Palace Game

[boltonboris]

Survival is the first box to tick. Blood some youth then.

I agree. Considering the last 2 managers haven't been able to get the best out of the players* we may aswell start from scratch in certain areas.



*Coyle & Freedman both got/are getting the best out of them, depending on the poster.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

[bobo the clown]

I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

... AND she's taking him to Magaluf with her !!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

... AND she's taking him to Magaluf with her !!

That was my very next question.
PS have we had a TW marriage?

[Gary the Enfield]

I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

... AND she's taking him to Magaluf with her !!

That was my very next question.
PS have we had a TW marriage?

Yes. TD and the Bish. Well, they argue like they're married anyway.

[mrkint]

that would make bwfc_i bish's bit on the side.

[BWFC_Insane]

that would make bwfc_i bish's bit on the side.

If you're taking the line of people thebish argues with on here, I'd suggest the bloke must be a serial adulterer.......

[IggyTheDawgster]

A quote from Zat(Shat) Knight in the BN regarding Palace and Zaha, And defending in general.

“It’s something we’ve been working on in training. When their winger gets the ball, we double up to make sure that if he does beat one, there is someone else behind to clean up.”

No wonder our defense is pitiful.

[boltonboris]

What's wrong with doubling up on threats? What do you think the job of Defensive Midfielders is at that point?

[IggyTheDawgster]

What's wrong with doubling up on threats? What do you think the job of Defensive Midfielders is at that point?

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Having to work on it, considering how many games these players have under their belts, Is the problem. They should know their job.

[boltonboris]

Even so.. You work on things and you keep getting better at it.

[BWFC_Insane]

We had a manager before who blatantly didn't work on these things. In fact the players said he didn't.

We saw the result of that.

[plymouth wanderer]

BN



DOUGIE Freedman is having to restrict Chung-Yong Lee’s appearances for Wanderers because the winger is still feeling the after-effects of his horrific double leg break.

The Whites boss disclosed the full facts of the Korean’s battle for fitness after the 0-0 draw against his former club Crystal Palace, nearly eight months after he was brought back into the first team fold by Owen Coyle.

Chung-Yong spent nearly a year on the sidelines after sustaining a terrible injury in a pre-season friendly against Newport County, but has started 16 games in league and cup this term, with another eight appearances from the bench.

But Freedman says the 24-year-old is still some way from being able to cope fully with the demands of Championship football.

“Chungy still feels his leg from time to time and I think he’s still got a few screws in there,” said the manager. “He can’t really keep going game after game after game.

“This is a secret I will share with the fans – and I hope this goes out there – that’s the reason he doesn’t play every week.

“We all know Chungy is a fantastic player and I’d love to play him every week, I’d love to see him on the training ground every day.

“But two games in a week just does not suit him right now because of these screws. It’s something we’ll just have to manage for now and that’s why he was rested on Tuesday night.”

Freedman resisted the chance to name Stuart Holden in his squad for Crystal Palace – possibly with the weather conditions in mind.

It is understood, however, that the American will be considered for this weekend’s FA Cup tie against Everton.

Marvin Sordell, whose two goals had helped set up the fourth round clash is another player who Freedman is reluctant to pitch in for two games in a week.

The young striker sat as an unused substitute at Selhurst Park, but the Wanderers boss is still encouraged by the progress he is making on the training ground.

“Marvin is still working his way back and we’ll have to be patient,” he said.

“If you want the honest truth – can Marvin play two games in a week? No.

“Marvin is not conditioned and hasn’t played two games in a week for a long time.

“I felt he could possibly have come on for us but the way the game panned out, it wasn’t to be. But Marvin Sordell is certainly getting there.”


Seems fair enough

[Always hopeful]

A quote from Zat(Shat) Knight in the BN regarding Palace and Zaha, And defending in general.

“It’s something we’ve been working on in training. When their winger gets the ball, we double up to make sure that if he does beat one, there is someone else behind to clean up.”
No wonder our defense is pitiful.

Absolutely incredible.

This is similar to forwards admitting that they've been working on trying to avoid the keeper when shooting, instead of kicking it straight at him, or a keeper working on using his feet to stop the ball, instead of just his hands.

[boltonboris]

We had a manager before who blatantly didn't work on these things. In fact the players said he didn't.

We saw the result of that.

Yet there were quotes to the contrary at the start of the season

[BWFC_Insane]

We had a manager before who blatantly didn't work on these things. In fact the players said he didn't.

We saw the result of that.

Yet there were quotes to the contrary at the start of the season

Put it this way, on that goals on Sunday thing, relatively early in Coyle's reign Ricketts and Davies said that 'we don't really work on shape or tactics or defending, its all touch stuff and pass and move'

I suspect that of course we did some work on defensive shape. But that it wasn't given the emphasis it should have been.

A bit like Keegan when he got a defensive coach in, and gave them the back four only for 20 minutes after training a few times a week. Yes they did something, but it wasn't a properly integrated method.

[Sponge]

BN



DOUGIE Freedman is having to restrict Chung-Yong Lee’s appearances for Wanderers because the winger is still feeling the after-effects of his horrific double leg break.

The Whites boss disclosed the full facts of the Korean’s battle for fitness after the 0-0 draw against his former club Crystal Palace, nearly eight months after he was brought back into the first team fold by Owen Coyle.

