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Re: the Photo thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue May 07, 2013 10:06 am

thebish wrote:I've never snatched a dolphin! well done!! :D
Cheers. Tricky little buggers to snatch they are too. I was on a boat following a yacht race off Ireland. I was holding on for dear life and trying not to drop my Nikon in the briny while lining up shots of the racing yachts when up popped him/her. S/he grinned at me once and then decided we weren't going fast enough and opened up the throttle and there s/he was gone.
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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 10:28 am

some sections of the photographic community are getting exercised about a recent law-change re. copyright...
The UK Parliament has just passed a highly controversial law that has been met with outrage across the photography world.

The new Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act allows all so-called ‘orphaned’ work to be used for free. That’s right – photographs and other creative work can be used without explicit permission if the owner cannot be contacted.

All the infringer has to do is prove they performed a “diligent search.”

Most worryingly of all, the law also applies to images that have no metadata. As we know, the majority of websites and social media sites strip out all metadata. Bingo! For the next individual or corporation that comes along, it’s free.

This extraordinary change in the law drives a horse and cart through copyright protection. Before it was illegal to exploit a copyright work without the permission of its owner: now it is legal.

What does ‘diligent’ mean?
The exact workings of the new legislation are yet to be formalised and the full text of the act is not published until Thursday (2 May) so we do not yet know exactly what that vague term “diligent search” means.

Apparently, the searches would have to be verified as diligent by independent authorising bodies. In addition, organisations would have to pay a “market rate” to use orphan works so rights holders could be recompensed for the use of the works if they were later identified.

And just in case you weren’t quite sure just whose side this law is on, it also allows future reforms to exceptions to copyright to be delivered far more easily, through new regulations rather than new Acts of Parliament.

Global fall-out
In a global digital world this law has implications that stretch far beyond the borders of the UK.

As the British Press Photographers’ Association pointed out, this is: “A seemingly innocuous clause in an otherwise largely uncontroversial piece of legislation that will not only harm our industry but also place this country at odds with a vital international treaty.”

Indeed, the law has caught the particular attention of US photographers. In a letter to business minister Vince Cable, whose Department for Business, Innovation and Skills is behind the act, six groups representing US photographers and graphic artists say it breaches international law and warn it will have costly consequences.

Moral rights

At home, UK Photography’s biggest celebrity, David Bailey, has written to the Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne MP on behalf of all owners and creators of intellectual property.

He says: “This legislation should never have been even considered without first giving us our moral rights, and is contrary to our right under the Berne Convention.”

The campaign against this law is growing. In the meantime, the only way to protect yourself completely is to register all your images or take them offline completely.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue May 07, 2013 10:48 am

I had a friend send me an email about that this morning. After reading all that he'd sent (pages of it) I don't think it's a huge change from what occurs now. Copyright is still invested in the work. The fact you might not have as much control over who uses it is not a big worry to me, there were ways previously that people could legally use copyrighted material without permission.
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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 10:54 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I had a friend send me an email about that this morning. After reading all that he'd sent (pages of it) I don't think it's a huge change from what occurs now. Copyright is still invested in the work. The fact you might not have as much control over who uses it is not a big worry to me, there were ways previously that people could legally use copyrighted material without permission.
snot a big worry to me - as I actually don't care who uses my photos - I have no real expectation of financial gain from them... but others do - in which case I suspect they may have to take a little more care over where/how they are shared online...

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I had a friend send me an email about that this morning. After reading all that he'd sent (pages of it) I don't think it's a huge change from what occurs now. Copyright is still invested in the work. The fact you might not have as much control over who uses it is not a big worry to me, there were ways previously that people could legally use copyrighted material without permission.
snot a big worry to me - as I actually don't care who uses my photos - I have no real expectation of financial gain from them... but others do - in which case I suspect they may have to take a little more care over where/how they are shared online...
I might be missing something here, but copyright still exists and if somebody uses your copyrighted material they will have to pay you. The major change in this henryviii legislation is about permission not to use copyrighted material - it takes away a little power from the copyright owner but does not deny them a living.
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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 10:59 am

there's an interesting photo competition on at the moment (June deadline) about recreating a childhood scene in the present..

http://www.photographycompetitions.net/ ... o-contest/

I'm a little bit creeped out by the second and third of their examples though..

