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Re: STU-SA

Post by LeverEnd » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:13 pm

Ream did look good when he first game, went off a bit towards the end but wasn't on his own. Worth another go if we get up. I thought he was a really good signing at first, seemed to slot in seamlessly. He's been far worse than Knight this season but can't have suddenly turned completely shit overnight. Given the rumours about training maybe Coyle's 'regime' didn't suit him and he deteriorated from the day he arrived? Wouldn't be bothered if he left but not as desperate to get rid as I was after Watford away.
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Post by H. Pedersen » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:58 am

Not really sure about Ream. Remember the differences in the American system. Players age 25 are usually seasoned veterans in Europe but Ream has only been playing at the professional level since 2010. And he's spent his whole career playing for New York Red Bulls and Owen Coyle, neither who whom give two cents for organizing the defense.

He needs games and guidance if he's ever going to make it.

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Post by boltonboris » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:16 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:Ream was a lot better than Knight last year. People have selective memories, both about how good Ream was and how awful Knight was. If we go up, Ream must be ahead of Knight in the pecking order.
You talk shit. I actually remarked after about 6 Ream appearances, that he was possibly the worst defender we've had in years. He has NONE of the attributes needed to be a centre back, but he's also not mobile enough or comfortable enough to be a full back. He's a weak minded, soft as shite, nothing footballer and I'd feck him off tomorrow.

Harsh I know, but after West Brom (again, I referred to it as the single worst individual Defensive performance I've seen since the reebok opened) I lost any patience
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Post by boltonboris » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:18 am

I remember somebody saying that once he gets going he's quick, but he turns like a cargo ship and by the time he "gets going" it's too feckin late
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:24 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:Ream is a better player than Knight is. He's prone to errors and too weak for the Championship, but he's better defensively and has something to offer going forward too. At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream. He and Wheater formed a good partnership for us and I hope we see it again in the future.

Knight is suited to the Championship but that's more a reflection on the league than him. If we do go up, he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.
Incorrect. I have never (since seeing Ream play) wanted him in ahead of Knight or anyone else. I'm undecided as to whether Cid would get in ahead of him.

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Post by Jez » Fri May 03, 2013 4:58 pm

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Stu is going to be part of the USA team for the gold cup this summer, fantastic news

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Post by thebish » Fri May 03, 2013 5:27 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream.

hmmm.... are you sure?

back end of last season - will May 11th suit you? is that back end enough??

Tango is musing on the forthcoming Stoke game, should we play Ream or Knight? he concludes:
If Crouch starts it'll have to be Knight as CD, or who's going to jump against Crouch? Ream's solid enough but about a foot too short for ariel challenges against a giraffe. Hidden dragons can fly and breathe fire, hope one appears to combat the Crouching tiger. :D
musing on the same thing, boris says:
We've nobody else, so Knight starting is a given.
Also, I would hardly describe Ream as "solid enough"
which doesn't seem to suggest a preference for Ream over Knight...

on 1st May, 2012 - the back end of last season, for the Spuds game, mullayo proposed Knight & Wheater - NOT Ream and Wheater:
Mullayo wrote:-------------Bogdan------------------
Boyata----Wheater--Knight---Ricketts
--------------Ream-------------------
Mears-----Mavies--Vela---------Petrov
--------------SKD--------------------

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Post by Tombwfc » Fri May 03, 2013 5:45 pm

How exactly does Ream being weak and prone to errors mean he'd be a better player in a better division? He can't handle the physical presence of 5ft 11in winger Michail Antonio, what would he do against Benteke?

Every single Premier League team has at least one striker who'd either run rings around Ream, or bully him all over the park.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri May 03, 2013 5:54 pm

Tombwfc wrote:How exactly does Ream being weak and prone to errors mean he'd be a better player in a better division? He can't handle the physical presence of 5ft 11in winger Michail Antonio, what would he do against Benteke?

Every single Premier League team has at least one striker who'd either run rings around Ream, or bully him all over the park.
Unless he's improved some, I suspect some Prem Teams have goalkeepers who'd run rings round him too.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Fri May 03, 2013 10:42 pm

Thats all well and good, but Tango must've banged his head that morning, thinking Knight would jump rather than jump under every f*cking high ball that ever comes near him. There are pygmies that are more aerially dominant than the concrete-booted-f*cker.

