STU-SA

[bobo the clown]

I wonder if he'll end up back in MLS over the summer in a loan deal to try and get some games under his belt ready for next season?

Two problems here. One, he's likely to get hurt. MLS referees let a lot go. U.S. defenders tend to possess a great deal of size, strength, and pace at the expense of actual ability.

Two, the process of acquiring a returning U.S. national team player is pretty complicated. Read on if you want a bit of an MLS primer, but the short version is that it would probably be a huge pain in the butt to get him for only a few months.

Houston MAY hold the rights to Holden, so if someone else wants him, they have to trade for it.

If Houston doesn't hold the rights to Holden, then he would have to go through something called the "allocation process." Back when MLS was founded in 1996, the only marketable names in the U.S. were national team players, so a system was devised to disperse them throughout the league.

Teams are ranked 1-19 . . . Team #1 has first crack at a U.S. international who is entering the league. If they don't want him, team #2 has the option to take him. If Team #2 takes him, they move down to #19 and everyone below them moves up. You can also make trades. Seattle wanted Eddie Johnson, so they traded two players to Montreal so they could move up in the order and get him.

So basically, trade some money or draft picks to get an unfit player for a few months.

"Land of the Free" eh ??

[plymouth wanderer]

I wonder if he'll end up back in MLS over the summer in a loan deal to try and get some games under his belt ready for next season?

Two problems here. One, he's likely to get hurt. MLS referees let a lot go. U.S. defenders tend to possess a great deal of size, strength, and pace at the expense of actual ability.

Two, the process of acquiring a returning U.S. national team player is pretty complicated. Read on if you want a bit of an MLS primer, but the short version is that it would probably be a huge pain in the butt to get him for only a few months.

Houston MAY hold the rights to Holden, so if someone else wants him, they have to trade for it.

If Houston doesn't hold the rights to Holden, then he would have to go through something called the "allocation process." Back when MLS was founded in 1996, the only marketable names in the U.S. were national team players, so a system was devised to disperse them throughout the league.

Teams are ranked 1-19 . . . Team #1 has first crack at a U.S. international who is entering the league. If they don't want him, team #2 has the option to take him. If Team #2 takes him, they move down to #19 and everyone below them moves up. You can also make trades. Seattle wanted Eddie Johnson, so they traded two players to Montreal so they could move up in the order and get him.

So basically, trade some money or draft picks to get an unfit player for a few months.

"Land of the Free" eh ??

Tim Ream

Pace and errr thats about it

[H. Pedersen]

"Land of the Free" eh ??

Trust me, I’ve often noticed the irony that the American league is run like a kibbutz while the European leagues are like some Ayn Rand capitalist wet dream.

I wouldn’t change it, though.

[H. Pedersen]

Tim Ream

Pace and errr thats about it

Also size, he's 6'1". Just doesn't play like it.

[plymouth wanderer]

Tim Ream

Pace and errr thats about it

Also size, he's 6'1". Just doesn't play like it.

Not massive tho for a centre back

[Bruce Rioja]

Tim Ream

Pace and errr thats about it

Also size, he's 6'1". Just doesn't play like it.

Two words. Zat Knight!

[a1]

zat knight's about 18 times better.

if i could go back in time and shooting coyle breaks the spacetime-einstein thing, but cloning zat knght and making gaz megson buy his 'twin' brother for £5m doesnt break it , i'd do it just so coyle plays zat and his clone in the west brom games last season. we'd stop up.

then i'd shoot coyle.

also zat versus birmingham x years ago, i only saw five minutes of it on tv (it were away, taylor or lee scored) but all the highlights were the goals and knight heading about 64 corners towards goal.

:/

[boltonboris]

Tim Ream

Pace and errr thats about it

Also size, he's 6'1". Just doesn't play like it.

6'1's feck all for a premier league footballer, never mind a centre back.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

zat knight's about 18 times better.

if i could go back in time and shooting coyle breaks the spacetime-einstein thing, but cloning zat knght and making gaz megson buy his 'twin' brother for £5m doesnt break it , i'd do it just so coyle plays zat and his clone in the west brom games last season. we'd stop up.

then i'd shoot coyle.

also zat versus birmingham x years ago, i only saw five minutes of it on tv (it were away, taylor or lee scored) but all the highlights were the goals and knight heading about 64 corners towards goal.

