get bookmarked.

Not for the prediction, but for the Christmas miracle of BL3 answering a direct question. You can't say he never does

[BWFC_Insane]

Points per game being the only thing that matters of course. We let Coyle have a good 18 months of hovering around and below the 1 PPG mark. Dougie deserves the same chance, although funnily enough he's doing better than the manager you didn't want sacked. Go figure....

You've been quoting Coyle's 'ppg' at every available opportunity. All of a sudden, now that Dougie's in danger of slipping below it, it's not the only thing that matters. He's had games against the likes of Barnsley, Ipswich and Peterborough to increase his average, but his return is barely any better than the last manager.

Try reading what I said. PPG is all that matters. And Dougies is better than the manager you didn't want sacked. So I can only presume you are happy for him to carry on.......unless of course you have double standards.....

[Prufrock]

Points per game being the only thing that matters of course. We let Coyle have a good 18 months of hovering around and below the 1 PPG mark. Dougie deserves the same chance, although funnily enough he's doing better than the manager you didn't want sacked. Go figure....

PPG is not the only thing that matters. Final league position is the only thing that matters (plus any play-off results). PPG is clearly a very, very strong indicator of where any likely final league placing will be. Dougie's is demonstrably better than Coyle's but still not good enough. Of course, he has only had ten games and took over a club on a downward spiral. I'd say we've stopped getting worse, but we need to get much, much better. That won't happen overnight, if it happens at all!

[BWFC_Insane]

Points per game being the only thing that matters of course. We let Coyle have a good 18 months of hovering around and below the 1 PPG mark. Dougie deserves the same chance, although funnily enough he's doing better than the manager you didn't want sacked. Go figure....

PPG is not the only thing that matters. Final league position is the only thing that matters (plus any play-off results). PPG is clearly a very, very strong indicator of where any likely final league placing will be. Dougie's is demonstrably better than Coyle's but still not good enough. Of course, he has only had ten games and took over a club on a downward spiral. I'd say we've stopped getting worse, but we need to get much, much better. That won't happen overnight, if it happens at all!

Well yes but individually you can only really judge a manager on PPG as they can't do a lot about other teams relative performances.

As for the rest as you know, I fully agree!

[SmokinFrazier]

And Dougies is better than the manager you didn't want sacked.

Based on what? Avoiding relegation and beating United in the cup?

I don't dislike Freedman but this is a baseless assumption. Coyle has achieved far more than Freedman has.

[BL3]

unless of course you have double standards.....

Priceless.

[DJBlu]

Can someone tell me how you ignore posts on here.

[DJBlu]

And Dougies is better than the manager you didn't want sacked.

Based on what? Avoiding relegation and beating United in the cup?

I don't dislike Freedman but this is a baseless assumption. Coyle has achieved far more than Freedman has.

By getting us relegated and losing to Stoke in the cup?

[BL3]

And Dougies is better than the manager you didn't want sacked.

Based on what? Avoiding relegation and beating United in the cup?

I don't dislike Freedman but this is a baseless assumption. Coyle has achieved far more than Freedman has.

By getting us relegated and losing to Stoke in the cup?

You mean losing to Stoke after getting to our first F.A. Cup semi-final in 10 years? Or did you conveniently forget that bit?