Chung-Yong spent nearly a year on the sidelines after sustaining a terrible injury in a pre-season friendly against Newport County, but has started 16 games in league and cup this term, with another eight appearances from the bench.

But Freedman says the 24-year-old is still some way from being able to cope fully with the demands of Championship football.

“Chungy still feels his leg from time to time and I think he’s still got a few screws in there,” said the manager. “He can’t really keep going game after game after game.

“This is a secret I will share with the fans – and I hope this goes out there – that’s the reason he doesn’t play every week.

“We all know Chungy is a fantastic player and I’d love to play him every week, I’d love to see him on the training ground every day.

“But two games in a week just does not suit him right now because of these screws. It’s something we’ll just have to manage for now and that’s why he was rested on Tuesday night.”

Freedman resisted the chance to name Stuart Holden in his squad for Crystal Palace – possibly with the weather conditions in mind.

It is understood, however, that the American will be considered for this weekend’s FA Cup tie against Everton.

Marvin Sordell, whose two goals had helped set up the fourth round clash is another player who Freedman is reluctant to pitch in for two games in a week.

The young striker sat as an unused substitute at Selhurst Park, but the Wanderers boss is still encouraged by the progress he is making on the training ground.

“Marvin is still working his way back and we’ll have to be patient,” he said.

“If you want the honest truth – can Marvin play two games in a week? No.

“Marvin is not conditioned and hasn’t played two games in a week for a long time.

“I felt he could possibly have come on for us but the way the game panned out, it wasn’t to be. But Marvin Sordell is certainly getting there.”


Seems fair enough

Hang on, you mean there's no conspiracy? You mean making decisions as a manager is more complicated than "he scored last week, chuck him on", and that Dougie Freedom isn't deliberately trying to undermine Marvin Sordell's confidence? It cannot be true.

[bobo the clown]

BN



DOUGIE Freedman is having to restrict Chung-Yong Lee’s appearances for Wanderers because the winger is still feeling the after-effects of his horrific double leg break.

The Whites boss disclosed the full facts of the Korean’s battle for fitness after the 0-0 draw against his former club Crystal Palace, nearly eight months after he was brought back into the first team fold by Owen Coyle.

Chung-Yong spent nearly a year on the sidelines after sustaining a terrible injury in a pre-season friendly against Newport County, but has started 16 games in league and cup this term, with another eight appearances from the bench.

But Freedman says the 24-year-old is still some way from being able to cope fully with the demands of Championship football.

“Chungy still feels his leg from time to time and I think he’s still got a few screws in there,” said the manager. “He can’t really keep going game after game after game.

“This is a secret I will share with the fans – and I hope this goes out there – that’s the reason he doesn’t play every week.

“We all know Chungy is a fantastic player and I’d love to play him every week, I’d love to see him on the training ground every day.

“But two games in a week just does not suit him right now because of these screws. It’s something we’ll just have to manage for now and that’s why he was rested on Tuesday night.”

Freedman resisted the chance to name Stuart Holden in his squad for Crystal Palace – possibly with the weather conditions in mind.

It is understood, however, that the American will be considered for this weekend’s FA Cup tie against Everton.

Marvin Sordell, whose two goals had helped set up the fourth round clash is another player who Freedman is reluctant to pitch in for two games in a week.

The young striker sat as an unused substitute at Selhurst Park, but the Wanderers boss is still encouraged by the progress he is making on the training ground.

“Marvin is still working his way back and we’ll have to be patient,” he said.

“If you want the honest truth – can Marvin play two games in a week? No.

“Marvin is not conditioned and hasn’t played two games in a week for a long time.

“I felt he could possibly have come on for us but the way the game panned out, it wasn’t to be. But Marvin Sordell is certainly getting there.”
Seems fair enough

Hang on, you mean there's no conspiracy? You mean making decisions as a manager is more complicated than "he scored last week, chuck him on", and that Dougie Freedom isn't deliberately trying to undermine Marvin Sordell's confidence? It cannot be true.

This is what I referring to on another post.

He makes apparently odd decisions, then if it doesn't come off, comes out with half-arsed 'explanations' as to why he did it.

The thrid element is when he then reverses said decision the following week, contradicting his own half-arsed explanation.

He's obviously getting frustrated to being questioned as well ; "“This is a secret I will share with the fans – and I hope this goes out there – that’s the reason he doesn’t play every week".

I have NO issue with CYL needing to be taken care of. I have NO issue with bringing Holden back in very small stages.

I'm less convinced that Sordell could possibly have becomethat unfit. Fckg hell, it's what... 10 OR 12 weeks since Coyle left. That's as long as any pre-season .... & it's not like he's not been training (or is it ???).

& even if not ready for 2 games in a week ... that doesn't explain him not even getting off the bench.

But, Dougie, try explaining BEFORE the decision leads to you being questioned .... or make sure the result from it is a good one & few will be questioning you sunshine.

[mrkint]

I think everyone needs a nice cup of tea to calm down.

[Athers]

Was listening to Football Weekly podcast a couple weeks ago where Max Rushden, who actually seems OK on that, talked about his day training at Bolton.

Sturridge was a total class apart he said, and he told Rushden that he thought training was brilliant at Bolton as all they did every day was 7-a-sides, which at Chelsea they'd get chance to do that 'fun stuff' once every two weeks...