The Politics Thread

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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Athers » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:04 pm

It's a relief to see Tameside hospital getting the panning, and more importantly some action, it deserves. Were a few medics at the BBQ on Saturday and every one said it's an absolute disgrace.

Liverpool Care Pathway a bit more difficult though - Said friends are all in favour, and it makes sense to me, but the execution of it sounds appalling in some places.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:47 pm

Athers wrote:Liverpool Care Pathway a bit more difficult though - Said friends are all in favour, and it makes sense to me, but the execution of it sounds appalling in some places.
I have to say ... the principle seems correct. How it's run needs some controls but until we bite the bullet of having a way to ending the suffering of loved ones who are past cure, support and desire it's all that exists (officially),
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:15 pm

mrkint wrote:In your face, EVIDENCE, I'm just going to make up my own magical world!

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... ve-be-true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IDS essentially just saying 'yeah but i think it's right so there you go'
Let's have a little bit of order here. What has been said here is not that there is evidence that contradicts IDS, but rather that there is a lack of evidence in this area.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:36 pm

Have a read of this if you fancy a bit of clear, intelligent commentary from one of my uni mates on what our financial system does badly, what it does well, and what the prospects are for it doing things better (he has worked for a couple of investment banks).

http://leftwinghamster.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... -pt-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:16 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Have a read of this if you fancy a bit of clear, intelligent commentary from one of my uni mates on what our financial system does badly, what it does well, and what the prospects are for it doing things better (he has worked for a couple of investment banks).

http://leftwinghamster.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... -pt-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:shock: You hung around with left-wing friends at uni?????
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:49 pm

the nhs continues to be broken up and sold off to the highest bidders...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... eepen-deal

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:12 pm

thebish wrote:the nhs continues to be broken up and sold off to the highest bidders...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... eepen-deal
That doesn't seem like a very good idea, even I can work that out.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:54 am

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Have a read of this if you fancy a bit of clear, intelligent commentary from one of my uni mates on what our financial system does badly, what it does well, and what the prospects are for it doing things better (he has worked for a couple of investment banks).

http://leftwinghamster.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... -pt-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:shock: You hung around with left-wing friends at uni?????
Oh yes - I always get on far better with the enthusiastically wrong than the apathetic.

This guy self-defines as 'left wing', but in his case I'm not sure the label applies as it is usually understood.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Athers » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:37 am

Part 2 is up I notice. Enjoying them.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:47 am

Athers wrote:Part 2 is up I notice. Enjoying them.
http://leftwinghamster.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... -pt-2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Me too.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:58 pm

it all stinks a bit...

One of David Cameron's senior advisers is leaving Downing Street to become a lobbyist for Wonga, the controversial payday lender.

A spokesman for Wonga confirmed that Mr Luff will join the company to lead its "government affairs" team. On his Twitter account yesterday, Mr Luff posted: "Home. What an extraordinary week. Huge thanks to friends both old and new. #onwards"

Earlier this month the Daily Telegraph revealed that Conservative ministers agreed to hold meetings with Wonga at the Tory party conference in exchange for payments to the party.

Business executives were charged £1,250 for face-to-face meetings with ministers at which they were invited to help “develop” business-friendly policies in sessions likened to 'speed dating'.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bwfcdan94 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:39 pm

How to p*ss off the people of the North East.http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07 ... d%3D198187
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:28 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:How to p*ss off the people of the North East.http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07 ... d%3D198187
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:49 pm

Daniel Hannan ‏had this to say (Tweet)

For 30 years, Lefties complained that we'd stopped extracting fossil fuels in the north. Now they're cross because we want to start again.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:31 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Daniel Hannan ‏had this to say (Tweet)

For 30 years, Lefties complained that we'd stopped extracting fossil fuels in the north. Now they're cross because we want to start again.

Fair point.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:13 am

Is it fook. It's a half thought-out typically trite 'twitter' response. This is how people communicate now, bollocks soundbites.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:17 am

Prufrock wrote:Is it fook. It's a half thought-out typically trite 'twitter' response. This is how people communicate now, bollocks soundbites.
It's true. I remember the good old days when you'd never post a few words when a densely-formatted essay would do. :D
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:21 am

Prufrock wrote:Is it fook. It's a half thought-out typically trite 'twitter' response. This is how people communicate now, bollocks soundbites.
So - it isn't a fair point because of the way it's been communicated? Go on, the floor's yours.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Athers » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:36 am

Either way, few things rile northerners more than being told their area isn't great by a southerner!

Remember that hoo-ha when a think tank suggested people migrate from Liverpool and elsewhere to the London-Oxford-Cambridge triangle as there are more modern tech businesses and airports, good Lord. :lol:
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