Leicester away

[Lost Leopard Spot]

That John Dreyer was crap as well

We don't have to go that far back, there was that bloke in January, I can't even remember his name.

[BWFC_Insane]

Just seen the goals. Leicester's first looked a penalty, poor challenge from Butterfield.

Second was poor from both centre halves. Dawson got caught under the ball, Knight missed the tackle. That meant Butterfield had to come across to block off the Leicester striker on the ball. Vela got caught out trying to cover Dyer. Absolutely no fault on Butterfield for that goal.

Third goal - Knight and Dawson go for the same clearing header, it's a poor clearance and then fecking Eagles doesn't close Schlupp down but rather turns his back and jumps.

They are really poor goals to conceded. 2 and 3 at least. The second goal is full of individual errors from Knight, Dawson and Vela.

The third is again a catalogue of mistakes.

Thats where we let ourselves down.

Only players capable of concentrating will rectify this stuff for next season.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Feck! Set off to kayaking at 1-0, get here and we're losing 2 fecking 1

lost at sea.

[LeverEnd]

Gutted about Ngog, he was excellent last night, though I wasn't too happy when he stepped up for the pen. Fair play to him though.
Butterfield was genuinely awful, and stood out a mile because no-one else was. 2nd half was great to watch and I stood and applauded until every Wanderer had left the pitch, and I don't usually do that after a defeat because I am a miserable bastard.
Chungy was superb as well, Medo very good. Defence played Ok except for the 2nd goal where they all stood about watching. Dawson was brushed off too easily by Woods I thought when the initial ball came in. Earlier poster was harsh on eagles I thought. There was one moment in the first half wher he instantly controlled the ball and sent a pinpoint long angled pass to Ngog who chested it down but once again delayed too long and didn't get a shot in. Eagles looked a class act to me last night and I also disagree that he hides from the ball. He shirks a strong tackle too often but even when struggling always looks for the ball.
My leicester mate and his Dad have season tickets there and said that we were the best team they'd seen this season and on the 2nd half disply I can see why. C Davies looked strong powerful and dangerous when he came on and Pratley did hwat he does well and ran and linked and harried all night. Vela worked hard and let no-one down but looks a bit out of his depth to me, hopefully it will come. Boggers was commanding as well.
That's just from my view from the stands but I've not seen any coverage yet.
We're going to miss JS and Ngog massively and I think it's a bit against us now but that'll make it all the sweeter if it works out.

[RobbieSavagesLeg]

Anyone got a link for the goals?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Can't really blame Butterfield for that second goal, where he was (as BWFCi notes) covering an unusual blunder from Dawson and the usual one from Knight. But it seems like we can blame him for everything else. Shame, but you win some, you lose some.

Bummer that we lest to Loster but we really can't complain that on the one occasion we lose, the top five teams don't even score let alone win. When did that last happen, in any division? Curious competition, this, and all the better for the levelness that means those rushing to firmly insist we need x points are somewhat less than scientific.

[DJBlu]

Looking at it last night grouped 3rd to 8th that little bit more.

Are we in the best place? Looks like it when you see the trouble the teams have had in the playoffs.

Sneak in at the last hour? Here's to hoping again!

[Prufrock]

That we looked more of a threat playing 4-4-2 when 2-1 down doesn't necessarily mean we should have started 4-4-2. Sounds like Butterfield had a mare, and it cost us. Without access to the medical reports on Ricketts etc it's difficult to know if that was a cock-up on Dougie's part, or just one of those things. Always easier with hindsight, but you do wonder if Butters was the best possible cover we could have got. Not that I'm up for criticising #DougieCool too much atm.

The amount of absolute shite that gets posted before game, only for the same folk to come on after the game giving it the 'I told you so' is jaw-droppingly depressing. #Nofaithinmankind.

Surely it's all reverse jinxery though? I thought we'd get a point last night, but I wasn't about to type that on here!

Still feeling a bit gutted this morning.

And to be fair about Butterfield, he hasn't played much for ages. Bit like Sheff Wed fans who are moaning about how poor Holden has been for them.......

I think Butterfield came in as very short term cover cos Mears was ill, but now of course Mears is proper ill and out for the season and then Riley gets injured and is also out.

We ain't having much luck.......again!

I'm sure that most of that pre-match absolute shite is little more than japery. That said, I honestly did think that last night would've been a nil-niller, and would've been delighted with same.

Now then, and I considered putting this in the angry thread. Have Leicester done something to piss Sky off? I sat there last night with Sky's regurgitating Sports News channel on and it promised "All the goals from The Championship coming up after the break". Brill, thinks I. I can watch all the goals and have 22:30 ish early night. They then indeed showed 'all the goals from The Championship'........... except the ones from our game. 'Maybe they're not in yet' thinks I, and proceeded to sit through Cardiff's celebrations for a full hour until they showed, once again, 'all the goals from The Championship'.......... except the ones from our game. So I gave up and went to bed in a grumps at 23:40.

