Today I'm neither Angry nor Happy about....

[Lost Leopard Spot]

We had a Dutch colleague with us this week and I had to stop my self from laughing when he said "we have a phrase in Holland that says 'sitting on your blisters'". His stereotypical pronunciation of "sitting" made it.

I can picture Martin Jol saying it now

[bobo the clown]

We had a Dutch colleague with us this week and I had to stop my self from laughing when he said "we have a phrase in Holland that says 'sitting on your blisters'". His stereotypical pronunciation of "sitting" made it.

I can picture Martin Jol saying it now

Or Schteve McLaren

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Right. I'm having to ditch transfer deadlineday and do some work for a bit. I've got another teleconference with Knobhead, Head Office, and the Chinese - hope it goes better than last time...

[Gary the Enfield]

Right. I'm having to ditch transfer deadlineday and do some work for a bit. I've got another teleconference with Knobhead, Head Office, and the Chinese - hope it goes better than last time...

It'll be fine. Don't picture the Chinaman looking like this and you'll be fine.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Right. I'm having to ditch transfer deadlineday and do some work for a bit. I've got another teleconference with Knobhead, Head Office, and the Chinese - hope it goes better than last time...

It'll be fine. Don't picture the Chinaman looking like this and you'll be fine.

Yeh it went ok-ish. Knobhead didn't come up with any more embarrassment and I managed to remove any 'rittle' niggly thoughts from my head for half an hour, although I was very close to saying "ah so" at one point.

[Gary the Enfield]

Right. I'm having to ditch transfer deadlineday and do some work for a bit. I've got another teleconference with Knobhead, Head Office, and the Chinese - hope it goes better than last time...

It'll be fine. Don't picture the Chinaman looking like this and you'll be fine.

Yeh it went ok-ish. Knobhead didn't come up with any more embarrassment and I managed to remove any 'rittle' niggly thoughts from my head for half an hour, although I was very close to saying "ah so" at one point.

Has he defined a Digger Scoop in terms of volume or mass, yet?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Right. I'm having to ditch transfer deadlineday and do some work for a bit. I've got another teleconference with Knobhead, Head Office, and the Chinese - hope it goes better than last time...

It'll be fine. Don't picture the Chinaman looking like this and you'll be fine.

Yeh it went ok-ish. Knobhead didn't come up with any more embarrassment and I managed to remove any 'rittle' niggly thoughts from my head for half an hour, although I was very close to saying "ah so" at one point.

Has he defined a Digger Scoop in terms of volume or mass, yet?

It would appear that he believes a digger scoop to be 250kg worth of soil and rock as his revised Appendix A states the 'volume' of removed material will come to (estimated) 10,000 metric tonnes. Although frankly how he came up with that figure is anybody's guess because no figures were given apart from the final 'volume' in the appendix. Mr HongKong was happy enough with 10,000 tonnes as he can now cost transport removal and landfill - so everyone's a winner (that is until it turns out to be a vast underestimation and we get hit with a wild variation, but that's not my problem Thank God!).

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

[Montreal Wanderer]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

I honestly don't know which is heavier imperial or metric, but I shall utilise my mathematical genius and google it...
1 metric tonne = 1.10231131 short tons

One tonne is equivalent to:

One megagram (by definition);
megagram, Mg, is the official SI term, but rarely used; Mg could be mistaken to be mg, milligram
1000⁄0.453 592 37 pounds (exactly, by definition of the pound),[15]
approximately 2,205 lb
98.42% of a long ton
One long ton (2,240 lb) is 101.605% of a tonne
110.23% of a short ton
One short ton (2,000 lb) is 90.72% of a tonne

[Gary the Enfield]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

Divide by 1.016 so 1 tonne is 0.98 imperial (I think)

[thebish]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

[Montreal Wanderer]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

Gosh, Guys - I was just giving him a hard time given his mathematical abilities in calculating a fifth of 10,000. I don't really want to know the number of any kind of tons in a scoop. Over here (sorry, Here) we have long tons (Imperial), short tons (American, which is 2,000 lbs) and metric tons.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

Gosh, Guys - I was just giving him a hard time given his mathematical abilities in calculating a fifth of 10,000. I don't really want to know the number of any kind of tons in a scoop. Over here (sorry, Here) we have long tons (Imperial), short tons (American, which is 2,000 lbs) and metric tons.

Now look here, I didn't invent a 'scoop'. The fact I'm trying to work out how much one is in real world measurements is waaaaaay beyond the call of duty

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

Gosh, Guys - I was just giving him a hard time given his mathematical abilities in calculating a fifth of 10,000. I don't really want to know the number of any kind of tons in a scoop. Over here (sorry, Here) we have long tons (Imperial), short tons (American, which is 2,000 lbs) and metric tons.

Now look here, I didn't invent a 'scoop'. The fact I'm trying to work out how much one is in real world measurements is waaaaaay beyond the call of duty

Isn't there an app for that though? I bet it would intuitive

[thebish]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

Gosh, Guys - I was just giving him a hard time given his mathematical abilities in calculating a fifth of 10,000. I don't really want to know the number of any kind of tons in a scoop. Over here (sorry, Here) we have long tons (Imperial), short tons (American, which is 2,000 lbs) and metric tons.

I know - which is why I said "in the UK". Here, a ton is imperial (=2,240lb) and a tonne is metric (=1000kg).

[Montreal Wanderer]

Hang about, I've flunked the maths. 50,000 scoops = 10,000t therefore 1t=5 scoops therefore 1000kg/5=200kg (my apologies).

How many imperial tons is that?

in the UK - no need for the "imperial" qualifier there....

Gosh, Guys - I was just giving him a hard time given his mathematical abilities in calculating a fifth of 10,000. I don't really want to know the number of any kind of tons in a scoop. Over here (sorry, Here) we have long tons (Imperial), short tons (American, which is 2,000 lbs) and metric tons.

I know - which is why I said "in the UK". Here, a ton is imperial (=2,240lb) and a tonne is metric (=1000kg).

Yes, I too knew that.

[thebish]

Yes, I too knew that.

good! so - in the UK - no need to add "imperial" to ton - it is already there in the word!

[Montreal Wanderer]

Yes, I too knew that.

good! so - in the UK - no need to add "imperial" to ton - it is already there in the word!

Right, but I'm not in the UK and, since Spotless was dealing with Hong Kong, it is good to clarify the international variants I would have thought. I will not attempt any further legpulling (at least today) as it gets too complicated.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Yes, I too knew that.

good! so - in the UK - no need to add "imperial" to ton - it is already there in the word!

Right, but I'm not in the UK and, since Spotless was dealing with Hong Kong, it is good to clarify the international variants I would have thought. I will not attempt any further legpulling (at least today) as it gets too complicated.

Maybe that's why Knob used 'scoops' in the first place - to cut down on the international confusion. Here I am, taking the piss, but he probably deserves some kind of International Simple Communication Award. I shall honour him in future with the epithet 'Knobs (accredited Simpleton)'.