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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by enrdentw » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:03 pm

I thought for the first 15mins we were headless chickens and we showed them too much respect giving them too much time on the ball in our half, but after that it was very much a 50/50 end to end game and the draw would have been the fair result.

The only negatives to take away from that game today was that CYL and Alonso have put themselves in the shop window for a late January bid. They oozed class today - they were a joy to watch!

Sordell must start against Watford. He's a goal scorer and will get goals in a team that has supply from Alonso, Eagles and CYL.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:06 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Leyther_Matt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:09 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:11 pm

Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Beefheart » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:15 pm

Real Madrid might be wanting Alonso back after that performance! Well maybe not, but definitely his best performance in what has been a consistent run. Was impressed with what I saw, I only got into the stadium to see Everton score after being stuck a train that wasn't moving and was then further delayed because some Everton fans decided they'd had enough of waiting and then decided they were going to force open the doors and walk the rest of the way, so we may have been crap for the first 20 minutes but I missed that.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by enrdentw » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:21 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Utter bell ends...
I went to Uni in Liverpool for 4yrs and I remember on the train on the way there when I was talking to an old scouse bloke and he said to me "scousers are the best people in world once you get to know them...". Eight years on I still think they (the majority) are a set of vindictive, self-pitying, cowardly, intimidating horrible feckers in this country.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:35 pm

Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Was that in Lofthouse Lower, Southish End? Cos it kicked off on the stairs right after their second right in front us us there. There were maybe half dozen Bolton fans storming down the steps after a smug faced Everton cnt. I hope they gave him good before the stewards broke it up, the wanker.

Really enjoyed todays game again. These last two home games in the cup have been the best games I've seen all season.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:37 pm

enrdentw wrote: I went to Uni in Liverpool for 4yrs and I remember on the train on the way there when I was talking to an old scouse bloke and he said to me "scousers are the best people in world once you get to know them...". Eight years on I still think they (the majority) are a set of vindictive, self-pitying, cowardly, intimidating horrible feckers in this country.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Always hopeful » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:43 pm

enrdentw wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Utter bell ends...
I went to Uni in Liverpool for 4yrs and I remember on the train on the way there when I was talking to an old scouse bloke and he said to me "scousers are the best people in world once you get to know them...". Eight years on I still think they (the majority) are a set of vindictive, self-pitying, cowardly, intimidating horrible feckers in this country.
There's a shy and retiring member on here (who sports a red nose), who I'm pretty sure agrees with this point of view.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by William the White » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:17 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Those who say 'what progress' only needed to turn up today and watch.

Superb performance against what, 5th best team in the land? Certainly top 8.

We deserved more than we got.

Vela, Alonso, Lee and Sordell all excellent. Sordell noticeably tired late on.

Eagles needs dropping though, he was awful.

We are getting there. A rugged no nonsense centre half and we may have won today. Was clear how we struggled when Felaini went up top. Couldn't handle his physicality for the last few minutes.

Today we had shape. A system. A pattern of play. We passed it kept it, moved and played.

Excellent.

But there is also the fact that Everton gave us more time on the ball to do all that than say Millwall did.

We need to translate that performance into the hustle and bustle of the championship, where teams come specifically to stop us playing.
Excellent and accurate summary...

Alonso MotM for me... Play this team against Watford...

Pleased that Ream is starting to look the business... Chungy getting there very nicely - though tired badly in last 20 mins... How good to see Holden come on, and to great applause... Vela looks like the real thing - our midfield was tremendous today... also nearly right on Eagles, who has been out of sorts for several weeks, but was slightly better today than recently...

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:22 pm

Having a nightmare trying to get anywhere on a train tonight but the game was great. Alonso looked like a big unit you wouldn't want to mess with and put himself about a bit. Whole team did well but shouts out to Ream and Pratley because they did ok. First time I'd seen Sordell, and first proper game I'd seen of Vela... both have a lot of potential from this viewing. Skuffle on east lower... handful of kids celebrated after winner so it looked like people wanted them out. Good game, shame about result and trains.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by William the White » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:23 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Was that in Lofthouse Lower, Southish End? Cos it kicked off on the stairs right after their second right in front us us there. There were maybe half dozen Bolton fans storming down the steps after a smug faced Everton cnt. I hope they gave him good before the stewards broke it up, the wanker.

Really enjoyed todays game again. These last two home games in the cup have been the best games I've seen all season.
Shame on you, and anyone else advocating violence at a football match - the behaviour that nearly destroyed the game 20 years ago...