I don't mean the 'anti-jinx' whatevery. I mean the genuine 'we should play this team in this formation' and then when we don't win give it the 'I told you so' coz they think they're ace having won the Champions League with Port Vale on Football manager and played semi-pro skittle ball for Chorley.

[Bruce Rioja]

I don't mean the 'anti-jinx' whatevery. I mean the genuine 'we should play this team in this formation' and then when we don't win give it the 'I told you so' coz they think they're ace having won the Champions League with Port Vale on Football manager and played semi-pro skittle ball for Chorley.

Oh, THEM?

I must say, you really are baaaaaang on!

[Enoch]

I clocked Leslie today in 'I was Monty's double.' He only had three words to say. 'Oh good show.'

Quality.

[BWFC_Insane]

That we looked more of a threat playing 4-4-2 when 2-1 down doesn't necessarily mean we should have started 4-4-2. Sounds like Butterfield had a mare, and it cost us. Without access to the medical reports on Ricketts etc it's difficult to know if that was a cock-up on Dougie's part, or just one of those things. Always easier with hindsight, but you do wonder if Butters was the best possible cover we could have got. Not that I'm up for criticising #DougieCool too much atm.

The amount of absolute shite that gets posted before game, only for the same folk to come on after the game giving it the 'I told you so' is jaw-droppingly depressing. #Nofaithinmankind.

Surely it's all reverse jinxery though? I thought we'd get a point last night, but I wasn't about to type that on here!

Still feeling a bit gutted this morning.

And to be fair about Butterfield, he hasn't played much for ages. Bit like Sheff Wed fans who are moaning about how poor Holden has been for them.......

I think Butterfield came in as very short term cover cos Mears was ill, but now of course Mears is proper ill and out for the season and then Riley gets injured and is also out.

We ain't having much luck.......again!

I'm sure that most of that pre-match absolute shite is little more than japery. That said, I honestly did think that last night would've been a nil-niller, and would've been delighted with same.

Now then, and I considered putting this in the angry thread. Have Leicester done something to piss Sky off? I sat there last night with Sky's regurgitating Sports News channel on and it promised "All the goals from The Championship coming up after the break". Brill, thinks I. I can watch all the goals and have 22:30 ish early night. They then indeed showed 'all the goals from The Championship'........... except the ones from our game. 'Maybe they're not in yet' thinks I, and proceeded to sit through Cardiff's celebrations for a full hour until they showed, once again, 'all the goals from The Championship'.......... except the ones from our game. So I gave up and went to bed in a grumps at 23:40.

I don't mean the 'anti-jinx' whatevery. I mean the genuine 'we should play this team in this formation' and then when we don't win give it the 'I told you so' coz they think they're ace having won the Champions League with Port Vale on Football manager and played semi-pro skittle ball for Chorley.

Oh yeah that grated on me too and I had to use a lot of willpower not to reply too.

[SmokinFrazier]

What's the issue with fans saying what they think is most effective? We were doing terribly playing 4-5-1 all season and some, like myself, argued 4-4-2 would be better and that proved to be true, leading to the best run of the season. To then switch before a huge game was a gamble and regardless of any hypothetical argument, we factually played better with two up front than we did with a lone striker.

If people are going to give the manager credit when things go right, it's fair to mention mistakes when things go wrong. It's not criticism either, it's just an opinion. If we could play yesterday's game again, I think most people would choose to stick with 4-4-2.

Criticism about certain selections is fair too. All reports suggest Butterfield had a stinker, so if he wasn't in the team, I'm sure we'd have had a better chance of winning. We'll never know whether that is true or not, but it's fair to question a selection when that player performs so poorly.

Like I said, if managers deserve praise for good selections and formation changes, then it should be mentioned when things go wrong too. From what I've read, I don't think we'd have lost last night, if we'd have started with Davies in the team up front rather than Vela in midfield. That's a fair enough statement, I think.

[Dr.Karl]

As others have said Butterfield's performance will be remembered by those who saw it. Absolutely woeful, there was a point where Zat Knight ran across to chase a ball in the RB position so Butter's couldn't get it. Never seen him run so fast.

Cracking game even though we lost. Medo looks a player to me. I was joking with the guy I went with that he could play anywhere, he eventually ended up centre back for the last few minutes . In fact most of the team looked good, Eagles has found his early season form and Lee is back to his best. Ngog was brilliant at linking up play but I'd wish he'd be a bit more selfish and shoot a little more. Be interested to see how we do at the back when Dawson leaves.

Think they edged the first half but the second was a belting end to end game. Had plenty of chances and possibly a better shout of a penalty than the one that was awarded when Lee looked to be fouled. That said they looked threatening too. Lots of encouraging signs and we're still in with a great shout of play offs. Only two other Bolton fans stupid enough to get the train back!

