The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

[ChrisC]

If Eddie wants to fund it then go for it. I don't see the problem myself. Eddie will decide if he wants to finance a deal for Rhodes and that's fine with me. He is the money man at the club and knows a damn site more than any of us lot.

It's not like we have to borrow the money from the bank to fund the deal.

If we want a top striker (and I read somewhere and the end of last season that Eddie said he would buy a top goalscorer) then Rhodes is the best a club in the Championship can buy. Most top strikers elsewhere in the premiership etc.. are out of reach and won't want to play in this league. Rhodes is the best we can get and is likely to want to sign if we can strike a deal. Make it happen Eddie!

[BWFC_Insane]

All this "I wouldn't pay such and such for a player" or "I wouldn't sell such and such for less than X amount" bores me to tears.. How do YOU know what that player is worth? Without knowing exactly the terms of the contract, the managers plans, the potential sell on etc. We don't know any of those things and quite honestly, I don't give a shit either. I support Bolton Wanderers. I don't work for them, I don't have a financial interest in them other than my ticket price. I just want to see the best players we can afford. If we can't afford them, we don't get them.

The modern know it all boardroom ITK fan is a bit of a boring c*nt

But it's not just a financial argument.

Signing one player on a huge fee, limits what we can do elsewhere. That comes down to judgement of whether it's the right signing or not.

To say cost isn't a factor fans should care about is a bit naive. We've seen over the past few years the footballing cost of having a load of overpriced, overpaid losers signed. And not having the money to replace them. I think it is a valid discussion.

[Bijou Bob]

If we had £9 million, I'd like to think we'd have agreed to pay Anelka 60 grand a week for 2 years and saved the 3 million quid we could end up spunking on a one season wonder.

[ChrisC]

I called the Moritz thing about a week ago

WANDERERS have two wing targets in their sights – with moves in the offing for Newcastle United’s Sammy Ameobi and ex-Crystal Palace star Andre Moritz.

Dougie Freedman is anxious to improve his attacking options and has lined up a six-month loan move for England Under-21 wide man Ameobi.

But the Wanderers boss also revealed to The Bolton News he is considering a potentially cheaper deal for his former Selhurst Park charge Moritz, who recently turned down a chance to stay with the Eagles in the Premier League.


The free agent, who has played top-flight football in Brazil and Turkey, wants to stay in England and has a couple of offers on the table.

Freedman also has different names up his sleeve and could yet explore other options, depending on the budget he is given, but speaking from Wanderers’ training camp in Spain, he admitted the 26-year-old was a name on his shortlist.

“It is something we are looking at,” he said. “I’ve worked with him before and with it being a free transfer, if it was also an acceptable wage, then it might be something we can do.”

Ameobi spent three months on loan with Middlesbrough last season, where he scored on debut against Cardiff and made nine appearances, including a start at the Reebok in Boro’s 2-1 defeat in April. He also has 27 games under his belt with Newcastle, including 14 last season at the height of Alan Pardew’s injury crisis.


Ameobi was left out of the England U21 squad this summer and had been due to train with Newcastle over the next couple of weeks.

Sources in the North East claim a deal could be pushed through in time for Ameobi to feature in the Whites’ opening day clash with Burnley. But with Freedman currently looking to secure finances for a couple of deals, it appears he would first prefer to make a decision on a permanent deal for Moritz.

The Brazilian playmaker made a surprising exit at Palace a couple of weeks ago after looking set to sign a new deal for Ian Holloway’s newly-promoted team.

Sources close to the player claim the former Fluminense and Kayserispor man decided to leave Selhurst Park because he did not feel the tactical system Holloway was preparing to use in the Premier League would give him enough opportunities.

Moritz can play either side of a main striker but has spent most of his career as a “number 10” – a position Freedman has hinted could be earmarked for Chris Eagles.

[boltonboris]

Naive? feck off you condescending tit. It's common knowledge that the money is there for a striker who's proven capable of scoring goals. They have more sell on value, they're an asset. So it doesn't matter "what we can do elsewhere" because the money is ONLY there for a striker. If we don't sign one, he's not going to have millions to spend on other areas. So what skin is it off your nose then?#

So it's a striker, or nothing. Would you rather have nothing? Because that's so unambitious, tedious and boring that I'd question wether I was doing the right thing in actually bothering going.

[boltonboris]

Get Moritz out, get Moritz out, geeeet Moritz out for the lads

[BWFC_Insane]

Naive? feck off you condescending tit. It's common knowledge that the money is there for a striker who's proven capable of scoring goals. They have more sell on value, they're an asset. So it doesn't matter "what we can do elsewhere" because the money is ONLY there for a striker. If we don't sign one, he's not going to have millions to spend on other areas. So what skin is it off your nose then?#

So it's a striker, or nothing. Would you rather have nothing? Because that's so unambitious, tedious and boring that I'd question wether I was doing the right thing in actually bothering going.

