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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:39 pm

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thebish wrote:that's not the same subject - that's "doubting" Thomas! The other is the Emmaus Road...
Dear, dear Bish, how you love to split hairs. Both happened on the same day and the subject of Caravaggios paintings was Jesus appearing to his disiples after his ressurection. Not a bible in the world would dispute that.
:conf: a painting of the Emmaus Road meal is not the same subject as the appearance to "doubting" thomas in the locked room... they are different subjects!! :conf:

(also - not sure why you say they were on the same day... the Emmaus story is in Mark and Luke, the doubting Thomas story is in John's gospel.)
Yes, I know, I checked. Jesus appeared to the rest of them the same day, but Thomas wasn't there first time and Jesus appeared again a week later and proved himself to Thomas.
My point was the change in Jesus at the time of his revelation (8 days in all), as both shown by the artist.
Do you think that the artist might have built-in a level of decomposition? I know that we break down into gasses which cause dead bodies to swell, but I'm not sure how long the process takes to start.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:04 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Same artist, same subject, vastly different Jesus.
He just used a different model. :conf:
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:57 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Same artist, same subject, vastly different Jesus.
He just used a different model. :conf:
Yes, I noticed.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:44 pm

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William the White wrote:Portillo on Picasso at 10.00 on ITV.

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Before that ep 2 of The Village.
Thanks for the heads up, Will - I will watch tomorrow.
I think you'll enjoy. I certainly did.
Yes, it was an enjoyable programme.

Portillo did well with a subject that isn't really a passion - in every programme on opera or naval history or train travel I have seen him make, not once do I remember his uttering a word of enthusiasm for painting before. Even against this background, it was quite amazing to learn that he had never seen the Guernica painting before, given the significance of that episode in Spanish history in his own family story.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mrkint » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:00 am

Making my way through that The Power of Art series. Amazing how much a bit of background detail can make a painting conjure up so much emotion. Such as The Death of Marat. Beautiful, tragic, anger, and all full of lies.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:02 pm

We've got new art prints that have been put up at work. I don't mind the Kandinsky, or the Dali. The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity, but the one really pissing me off (and it's only been up half a day) is the Klee. 1919 two dromedaries and a donkey

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:57 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
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Post by mrkint » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:06 pm

I've got a poster of a Klee in my room :(

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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:39 pm

Some strange folk in the world of art.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:09 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
I'm not at work PB so I'll gather the titles tomorrow, but the Magritte is the one with umbrella and apple face.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:47 am

And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:06 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!

I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything! :|
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:35 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!

I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything! :|
I had plenty to do Brucie, the problem was it weren't necessary to engage brain to do itu
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!

I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything! :|
I had plenty to do Brucie, the problem was it weren't necessary to engage brain to do itu
Ahh, that'll be why you were putting too much thought into my connection then. ;)
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:10 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:12 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
AKA Crazy Horse...

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:17 am

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
AKA Crazy Horse...

It's not how I imagine him somehow... in fact almost the very antithesis of the image I have of CrazyHorse...

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:34 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
Which ones?
the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
AKA Crazy Horse...

It's not how I imagine him somehow... in fact almost the very antithesis of the image I have of CrazyHorse...

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does this help?

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:38 am

Yup.

But he still needs to lose the beard, and have bigger bones.

Being a Sioux warrior would help too.
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