Rallying Cry

[BWFC_Insane]

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Make it or not the players deserve full backing for their extraordinary efforts in the past few months.

We've got a chance still and really that scenario seemed unimaginable in February.

Be nice if the final two home games were absolute cauldrons.

[boltonboris]

It'd be nice. But it's unlikely.

I think a lot of our fans are in the "you better fvckin do it, or else" camp.

[BWFC_Insane]

It'd be nice. But it's unlikely.

I think a lot of our fans are in the "you better fvckin do it, or else" camp.

Know what you mean, but I think they almost always are in that camp. It's just (modern) football fans.

Certainly feels like the gloom has lifted from the place recently even with the shall we say "less enthusiastic" fans. Long way to go in general before anyone is doing conga's in the stand like.

But I can feel a little feelgood factor creeping back in slowly.

[PC1978]

It'd be nice. But it's unlikely.

I think a lot of our fans are in the "you better fvckin do it, or else" camp.

Know what you mean, but I think they almost always are in that camp. It's just (modern) football fans.

Certainly feels like the gloom has lifted from the place recently even with the shall we say "less enthusiastic" fans. Long way to go in general before anyone is doing conga's in the stand like.

But I can feel a little feelgood factor creeping back in slowly.

The gloom hasn't lifted where I sit. The miserable cnut behind me was saying that Freedman should f**k off back down south during the Wolves match when we were 2-0 up and going on to win our 7th consecutive home game.

I have requested to move my seat next year, I think I would struggle to find a more miserable b**t**d anywhere in the Reebok.

[boltonboris]

There are people near me who will sit quietly during our good spells, but as soon as there's a misplaced pass are up on their feet telling the whole squad to go fvck 'emselves.

I think there's been almost irreversible damage to the atmosphere at the Reebok going back to Megson's arrival.

[BWFC_Insane]

There are people near me who will sit quietly during our good spells, but as soon as there's a misplaced pass are up on their feet telling the whole squad to go fvck 'emselves.

I think there's been almost irreversible damage to the atmosphere at the Reebok going back to Megson's arrival.

Yeah I said at the time that condoning the reaction to his appointment was the slippery slope to fans moaning like babies constantly.

That's what we've got now in some cases. Plenty of very aggresive fans who exercise their right to shout and scream at the team, manager, fellow fans whenever they want.

Which is fine. It's just not that helpful.

However, the more I think about it, the more I think it goes back further than Megson, possibly even further back than Sam. Plenty who moaned when Rioch was here for example. Chester away. Some were calling for his head! It'll be the same at other clubs. I suspect it SEEMS worse at Bolton because as Gartside correctly points out we have a generation of fans (and I'm not just talking ages of the fans here, but the point they started watching Bolton regularly) who experienced 10-15 years of broadly high moments watching Bolton. And the last 10 or so the best in 50 years.

So it's bound to be hard to accept the dips and the low periods for some.

[boltonboris]

Yep.. But we're all supposed to be fans. It's sort of our duty to get behind the team, then piss and moan afterwards..

Last season there was a lot of apathy. This season there seems to be massive amounts of impatience. I've been guilty of being impatient myself until quite recently. But I've never released that frustration inside the ground.

[thebish]

maybe it's worse now - but unless my memory is faulty - there were old blokes* around me pissing and moaning back in the 1970s... they were not as foul-mouthed - but they were not all pop-pom-shaking cheerleaders!

*back then - any bloke over 30 would have seemed like an "old bloke" to me

[boltonboris]

Aye, but back then Bish (speculating here, as I may not even have been born ), I reckon the atmosphere on a matchday was significantly better than it is now.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Aye, but back then Bish (speculating here, as I may not even have been born ), I reckon the atmosphere on a matchday was significantly better than it is now.

At least nobody was punching any white horses anyway.

[thebish]

Aye, but back then Bish (speculating here, as I may not even have been born ), I reckon the atmosphere on a matchday was significantly better than it is now.

it's kinda difficult to judge - because i think some of my changed perceptions are about stuff other than the number of moaners about... back then I was a kid - and it was ALL exciting to me - whatever happened... also - we were stood up on terraces (not that I'd go back to them - but it was different to the "my seat"/"my individual personal space" culture... also - the world was kinda different... the number one massive change to hit the UK over the last generation is the all-pervading consumer-culture. consumerism is now the God or the UK and people (whether knowingly or not) worship at her shrine... I think football crowds are as affected by that as anyone else..

still - I think the biggest factor is growing up.... I'm older than 30 now - and I cannot expect to compare my matchday experience NOW with my experience THEN and simply point to external factors for why it is different...

all of which doesn't mean there are NOT more moaners about putting a dampener on things - just to gently suggest that it might be that either it's not new for people to moan and/or conditions have changed which just make comparison with the past a very difficult place to draw simple conclusions...

PS..

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Lord Kangana]

I think the fans are a cancer on this wonderful club.

Fans out.

[Worthy4England]

Tomorrow, I will make a special effort not to point out that N'gog hit the roof of the South Stand again.

Promise.

[jaffka]

maybe it's worse now - but unless my memory is faulty - there were old blokes* around me pissing and moaning back in the 1970s... they were not as foul-mouthed - but they were not all pop-pom-shaking cheerleaders!

*back then - any bloke over 30 would have seemed like an "old bloke" to me

In those days when people existed on fried food, tobacco and spirits. No wonder you looked knackered when you got to forty.

[PC1978]

I can understand moaning when things are going badly and I have to admit to doing so on the odd occasion myself (I call it gentle encouragement!). But for idiots to moan when things are picking up is stupid to me. I just can't understand what some people want or expect.

[Enoch]

Tomorrow, I will make a special effort not to point out that N'gog hit the roof of the South Stand again.

I'll wager internet quids that N'Gog does nothing of the kind tomorrow.

Lots of internet quids!

[Worthy4England]

Tomorrow, I will make a special effort not to point out that N'gog hit the roof of the South Stand again.

I'll wager internet quids that N'Gog does nothing of the kind tomorrow.

Lots of internet quids!

I suspect I'll be pretty safe in not having to point it out then.

[TKIZ!]

Maybe should an introduction of 'when winning no moaning' with on the spot fines if you do?

[Jakerbeef]

In those days when people existed on fried food, tobacco and spirits. No wonder you looked knackered when you got to forty.

I exist on that now, but then I am Scottish.


(Actually I'm off the smokes but that's somewhat transient.)

[Salford Trotter]

Moaning is just about acceptable but booing is frankly embarrassing