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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:34 pm

Wasn't it Birmingham between Christmas and New Year? A few minutes after he got beasted by that coward Zigic?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:37 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie said that NGog's hero is Thierry Henry so he sometimes tries to finish like him rather than putting his foot through it. They are working on his finishing. From what Dougie said last night I get the impression he sees NGog as our "best" attacking player. Or certainly the one with the most ability and potential.
Oh yeah, I rate him (admittedly not as highly as some people) as he definitely has potential. If we can get him finishing more consistently he could be the best striker we've had in quite a number of years and very prolific at this level.

I'm slightly pessimistic whether he actually will though as even in an "easier" league, he's still struggling to find the net often enough or improve noticeably. He seems to get into the right positions but just...choke at the last minute. I don't think he's mentally strong enough to ever become more than a "link-up player" who scores the odd goal, but I hope he proves me wrong and shows that he can be an all round striker.

I look forward to seeing him partnered with Beckford, or even Sordell if he's got his attitude and commitment sorted.
To be fair I think even Dougie sees him as a behind the striker type rather than an out and out goalscorer.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:41 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie said that NGog's hero is Thierry Henry so he sometimes tries *1 to finish like him rather than putting his foot through it. They are working on his finishing*2. From what Dougie said last night I get the impression he sees NGog as our "best"*3 attacking player. Or certainly the one with the most ability and potential.
I thought I'd translate this into the new, brutally frank, Dougie speak.
*1 attempts, rather pathetically, on nearly every single occasion
*2 building his strength, stamina and speed such that he will no longer be limp ankled when it comes to hoofing the ball, nor limp wristed when he meets Pru down the chippy
*3 the most expensive, and therefore, boy, had he better pull his finger out.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:43 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Dougie said that NGog's hero is Thierry Henry so he sometimes tries *1 to finish like him rather than putting his foot through it. They are working on his finishing*2. From what Dougie said last night I get the impression he sees NGog as our "best"*3 attacking player. Or certainly the one with the most ability and potential.
I thought I'd translate this into the new, brutally frank, Dougie speak.
*1 attempts, rather pathetically, on nearly every single occasion
*2 building his strength, stamina and speed such that he will no longer be limp ankled when it comes to hoofing the ball, nor limp wristed when he meets Pru down the chippy
*3 the most expensive, and therefore, boy, had he better pull his finger out.
Nope there is a lot of NGog Freedman man love going on.

As BoltonBoris mentioned it is clear who he wants and doesn't want in this squad.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Oh :(
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:51 pm

Oh and analysis - they are collecting masses of data from every training session and match for our players and using it to analyse performance and see if they can spot trends that lead to injuries.

We have employed (presumably on a part time basis) lots of professionals such as nutritionists, psychologists, soft tissue masseurs etc

Lot of work goes into how to get the best out of individual players, with individual training programmes and also working out the optimal way to feed information to each player as they all learn differently. So some need video instruction, some one to one advice etc.

Definitely sounds like we are working towards leading the way in these areas once again. Which is encouraging.

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Post by thebish » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:54 pm

are we doing any kicking the ball into the net practice? :wink:

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:59 pm

Very good of him to finish off with a rendition of My Coo Ca Choo as well, I think :mrgreen:

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Post by thebish » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:01 pm

does dougie use some kind of anti-greying hair product?

and is his family safe now?

those are the questions i would have asked...

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:03 pm

thebish wrote:does dougie use some kind of anti-greying hair product?
and is his family safe now?
those are the questions i would have asked...
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:03 pm

He did get asked who in the squad was best at ping pong.....

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:06 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:He did get asked who in the squad was best at ping pong.....
and the answer was? don't tease me and keep me in suspense [Lonergan, I bet it was Lonergan]
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:08 pm

boltonboris wrote:He never mentioned Marvin once when he was talking about forwards. Methinks his time is up.
Interesting, cheers. Did he mention Eaves? C Davies? Sorry to drag you through the squad list but as you say, a mention means a lot.

I'm intrigued (and hopeful) to see Ngog behind Beckford. Call it 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, but if you're playing split strikers (hence 'behind') and have attack-minded wide men then there's only hair-splitting difference between that and 4-2-3-1 anyway... the importance is having different options in the positions. If he sees Ngog as deeper than a front man I kind of understand his desire to still bring in another forward - which obviously means shipping some out. And Ngog would offer a third "between the lines" option, with Eagles and Mark Davies, so we shouldn't lack for creative options.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:10 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote:He did get asked who in the squad was best at ping pong.....
and the answer was? don't tease me and keep me in suspense [Lonergan, I bet it was Lonergan]
Well the full question was "we all have heard the rumours about the previous manager's training regime so could you tell us who is the best at ping pong?"

Dougie laughed and said as he wasn't here at the time Brian (Prestidge) would have to answer. But he didn't answer as they wrapped up the event there.

Earlier Dougie had been asked who he thought would challenge for promotion (along with ourselves) and when he mentioned Wigan would be strong but might take a while to adapt he also said "and I'm sure Owen will want to do better after last season" or something like that, but anyhow the point is the name "Owen" was met with boos from the audience!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:12 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He never mentioned Marvin once when he was talking about forwards. Methinks his time is up.
Interesting, cheers. Did he mention Eaves? C Davies? Sorry to drag you through the squad list but as you say, a mention means a lot.

I'm intrigued (and hopeful) to see Ngog behind Beckford. Call it 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, but if you're playing split strikers (hence 'behind') and have attack-minded wide men then there's only hair-splitting difference between that and 4-2-3-1 anyway... the importance is having different options in the positions. If he sees Ngog as deeper than a front man I kind of understand his desire to still bring in another forward - which obviously means shipping some out. And Ngog would offer a third "between the lines" option, with Eagles and Mark Davies, so we shouldn't lack for creative options.
He mentioned Eaves as one of 4 young players who could make a "small" impact this season (Vela, Eaves, Clough, Odelusi). None are up to playing "many" games yet in his opinion.

He didn't mention Craig Davies from what I remember.

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Post by mrkint » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:13 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:but anyhow the point is the name "Owen" was met with boos from the audience!
just warming up the old vocal chords :)
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Post by thebish » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:13 pm

the cravies to wolves thing - is that still on?

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Post by ChrisC » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:17 pm

thebish wrote:the cravies to wolves thing - is that still on?

If you are a Nixon believer then they have yet to follow up with an offer and are also looking elsewhere. Blackburn are in for him now also.

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Post by thebish » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:18 pm

ChrisC wrote:
thebish wrote:the cravies to wolves thing - is that still on?

If you are a Nixon believer then they have yet to follow up with an offer and are also looking elsewhere. Blackburn are in for him now also.

oooooh - bidding war!! can we swap him for Rhodes-plus-cash?

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:19 pm

ChrisC wrote:
thebish wrote:the cravies to wolves thing - is that still on?

If you are a Nixon believer then they have yet to follow up with an offer and are also looking elsewhere. Blackburn are in for him now also.
What about his plastic Kestrel? :?
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