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Eagles role next season

Post by soulfuledge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:27 pm

Looks like DF is bringing Eagles to play off the striker(s) next season, and bring in another winger to take his place... given his stop/start performances I'm not sure putting so much emphasis on him to 'shine' next season is the answer to our problems.

On his day he's a match winner, that's for sure... but playing him in such an important role is definitely a risk.

We can't afford to carry any players next season, it's going to be a tough slog... tougher than this season I'd say with the teams that have come down, with (hopefully) a fit Holden back, alongside Pratley, Medo & Chungy in the midfield, for me we'd be better keeping Eagles on 1 side and putting more emphasis on an out and out goal scorer.

It's about time we got a 20+ goals a season player, rather than everyone bar Bogdan having 3 goals at the end of the season.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Beefheart » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:25 pm

Why do people always want a 20+ goal a season striker? Cardiff and Hull managed automatic promotion without a single player scoring more than 10 goals for either. Both Burnley and Blackburn each had a striker score 20+ goals and where did they end up? It's not about the player that scores the most goals, it's about the team that gets the most points.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by boltonboris » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Eagles will only be there as long as Davies is injured, and as you say, he's a match winner on his day. So it's a no-brainer. That, for me, is his best position and I'm looking forward to seeing him play there on a regular basis. His form dipped when he played on the wing and improved again when he came inside.

I don't it's a risk either, as players who can play in that position are the 'in' thing, so they tend to cost a lot of money.

It does show we're after a winger though.. Which is exciting.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by soulfuledge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:59 pm

Beefheart wrote:Why do people always want a 20+ goal a season striker? Cardiff and Hull managed automatic promotion without a single player scoring more than 10 goals for either. Both Burnley and Blackburn each had a striker score 20+ goals and where did they end up? It's not about the player that scores the most goals, it's about the team that gets the most points.
I'm not saying having one will guarantee you promotion... but I'm sure we wouldn't be gearing up to the new season with championship badges on our sleeves this time out if we'd had 1 last season.

Just looking at all options to hopefully give us the best chance to push on this season.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by boltonboris » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:10 pm

True that.. I appreciate that it's not the be all and end all, but it can be the difference. Somebody to not miss sitters that cost us in draws could've been enough to see us over the line.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by BWFC90 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:44 pm

Didn't we create the most chances or have the most shots in the league or something along those lines?

If we brought in a player who would put a respectable amount of them away it would be huge for us, surely?

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:51 pm

BWFC90 wrote:Didn't we create the most chances or have the most shots in the league or something along those lines?

If we brought in a player who would put a respectable amount of them away it would be huge for us, surely?
I'd rather several players capable of scoring a respectable amount than 1 that can score 20+. If we had only 1, you know he'd get injured for 2-3 years :(

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:21 pm

We need goal scorers. I'll remind you that we lost out on a play off position because of goal difference. S'not rocket science. Score more goals than the opposition, get more points.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by plymouth wanderer » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:24 pm

I'll pop down Tesco's in a bit there BOGOF at the minute
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:36 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:I'll pop down Tesco's in a bit there BOGOF at the minute
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You don't need to buy somebody(or even two). You just need to make sure the fxclers you've got actually score. As I said, s'not rocket science. In fact it's not science.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by CAPSLOCK » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:08 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:We need goal scorers. I'll remind you that we lost out on a play off position because of goal difference. S'not rocket science. Score more goals than the opposition, get more points.
Equally, we missed out cos we conceded 5 at Peterbrough
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by plymouth wanderer » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:11 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:We need goal scorers. I'll remind you that we lost out on a play off position because of goal difference. S'not rocket science. Score more goals than the opposition, get more points.
Equally, we missed out cos we conceded 5 at Peterbrough

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:58 pm

Top man last season. Play him where he is best.

Mark Davies is usually injured; which is a shame. You can rely on Eagles.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:52 am

plymouth wanderer wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:We need goal scorers. I'll remind you that we lost out on a play off position because of goal difference. S'not rocket science. Score more goals than the opposition, get more points.
Equally, we missed out cos we conceded 5 at Peterbrough

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That just demonstrates the importance of scoring goals, if we concede five we need to score ten. Anyway, all teams lose ocassionally, but if you play attacking football you just need a couple of chances to win, whereas if you play defensively it only takes a couple of mistakes to lose. To play defensively properly you need a coordinated set of a minimum of five players all playing to perfection and perfectly in tune with each other, whereas to play offensively you can get away with one or two talented players who don't need to have the same iron discipline a defence does throughout a match. It's obvious which approach gives the better benefits, which is the easiest to train to and which the better long term strategy.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Loyal White » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:56 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:That just demonstrates the importance of scoring goals, if we concede five we need to score ten. Anyway, all teams lose ocassionally, but if you play attacking football you just need a couple of chances to win, whereas if you play defensively it only takes a couple of mistakes to lose. To play defensively properly you need a coordinated set of a minimum of five players all playing to perfection and perfectly in tune with each other, whereas to play offensively you can get away with one or two talented players who don't need to have the same iron discipline a defence does throughout a match. It's obvious which approach gives the better benefits, which is the easiest to train to and which the better long term strategy.
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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:02 am

Errr yes.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by coffeymagic » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:28 am

[quote="Lost Leopard Spot"]We need goal scorers...

I agree, with all the chances we created we had a pretty poor goals:chance ratio. Not after someone who'll score 20 goals but miss 20 open nets we need players who don't dither, lack anticipation or just the willingness to gamble.

I think SCD can be that man. I like the runs he makes, the ball doesn't always come to him but it will and I'd back him to take more chances than any of the others.

Eagles? Should be our best player, could be our best player. I hope he is.

edit - On the subject of goals and goal scorers - see how United fans were moaning about how dull it's been this season? Remember when they used to moan that Andy Cole needed 10 chances to score 1 goal? At least they were making 10 chances in those days.

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Re: Eagles role next season

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:10 am

Loyal White wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:That just demonstrates the importance of scoring goals, if we concede five we need to score ten. Anyway, all teams lose ocassionally, but if you play attacking football you just need a couple of chances to win, whereas if you play defensively it only takes a couple of mistakes to lose. To play defensively properly you need a coordinated set of a minimum of five players all playing to perfection and perfectly in tune with each other, whereas to play offensively you can get away with one or two talented players who don't need to have the same iron discipline a defence does throughout a match. It's obvious which approach gives the better benefits, which is the easiest to train to and which the better long term strategy.
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