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Leyther_Matt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:27 pm

William the White wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Was that in Lofthouse Lower, Southish End? Cos it kicked off on the stairs right after their second right in front us us there. There were maybe half dozen Bolton fans storming down the steps after a smug faced Everton cnt. I hope they gave him good before the stewards broke it up, the wanker.

Really enjoyed todays game again. These last two home games in the cup have been the best games I've seen all season.
Shame on you, and anyone else advocating violence at a football match - the behaviour that nearly destroyed the game 20 years ago...
Would normally agree with you, but I'm sure dozens of BWFC fans ballooning about on the Gladys St End wouldn't go down too well either.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by William the White » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:36 pm

Leyther_Matt wrote: Would normally agree with you, but I'm sure dozens of BWFC fans ballooning about on the Gladys St End wouldn't go down too well either.
I'm sure you are right. But it doesn't justify violence.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:01 pm

Always hopeful wrote:
enrdentw wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
I went to Uni in Liverpool for 4yrs and I remember on the train on the way there when I was talking to an old scouse bloke and he said to me "scousers are the best people in world once you get to know them...". Eight years on I still think they (the majority) are a set of vindictive, self-pitying, cowardly, intimidating horrible feckers in this country.
There's a shy and retiring member on here (who sports a red nose), who I'm pretty sure agrees with this point of view.
I must try to look him up.

Meanwhile, let me add that there ARE a few decent Scousers.

Just too few to make thinking anything positive about that God-forsaken hell-hole & it's mawkish bastard population.

Totally convinced that the World owes them a living, never follow any rule of any kind, excuse-laden, self-pitying, sub-employment fodder and sources of their own downfalls.

Never, ever give that city an even break as it'll spit in your eye as soon as you finish.

nice people, b'stards, theives, wasters & vagabonds.

Later I will get off the fence about them.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:22 pm

William the White wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote: On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
We were in the west upper. Clearly something happened further along after they scored the second but I couldn't see what it was. Could any of you see it? What as going on?
Posts on WWays suggest that a Scouser pushed a Bolton fan down the steps on to the concourse.
Was that in Lofthouse Lower, Southish End? Cos it kicked off on the stairs right after their second right in front us us there. There were maybe half dozen Bolton fans storming down the steps after a smug faced Everton cnt. I hope they gave him good before the stewards broke it up, the wanker.

Really enjoyed todays game again. These last two home games in the cup have been the best games I've seen all season.
Shame on you, and anyone else advocating violence at a football match - the behaviour that nearly destroyed the game 20 years ago...
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Those who say 'what progress' only needed to turn up today and watch.

Superb performance against what, 5th best team in the land? Certainly top 8.

We deserved more than we got.

Vela, Alonso, Lee and Sordell all excellent. Sordell noticeably tired late on.

Eagles needs dropping though, he was awful.

We are getting there. A rugged no nonsense centre half and we may have won today. Was clear how we struggled when Felaini went up top. Couldn't handle his physicality for the last few minutes.

Today we had shape. A system. A pattern of play. We passed it kept it, moved and played.

Excellent.

But there is also the fact that Everton gave us more time on the ball to do all that than say Millwall did.

We need to translate that performance into the hustle and bustle of the championship, where teams come specifically to stop us playing.


so.... now... the entire squad ISN'T utterly shoite and uncoachable and they shouldn't all be binned off?? I can't keep up! :wink:

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:20 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Those who say 'what progress' only needed to turn up today and watch.

Superb performance against what, 5th best team in the land? Certainly top 8.

We deserved more than we got.

Vela, Alonso, Lee and Sordell all excellent. Sordell noticeably tired late on.

Eagles needs dropping though, he was awful.

We are getting there. A rugged no nonsense centre half and we may have won today. Was clear how we struggled when Felaini went up top. Couldn't handle his physicality for the last few minutes.

Today we had shape. A system. A pattern of play. We passed it kept it, moved and played.

Excellent.

But there is also the fact that Everton gave us more time on the ball to do all that than say Millwall did.

We need to translate that performance into the hustle and bustle of the championship, where teams come specifically to stop us playing.


so.... now... the entire squad ISN'T utterly shoite and uncoachable and they shouldn't all be binned off?? I can't keep up! :wink:
It's not that simple though and you know it. Can they translate that into games they are 'expected' to win. Today was kind of a freebie. Go out and play.

But Freedman has clearly put a structure and organisation in that is helping. It's blatantly obvious.

We still need better players in some areas, or perhaps, different types of players rather than better ones.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:28 am

Great game, best I've seen them play in a while, Alonso was exceptional, shame he's going. Still think he would be better use as the left sided player instead of Eagles. Ream, Spearing and Vela all had good games for me and Sordell's movement for not only his goal but in general was fantastic
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