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thebish wrote:there's an interesting photo competition on at the moment (June deadline) about recreating a childhood scene in the present..

http://www.photographycompetitions.net/ ... o-contest/

I'm a little bit creeped out by the second and third of their examples though..

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Third one's a bit out there on the creepiness spectrum, but the second one is only tasteless in a fashionista sense.
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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 11:05 am

i have to say this competition has me scratching my head - I mean, i have so many potential pictures to enter - which one!!
Show us your best Civil War battlefield photos of 2013! Fancy yourself a modern day Alexander Gardner or Mathew Brady? If so, we have a contest for you. The Civil War Trust is proud to announce the opening of our 2013 Annual Photography Contest.

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Post by bobo the clown » Tue May 07, 2013 11:24 am

Not my photo, regrettably, but a mates. On Trevor Rocks, overlooking Llangollen in the dead of a cloudless night, with a head-strap lamp on. His beam is directed at Orion .... so he says.

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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 11:30 am

^ nice idea! :-) (he needed to stand a bit stiller though!)

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Post by Il Pirate » Tue May 07, 2013 12:07 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:To restore some feng-shui to the Photo thread here is the only picture of a dolphin I've ever managed to snatch. The composition isn't great, but at least it's a dolphin.

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Is it not a porpoise?

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:To restore some feng-shui to the Photo thread here is the only picture of a dolphin I've ever managed to snatch. The composition isn't great, but at least it's a dolphin.

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Is it not a porpoise?
Nope. Tis a young bottle nosed dolphin. I was reliably informed of that by the skipper of the boat I was on who had seen him/her since the pod had arrived a couple of years previously.
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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 12:32 pm

it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue May 07, 2013 12:37 pm

thebish wrote:it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....
It's not I tell ye. It's a dolphin. But I'm now aware that I've not even seen a porpoise never mind photographed one. This needs rectifying... I wonder if they have porpoises in the Maldives? Hmmmmm?
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thebish wrote:it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....
It's not I tell ye. It's a dolphin. But I'm now aware that I've not even seen a porpoise never mind photographed one. This needs rectifying... I wonder if they have porpoises in the Maldives? Hmmmmm?
Looks like a dolphin to me. I'll keep an eye out in the Maldives for porpoises and report back :)

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....
It's not I tell ye. It's a dolphin. But I'm now aware that I've not even seen a porpoise never mind photographed one. This needs rectifying... I wonder if they have porpoises in the Maldives? Hmmmmm?
Looks like a dolphin to me. I'll keep an eye out in the Maldives for porpoises and report back :)
Watch out for sharks too :P
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Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....
It's not I tell ye. It's a dolphin. But I'm now aware that I've not even seen a porpoise never mind photographed one. This needs rectifying... I wonder if they have porpoises in the Maldives? Hmmmmm?
Looks like a dolphin to me. I'll keep an eye out in the Maldives for porpoises and report back :)
Watch out for sharks too :P
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Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:it could be a porpoise disguised as a bottle-nosed dolphin? little tricksters those porpoises are....
It's not I tell ye. It's a dolphin. But I'm now aware that I've not even seen a porpoise never mind photographed one. This needs rectifying... I wonder if they have porpoises in the Maldives? Hmmmmm?
Looks like a dolphin to me. I'll keep an eye out in the Maldives for porpoises and report back :)
Watch out for sharks too :P
I'm more worried about stepping on this fella Image

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Post by thebish » Tue May 07, 2013 1:01 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: Image
that, too is a porpoise in disguise... they are the underwater masters and mistresses of disguise...

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue May 07, 2013 1:03 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote: Nah. Don't worry about it. Guaranteed almost instantaneous death - you won't feel a thing.
Thanks. I feel much better now :shock:

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