I don't think what we are or aren't going to spend money on is "common knowledge". There is confusion surrounding whether Rhodes is a serious target or not. And confusion over whether that money is available to buy him or not.

But even if that was the case we've got the budget we have and we aren't going to be able to spend it twice. There would be little point in this thread if potential transfers weren't up for debate. If we take the cost factor out then it becomes a bit pointless. Who wouldn't take Rhodes for £4M? But if he costs £14M then I suspect many would pass. It is relevant to the risk/reward of buying a player. And perhaps you couldn't care less how much they cost that is fine. I happen to think it is a factor though.

[Bijou Bob]

Get Moritz out, get Moritz out, geeeet Moritz out for the lads

[boltonboris]

And perhaps you couldn't care less how much they cost that is fine. I happen to think it is a factor though.

What I'm saying, is that it makes no difference to me or you. None at all

[BWFC_Insane]

And perhaps you couldn't care less how much they cost that is fine. I happen to think it is a factor though.

What I'm saying, is that it makes no difference to me or you. None at all

It depends. It makes a difference to the future of the club. For example being saddled with Knight for a £4M fee on a big contract has surely made a difference to whether we've been able to sign a better player or not?

[TANGODANCER]

And perhaps you couldn't care less how much they cost that is fine. I happen to think it is a factor though.

What I'm saying, is that it makes no difference to me or you. None at all

It depends. It makes a difference to the future of the club. For example being saddled with Knight for a £4M fee on a big contract has surely made a difference to whether we've been able to sign a better player or not?

Hate to be the one to shatter your dream mate, but there is no Father Christmas (ie perfect world). Everybody does the best they can and hope it all pans out in the long run. If your cookies crumble into eight perfectly matched pieces, good on you. I usually get three uneven lumps and a pile of crumbs.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Hate to be the one to shatter your dream mate, but there is no Father Christmas

There is so. Goes by the name of Eddie (although he seems to have put his sack into semi-retirement).

[plymouth wanderer]

All this "I wouldn't pay such and such for a player" or "I wouldn't sell such and such for less than X amount" bores me to tears.. How do YOU know what that player is worth? Without knowing exactly the terms of the contract, the managers plans, the potential sell on etc. We don't know any of those things and quite honestly, I don't give a shit either. I support Bolton Wanderers. I don't work for them, I don't have a financial interest in them other than my ticket price. I just want to see the best players we can afford. If we can't afford them, we don't get them.

The modern know it all boardroom ITK fan is a bit of a boring c*nt

Sometimes you talk shit

But that is probably one of the posts i have read on this forum

If Eddie can afford it then why not

[LeverEnd]

Far too many modern fans get too obsessed with club finances, gets to the point where they start saying rubbish like they'd rather finish 17th in the Prem every year than win a cup etc etc, 'because of the finances'.
The club is being run sensibly enough from my outside perspective. And that's the only perspective I want. If we had Venkys in charge I might take more interest but we don't, nothing like it.

[plymouth wanderer]

Get Moritz out, get Moritz out, geeeet Moritz out for the lads

You just got that of ov a Moritz Youtube clip

[mrkint]

Hang on, we shouldn't be hasty. Let's judge him on his Moritz.

[Athers]

Far too many modern fans get too obsessed with club finances, gets to the point where they start saying rubbish like they'd rather finish 17th in the Prem every year than win a cup etc etc, 'because of the finances'.
The club is being run sensibly enough from my outside perspective. And that's the only perspective I want. If we had Venkys in charge I might take more interest but we don't, nothing like it.

Of course the 'net spend' wars are quite tedious but that's the game we live in when some clubs are so out of balance with each other.

I think some of the interest is caused by Portsmouth etc. which is a bit more valid. If I were a Coventry fan for instance I'd be concerned about the club's books right now.

I suppose it's based on that only fans could hold irresponsible owners to account, but the reality is that short of a mass boycott, which in England we are terrible at doing, they can do nothing until the club's fecked and requires a Supporters' Trust to buy it! Certainly buying a Norwich scarf didn't do anything.

[r0ckpaperscissors]

Not that excited by Moritz. Palace fans seem to suggest that he's ok but nothing special, turns up only a bit of the time, and generally doesn't suit life in the Championship. Add that to 'Bambi on Ice' Ameobi and I can think of many other names I'd rather be linked with.

[boltonboris]

You're wrong. Freedman wants him, so that means he's a magnificent signing and a genuine "solid Championship player" whatever that means (I think it means not good enough to play a higher level)

[boltonboris]

In all honesty, from numerous palace fans on Twitter, he seems to be very good good at delivering set pieces from wide areas, but offers the best part of feck all from open play.

I'd never heard of him before we were linked, but I'm sure loads of our fans will have seen him play loads of time and can tell us exactly what to expect. Or should I say, loads of our fans will lie.