Worthy's better class of transfer thread

[Sponge]

We are definitely building for next season. Signing players around the 20/21 year old mark, who may be near first team football stage and will develop.

...and you know this how?

It's reasonable to assume that players of that age will get better. The question is will they improve enough to reach the required standard to get into the first team.

No it isn't. There are no guarantees.

Wouldn't it be easier to sign players who are ready to go into the first team, since Dougie appears to have given up with the ones he inherited?

There are no guarantees, but it is a reasonable assumption.

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

And to think – Coyle spunked millions on players who weren't ready for the first team...

[BL3]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

[jaffka]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

A bit like what has always happened when other clubs are interested in our players

[jonnycooper]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing [SEASON) [. There are a couple of days to make it better.

There corrected it.

[Sponge]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

What the feck are you on about?

[BWFC_Insane]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

We make a big profit on them and the club stays afloat financially?

It hasn't exactly gone well paying the likes of Knight, KD, Eagles et al. a vast fortune (comparatively for this division) has it? Under two different managers we have never looked likely to mount a promotion campaign with those players.

So what do you suggest we do as a club?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing [SEASON) [. There are a couple of days to make it better.

There corrected it.

Well thanks for that. But, as I was referring to the transfer window, you've bolloxed it up rather than correcting it.

[BL3]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

We make a big profit on them and the club stays afloat financially?

It hasn't exactly gone well paying the likes of Knight, KD, Eagles et al. a vast fortune (comparatively for this division) has it? Under two different managers we have never looked likely to mount a promotion campaign with those players.

So what do you suggest we do as a club?

...whilst the club stays in the Championship, gates continue to dwindle and the parachute payments dry up. Presumably that's why the stated aim was to get back at the first attempt. Given that Dougie has failed to get us 'back on track' and we now have to start offloading players in preparation for another season in the Championship, i'd have thought we would be in the market for players who might get us back up at the second attempt.

[ChrisC]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

We make a big profit on them and the club stays afloat financially?

It hasn't exactly gone well paying the likes of Knight, KD, Eagles et al. a vast fortune (comparatively for this division) has it? Under two different managers we have never looked likely to mount a promotion campaign with those players.

So what do you suggest we do as a club?

[BWFC_Insane]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing January. There are a couple of days to make it better.

What did you expect? We haven't got any money, and given where we are in the table, I don't think anyone would expect Eddie to gamble on going up.

We're having to sign "potential" and also players that can fill specific jobs. The day of blowing a few million here and a few million there are gone until we secure that premiership money again.

We are paying far too much for a squad that, lets make no bones about this, has underperformed for 2 and a bit years, relative to the salaries we've been paying out.

Our wage bill last season was £55M. We can hardly say that was value for money considering it dwarfed the wage bills of teams like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom and the like.

[thebish]

And yes, it would be easier to sign players who are ready to go straight into the first team. But funnily enough those kinds of players are not so readily available – especially not for the kind of money Dougie will have to play with.

So Dougie is assembling a team for a promotion push in a few years time? What happens if a Premier League club decides to cherry pick our better players in the meantime? We just start the whole process all over again?

We make a big profit on them and the club stays afloat financially?

It hasn't exactly gone well paying the likes of Knight, KD, Eagles et al. a vast fortune (comparatively for this division) has it? Under two different managers we have never looked likely to mount a promotion campaign with those players.

So what do you suggest we do as a club?

...whilst the club stays in the Championship, gates continue to dwindle and the parachute payments dry up. Presumably that's why the stated aim was to get back at the first attempt. Given that Dougie has failed to get us 'back on track' and we now have to start offloading players in preparation for another season in the Championship, i'd have thought we would be in the market for players who might get us back up at the second attempt.

and who's to say these aren't them? you are short of suggestions yourself, I notice...

[BL3]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing January. There are a couple of days to make it better.

What did you expect? We haven't got any money, and given where we are in the table, I don't think anyone would expect Eddie to gamble on going up.

