Club Rebranding

[bobo the clown]

I got a thing in the post today about my season ticket. On it was a largish Tudor rose ... Red, with a white inner and another red centre. The flier says "we're back" ... I guess this is part of the rose returning on the badge.

We'll see it soon enough I guess.

[William the White]

Can I just interject a quick Arrrrrrrrrgh into this. QuickfxckinQuid! We live in a capitalist society. It's full of shitbags making lots of money out if vulnerable people, all the fxcking time. BHS are not saints. Barclays are probably culpable for the deaths of thousands of people, and Rio Tinto Zinc are absolute tw*ts. I mean Google "Do No Evil" FFS. If you feel contaminated by QuickfxckinQuid then don't buy the shirt. If you think that's not enough, then write few letters. If you still feel aggrieved start a new country... Actually, when you have, invite me to it, I'd love to live there.

A lot of truth in all that...

But it just seems to me that in the 'shit under the fingernails' feeling that modern capitalism induces, those companies directing lending at the most desperate and vulnerable at rates over 1000 % get it most toxic... andreally should be forced to drown in their own vomit. I won't be buying the shirt. but then, i never do... but I'm even more not buying the shirt this season than the last ( and I was very not buying the shirt then)...

[adamworthy2002]

[Enoch]

I haven't been this excited since........

[adamworthy2002]

I haven't been this excited since........

The announcement of our new sponsor?

[bobo the clown]

Well .... Navy adidas strips are better than the red ones of yore.

[Prufrock]

Can I just interject a quick Arrrrrrrrrgh into this. QuickfxckinQuid! We live in a capitalist society. It's full of shitbags making lots of money out if vulnerable people, all the fxcking time. BHS are not saints. Barclays are probably culpable for the deaths of thousands of people, and Rio Tinto Zinc are absolute tw*ts. I mean Google "Do No Evil" FFS. If you feel contaminated by QuickfxckinQuid then don't buy the shirt. If you think that's not enough, then write few letters. If you still feel aggrieved start a new country... Actually, when you have, invite me to it, I'd love to live there.

A lot of truth in all that...

But it just seems to me that in the 'shit under the fingernails' feeling that modern capitalism induces, those companies directing lending at the most desperate and vulnerable at rates over 1000 % get it most toxic... andreally should be forced to drown in their own vomit. I won't be buying the shirt. but then, i never do... but I'm even more not buying the shirt this season than the last ( and I was very not buying the shirt then)...

I think that's what gets most people about these sort of companies.

I've no problem at all with 'classic' bank loans. Both sides go in with eyes open, both hoping to gain. The creation of credit meant people with good ideas, who could never have got the capital behind them, can pursue those ideas, and in return for that opportunity they pay a premium on what they borrow. When it works well it's brilliant for everyone, but even if it goes wrong, both sides knew there was a chance beforehand, and could and ought to have planned to defend against it, or at least mitigate their losses. (^ 18 year-old me would have loved that shit )

With these pay-day loan companies there isn't the same symbiosis. In some cases, sure, people have bad months, or an unexpected cost and they need cash quickly, to tide them over. In those cases, I don't necessarily see a real problem. However, it does 'feel' as though these companies target the vulnerable in a bid to get them trapped in a cycle of debt they'll never get out of. Rinsing them of every spare penny for a few years before going for the kill and finishing them off. How often that happens I don't know, but when they first appeared there were all sorts of horror stories of astronomical interest rates being hidden in small print, and deliberately confusing and misleading advertising conning people into getting trapped. They seem to be better now, with the ludicrous interest rates in big font, and examples of the cost of the short term loans. Even so, they still seem exploitative to me.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Again, I caveat this with I'm not sure just how TRUE this is, but it was on the news so it can't be a million miles out. The percentage of defaulters was quoted at 40%. Hence the ridiculous interest rates. They are covering their arses. Plus, with same caveat, they don't actually charge 1000s % APR because it's not legal - that's usury. That's why the loans are capped at 30 days.
It's also self evident to me that if you cannot afford to borrow the last place you should go to borrow are these cnuts.
I don't defend them but you have to be a bit culpable if you are borrowing from them, surely...
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[Prufrock]

Again, I caveat this with I'm not sure just how TRUE this is, but it was on the news so it can't be a million miles out. The percentage of defaulters was quoted at 40%. Hence the ridiculous interest rates. They are covering their arses. Plus, with same caveat, they don't actually charge 1000s % APR because it's not legal - that's usury. That's why the loans are capped at 30 days.
It's also self evident to me that if you cannot afford to borrow the last place you should go to borrow are these cnuts.
I don't defend them but you have to be a bit culpable if you are borrowing from them, surely...
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It's not true here Spotty. We don't have any usury laws, and plenty of these loans 'roll-over'. The OFT threatened a load of them recently to basically clean up or lose their licences.

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[Vertigo]

Blue stripes! Thought the kit would be largely the same as last season but looks I'll be (at least a little) surprised. Hopefully we stick with red numbers too. Could lose the gold mind.

[Mr. Black]

this new kit is looking possibly similar to the 1988/90 matchwinner normid kit

[TKIZ!]

If it looks like the 88/90 shirt I'd be extremely happy with that

[thebish]

If you still feel aggrieved start a new country... Actually, when you have, invite me to it, I'd love to live there.

You're moving in with Hoboh?

it's a blossoming romance... I think LLS is grooming Hoboh... it started with the Muslim stuff (not subtle, but very effective!)

[Lord Kangana]

Feel the Muslamic lurve.

[LeverEnd]

Feel the Muslamic lurve.

Hmmm, won't be muslamic ray-guns that are going off all over the place....

[William the White]

If you still feel aggrieved start a new country... Actually, when you have, invite me to it, I'd love to live there.

You're moving in with Hoboh?

it's a blossoming romance... I think LLS is grooming Hoboh... it started with the Muslim stuff (not subtle, but very effective!)

They could sit on the naughty step and discuss their favourite chapter in the Q'ran...

[Zulus Thousand of em]

I got a thing in the post today about my season ticket. On it was a largish Tudor rose ... Red, with a white inner and another red centre. The flier says "we're back" ... I guess this is part of the rose returning on the badge.

We'll see it soon enough I guess.

If it says 'we' then there's more than one of them.

I reckon the elephants are back!

[Riviman]

One good thing to come out of the QuickQuid sponsorship - no more drums !!

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[coffeymagic]

I'd love to know what our celebrity fans think about this. I mean when they were all getting their noses in the trough they couldn't stop tweeting about #whitehot now they seem fairly quiet.

True fans there.

In the event that me once getting a custard pie in the face from Chris Evans (Piccadilly 261 days) makes me the most famous BWFC fan I'm willing to go on record to say I'm disgusted with the pawing, money grubbing, filty lucre chasing of Wanderers and Quick Quid.

I never liked Bet188 and didn't think it possible for us to sink further into the mire but congrats everyone you proved me wronga.

If I was an entrepreneur I'd be selling plain white iron on patches that you could use to cover up the sponsors logo giving you a 'classic' plain white kit.

I want £4.50 for 100 of the company.

Thank you for listening are there any questions?

[bobo the clown]

I got a thing in the post today about my season ticket. On it was a largish Tudor rose ... Red, with a white inner and another red centre. The flier says "we're back" ... I guess this is part of the rose returning on the badge.

We'll see it soon enough I guess.

If it says 'we' then there's more than one of them.

I reckon the elephants are back!

Hope flies eternal Zulu .... well till Thursday at least ... even when I'm guilty of not reading it properly . It actually says "welcome back". Sorry.