[BWFC_Insane]

What's the issue with fans saying what they think is most effective? We were doing terribly playing 4-5-1 all season and some, like myself, argued 4-4-2 would be better and that proved to be true, leading to the best run of the season. To then switch before a huge game was a gamble and regardless of any hypothetical argument, we factually played better with two up front than we did with a lone striker.

If people are going to give the manager credit when things go right, it's fair to mention mistakes when things go wrong. It's not criticism either, it's just an opinion. If we could play yesterday's game again, I think most people would choose to stick with 4-4-2.

Criticism about certain selections is fair too. All reports suggest Butterfield had a stinker, so if he wasn't in the team, I'm sure we'd have had a better chance of winning. We'll never know whether that is true or not, but it's fair to question a selection when that player performs so poorly.

Like I said, if managers deserve praise for good selections and formation changes, then it should be mentioned when things go wrong too. From what I've read, I don't think we'd have lost last night, if we'd have started with Davies in the team up front rather than Vela in midfield. That's a fair enough statement, I think.

We played 4-4-2 against Charlton and lost. If we'd played 4-5-1 like I'd said in my head we'd have definitely not lost.

Only time we were in the lead last night was when we played 4-5-1.

It's not as simple as you make out. End of the day Dougie picks teams for a reason. He's given me no reason to not trust in what he does.

[Prufrock]

What's the issue with fans saying what they think is most effective? We were doing terribly playing 4-5-1 all season and some, like myself, argued 4-4-2 would be better and that proved to be true, leading to the best run of the season. To then switch before a huge game was a gamble and regardless of any hypothetical argument, we factually played better with two up front than we did with a lone striker.

If people are going to give the manager credit when things go right, it's fair to mention mistakes when things go wrong. It's not criticism either, it's just an opinion. If we could play yesterday's game again, I think most people would choose to stick with 4-4-2.

Criticism about certain selections is fair too. All reports suggest Butterfield had a stinker, so if he wasn't in the team, I'm sure we'd have had a better chance of winning. We'll never know whether that is true or not, but it's fair to question a selection when that player performs so poorly.

Like I said, if managers deserve praise for good selections and formation changes, then it should be mentioned when things go wrong too. From what I've read, I don't think we'd have lost last night, if we'd have started with Davies in the team up front rather than Vela in midfield. That's a fair enough statement, I think.

It's 'factually' true.

[Leyther_Matt]

Despite the result, I thought the game was great entertainment and really enjoyed it (even after missing the first 15 minutes after misjudging the traffic en route from boozing in Ashby-de-la-Zouch!)

[Gail Platz]

I've also just remembered another Butters moment, right after conceding I said to my mate we need to calm down as Charlton scored two in succession against us. Straight from kick off we pass it backwards and an easy long ball under no pressure sailed about 10 rows out of play! Perhaps not as awful as that "backpass" though

At least DF was man enough to give him the hook, a performance for the ages.

Butterfield will be one of those.. "Fvck me, remember that shithouse we had on loan?!"

Bit like Otsemobor

Haha I was thinking along the same kind of lines, except thinking "In a couple of years I'll be sat on some forum talking about this Butterfield the same way I talk about Gerald Cid now".

Really delayed post but barely had a minute since the match, what a great game of football especially in the 2nd half, despite losing it's up there with one of the best games I've seen this season. Craig Davies made a massive difference when he came on, it's refreshing to know that we've got a striker that can actually kick a ball propertly and it seems like he has a bit of everything - strength, pace, power and a shot. I'm not saying he's Drogba but that he's a decent all rounder that can definitely play as a lone man tomorrow against Boro if needed.

Can only echo what everyone else said that apart from Butterfield I thought everyone had a great game. If we'd played like that throughout the season I'd expect us to win far more than we'd lose and easily be up there challenging for an automatic promotion spot.

Finally just a note on smoke bombs, I've got no issue with these, (in fact I think they spark a bit of atmosphere amongst the fans so I'm all for them) I'm sure people don't like them but why am I always literally stood next to a lad that sets them off?! Every away game I've been to one has gone off next to me, where do people get them from? Are they sold in dodgy offies or something?

Anyway, a bit more of the same in terms of performance tomorrow and we should smash Boro..... emphasis on the word 'should'.

[Salford Trotter]

Finally just a note on smoke bombs, I've got no issue with these, (in fact I think they spark a bit of atmosphere amongst the fans so I'm all for them) I'm sure people don't like them but why am I always literally stood next to a lad that sets them off?! Every away game I've been to one has gone off next to me, where do people get them from? Are they sold in dodgy offies or something?

I got a lung full of the smoke bomb at Barnsley and spent the majority of the second half wretching, it was not pleasant. Thankfully i managed to avoid the smoke at Leicester but wanted to echo the others who felt it was a great game. I've really enjoyed this season, particularly the away games and if we did happen to get promoted it will be sad farewell to the Championship but money talks