Not that it grates or anything.
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Post by thebish » Fri May 03, 2013 11:19 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Thats all well and good, but Tango must've banged his head that morning, thinking Knight would jump rather than jump under every f*cking high ball that ever comes near him. There are pygmies that are more aerially dominant than the concrete-booted-f*cker.

Not that it grates or anything.

I wouldn't dare question Tango's judgement there - you'll find it's just his opinion and that's all (etc) :wink: all that was needed was one person to disprove Smokin's assertion...

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri May 03, 2013 11:52 pm

I don't know if he's got another position, but Ream is not up to it at centre back and never will be.
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Post by mrkint » Sat May 04, 2013 1:01 am

thebish wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:At the back end of last season, there isn't a single person on here who would have wanted Knight in the team instead of Ream.

hmmm.... are you sure?

back end of last season - will May 11th suit you? is that back end enough??

Tango is musing on the forthcoming Stoke game, should we play Ream or Knight? he concludes:
If Crouch starts it'll have to be Knight as CD, or who's going to jump against Crouch? Ream's solid enough but about a foot too short for ariel challenges against a giraffe. Hidden dragons can fly and breathe fire, hope one appears to combat the Crouching tiger. :D
musing on the same thing, boris says:
We've nobody else, so Knight starting is a given.
Also, I would hardly describe Ream as "solid enough"
which doesn't seem to suggest a preference for Ream over Knight...

on 1st May, 2012 - the back end of last season, for the Spuds game, mullayo proposed Knight & Wheater - NOT Ream and Wheater:
Mullayo wrote:-------------Bogdan------------------
Boyata----Wheater--Knight---Ricketts
--------------Ream-------------------
Mears-----Mavies--Vela---------Petrov
--------------SKD--------------------
You should go out more.

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Post by seanworth » Sat May 04, 2013 1:12 am

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Post by thebish » Sat May 04, 2013 9:10 am

mrkint wrote: You should go out more.
i think you'll find that if we have a little dig through forum archives, that is proven not to be the case.... :wink:

maybe it's just me - but I am always interested when people make very definitive statements about what everyone else thought in the past in order to support their own current view... more often than not they are making it up...

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat May 04, 2013 9:17 am

thebish wrote:
mrkint wrote: You should go out more.
i think you'll find that if we have a little dig through forum archives, that is proven not to be the case.... :wink:

maybe it's just me - but I am always interested when people make very definitive statements about what everyone else thought in the past
in order to support their own current view... more often than not they are making it up...
Most folks on here don't agree with that. :twisted:

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Post by thebish » Sat May 04, 2013 3:24 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:
mrkint wrote: You should go out more.
i think you'll find that if we have a little dig through forum archives, that is proven not to be the case.... :wink:

maybe it's just me - but I am always interested when people make very definitive statements about what everyone else thought in the past
in order to support their own current view... more often than not they are making it up...
Most folks on here don't agree with that. :twisted:
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Re: STU-SA

Post by bobo the clown » Tue May 14, 2013 1:37 pm

So, it seems the two parties are debaying whether it should be a one or two year deal.

Personally, if he's fit, I hope it's a two year one. However, more to the point, both sides of this are now shown to have been lying through their teeth. They knew where the pen was all the time.
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Post by jaffka » Tue May 14, 2013 3:05 pm

bobo the clown wrote:So, it seems the two parties are debaying whether it should be a one or two year deal.

Personally, if he's fit, I hope it's a two year one. However, more to the point, both sides of this are now shown to have been lying through their teeth. They knew where the pen was all the time.
It is a tough one of the club this, if he is good and gets back like he was we risk losing him on a bosman from a 1 year deal. If he comes back average though and is a passenger the 2 year deal will be a big mistake.

Obviously the reverse of the above benefits both club and player.

So Gartside it is crystal ball time...

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Post by boltonboris » Tue May 14, 2013 3:15 pm

What about a 1 year with an automatic second year should he play X amount of games?

Or is that too easy?
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