We're having to sign "potential" and also players that can fill specific jobs. The day of blowing a few million here and a few million there are gone until we secure that premiership money again.

We are paying far too much for a squad that, lets make no bones about this, has underperformed for 2 and a bit years, relative to the salaries we've been paying out.

Our wage bill last season was £55M. We can hardly say that was value for money considering it dwarfed the wage bills of teams like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom and the like.

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

[BWFC_Insane]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing January. There are a couple of days to make it better.

What did you expect? We haven't got any money, and given where we are in the table, I don't think anyone would expect Eddie to gamble on going up.

We're having to sign "potential" and also players that can fill specific jobs. The day of blowing a few million here and a few million there are gone until we secure that premiership money again.

We are paying far too much for a squad that, lets make no bones about this, has underperformed for 2 and a bit years, relative to the salaries we've been paying out.

Our wage bill last season was £55M. We can hardly say that was value for money considering it dwarfed the wage bills of teams like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom and the like.

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

Are they? They're the players that have got us here. So ultimately thats the bottom line.

They may have more experience and be "bigger names". But as pointed out, there is a lot more to it than that.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing January. There are a couple of days to make it better.

What did you expect? We haven't got any money, and given where we are in the table, I don't think anyone would expect Eddie to gamble on going up.

We're having to sign "potential" and also players that can fill specific jobs. The day of blowing a few million here and a few million there are gone until we secure that premiership money again.

We are paying far too much for a squad that, lets make no bones about this, has underperformed for 2 and a bit years, relative to the salaries we've been paying out.

Our wage bill last season was £55M. We can hardly say that was value for money considering it dwarfed the wage bills of teams like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom and the like.

A bit more substance than I've been given. More sales and more buys at the very least!

[thebish]

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

on what basis are you making that judgement?

[BL3]

I was given the impression that Dougie was some kind of knowledgeable wunderkind when it came to scouting out young upcoming talent. And given how 'everybody' is now in gestalt agreement that the whole Coylite squad was ubershite I think I'm on safe territory in saying: what a very disappointing January. There are a couple of days to make it better.

What did you expect? We haven't got any money, and given where we are in the table, I don't think anyone would expect Eddie to gamble on going up.

We're having to sign "potential" and also players that can fill specific jobs. The day of blowing a few million here and a few million there are gone until we secure that premiership money again.

We are paying far too much for a squad that, lets make no bones about this, has underperformed for 2 and a bit years, relative to the salaries we've been paying out.

Our wage bill last season was £55M. We can hardly say that was value for money considering it dwarfed the wage bills of teams like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom and the like.

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

Are they? They're the players that have got us here. So ultimately thats the bottom line.

They may have more experience and be "bigger names". But as pointed out, there is a lot more to it than that.

Nothing to do with the manager then? Because on another thread he's being given credit for transforming Alonso into a world beater.

[thebish]

A bit more substance than I've been given. More sales and more buys at the very least!

I was kinda expecting a couple more sales - perhaps to enable us to buy - I think all this talk of weeding out players that don't want to be here (that Dougie has hinted at a few times in different ways) has reasonably led to the expectation that a couple of older, higher earning players might be shifted on for a fee to free up room to buy someone..

but - couple of days to go yet...

also - you can't sell someone if nobody wants him!

[boltonboris]

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

on what basis are you making that judgement?

Dougie said so.. He said he's not after players better than the current ones, remember?

[thebish]

Nothing to do with the manager then?

oh yes - you're right - quite a bit to do with the manager - the one that bought them and managed us into the Championship... now - what was his name... errr... did it start with a C? it's on the tip of my tongue...

[thebish]

To work with the players we've got, since they're better than the players he's bringing in.

on what basis are you making that judgement?

Dougie said so.. He said he's not after players better than the current ones, remember?

that doesn't rule out the possibility that they are of the same ability. so - that does not mean the current ones are better than the ones he is bringing in.

either way - how do we know? none of the feckers has had a chance to even pull on his shorts yet!