:/

You are a Roman centurion and I claim my £XXV

[Lord Kangana]

WTF is he on about anyway?

BableFish doesn't have an option for Constant Stream of Bollox.

[plymouth wanderer]

zat knight's about 18 times better.

if i could go back in time and shooting coyle breaks the spacetime-einstein thing, but cloning zat knght and making gaz megson buy his 'twin' brother for £5m doesnt break it , i'd do it just so coyle plays zat and his clone in the west brom games last season. we'd stop up.

then i'd shoot coyle.

also zat versus birmingham x years ago, i only saw five minutes of it on tv (it were away, taylor or lee scored) but all the highlights were the goals and knight heading about 64 corners towards goal.

:/

[Lost Leopard Spot]

WTF is he on about anyway?

BableFish doesn't have an option for Constant Stream of Bollox.

You're using the wrong online resource. BabelFish is good but it requires a knowledge of the languages being translated, whereas Translate.Google.com has no such requirement as it is based on a mathematical formula where it compares all known instances of each word on the web.

Viola

Zat Knight es cerca de 18 veces mejor.

Si pudiera volver atrás en el tiempo y coyle disparo rompe el espacio-tiempo-cosa einstein, pero la clonación zat knght y hacer gaz Megson comprar su hermano gemelo "de 5 millones de libras no lo rompe, lo haría obras tan coyle zac y su clonar en los juegos west Brom temporada pasada. nos detenemos para arriba.

entonces me mataría Coyle.

También zat frente birmingham x hace años, que sólo vio a cinco minutos en la televisión (fuera de distancia, taylor o lee anotó), pero lo más destacado fueron las metas y los caballeros dirigen aproximadamente 64 esquinas hacia la meta.

much better...

[a1]

WTF is he on about anyway?

zat knight's better than timothy ream, so much so, i wish we had two just so timothy ream didnt play against west brom.

and zat knight's only 'alright' .

then something about their lack of heading ability, one game i only just saw, i saw zatman head the ball loads, whether he were ill and forgot he carnt do it , or its a bollocks rumour, but it looked to me like he really wanted to score against birmingham with his head.

chris waddle.

[TANGODANCER]

[quote="Lost Leopard SpotTambién zat frente birmingham x hace años, que sólo vio a cinco minutos en la televisión (fuera de distancia, taylor o lee anotó), pero lo más destacado fueron las metas y los caballeros dirigen aproximadamente 64 esquinas hacia la meta.[/quote]
much better...[/quote]

Depending on whether the corner was an inswinger or outswinger, rincon could also apply to esquina.

[as]

Maybe with a more clued-up manager and better coaching Ream can improve?

I'll never forget how bad he was against Burnley, but then again I was at BSA's first game against Crewe when Rodney Jack tore a very nervous Jussi a new one (think he chipped him from 30 yards and JJ got booed by his own fans).

[SmokinFrazier]

Ream is a better player than Knight is. He's prone to errors and too weak for the Championship, but he's better defensively and has something to offer going forward too. At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream. He and Wheater formed a good partnership for us and I hope we see it again in the future.

Knight is suited to the Championship but that's more a reflection on the league than him. If we do go up, he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.

[boltonboris]

Ream is a better player than Knight is. He's prone to errors and too weak for the Championship, but he's better defensively and has something to offer going forward too. At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream. He and Wheater formed a good partnership for us and I hope we see it again in the future.

Knight is suited to the Championship but that's more a reflection on the league than him. If we do go up, he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.

I stopped reading this after the first 7 words

[Loyal White]

Ream is a better player than Knight is. He's prone to errors and too weak for the Championship, but he's better defensively and has something to offer going forward too. At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream. He and Wheater formed a good partnership for us and I hope we see it again in the future.

Knight is suited to the Championship but that's more a reflection on the league than him. If we do go up, he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.

Yes there is, me, I'd rather have had Knight than Ream.

[SmokinFrazier]

Ream was a lot better than Knight last year. People have selective memories, both about how good Ream was and how awful Knight was. If we go up, Ream must be ahead of Knight in the pecking order.

[AbrahM]

People talk about the Championship being a tougher league than the prem because it's more physical. I think that's the case with Ream, I thought he was very good technically last season and could play there again. Can play left back? Remember him doing a delicious cross for Pratley's goal home to QPR last season. Got good pace and at least can defend better than Alonso.