Don't tell Dougie - It's nostalgia!

[Lord Kangana]

News to me. I think I've referred to Reid as a dinosaur or somesuch, but having been brought up on my dad's tales of Reidy, I don't think I'd ever call him a c*nt. Unlike Megson, who I would. Sorry, its a bit like tourettes when his name is mentioned.

[BWFC_Insane]

News to me. I think I've referred to Reid as a dinosaur or somesuch, but having been brought up on my dad's tales of Reidy, I don't think I'd ever call him a c*nt. Unlike Megson, who I would. Sorry, its a bit like tourettes when his name is mentioned.

He was a manager you frequently used as a reason why not to sack Coyle.

Anyhow I met Todd a few times. Really nice bloke, totally and utterly out of his depth.

[thebish]

Shit managers don't assemble teams that gain 98 points in a season.

A manager who you frequently used as an example of a "shit manager" and someone who you thought was "worse than even Coyle" (and a therefore reason NOT to sack Coyle) managed 105 points a few years later........

If you're referring to the Ginger Hatchet man, I think you willfind that I simply thought he was a total c*nt. And the reason I'll always prefer Coyle is because he isn't Megson.

Surely he can't be referring to Megson. How could a team of his tot up 105 points in a season?

Sunderland got 105 in 98/99 under Peter Reid.

it can't be Peter Reid - because LK has never called him a "shit manager" nor has LK ever called Reid "worse than even Coyle"... he has been uncomplimentary, but has never gone that far.. the search goes on...

[Bruce Rioja]

I met Todd a few times. Really nice bloke, totally and utterly out of his depth.

An absolutely superb coach, I'm told by one that was there, but a terrible man-manager. Unlike Rioch, who was the exact opposite, knew it, and kept well out of the coaching side of it.

[bwfcdan94]

News to me. I think I've referred to Reid as a dinosaur or somesuch, but having been brought up on my dad's tales of Reidy, I don't think I'd ever call him a c*nt. Unlike Megson, who I would. Sorry, its a bit like tourettes when his name is mentioned.

Maybe you could get Megson tinnitus as a cure for Megson Tourette's.

[Lord Kangana]

That wouldn't be very nice!

And Bruce, as I recall quite few of our North East signings were aware of Toddy's ability as a coach - as I recall Peter Beardsley reco'd Tomo to come here for his coaching. It was a pity he couldn't keep or replace Porterfield. Or indeed for us to keep Rioch with him. But that's football.

[BWFC_Insane]

I met Todd a few times. Really nice bloke, totally and utterly out of his depth.

An absolutely superb coach, I'm told by one that was there, but a terrible man-manager. Unlike Rioch, who was the exact opposite, knew it, and kept well out of the coaching side of it.

Aye I reckon he was a great coach. And he clearly knew how to pick out a player. But he was Taylor to Rioch's Clough.

[Loyal White]

Just rewind a bit...

...he [Todd] will always be the manager who pitted Curcic and Sellars against Keane and Butt.

What would you have done? Curcic was the best player at the club by a country mile and Sellers was a more than able pro.

This was Manchester United we were playing here.

Branagan, Green, Coleman, Fairclough, Phillips, Curcic, Sellars, Thompson, Blake, Lee and Daffy De Freitas.

Versus. (Eventual champions for the how many'th time?)

Schmeichel, P Neville, Irwin, Bruce, Pallister, Beckham, Butt, Keane, Cole, Cantona, Giggs.

I can't remember who wasn/wasn't injured but who would you have replaced Tomo, Lee, Sellars and Curcic with? Andy Todd? Gerry Taggart? Was McAteer still at the club?

Whoever Todd would have picked that day would have been on the losing side. Would it have been different if that early (only) effort from Sasa not rattled the bar? Yeah, it would have been 1-6.

On ability Curcic and Sellars were probably the two most gifted players we had at the time. My point is that were both weak as piss.

Like you I cant remember injuries etc, but during that season we had played Andy Todd, Fairclough, Mark Patterson and even Scott Green in midfield. Less ability? No doubt, but at least we would have had the slightest potential to win the ball back.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

And Bruce, as I recall quite few of our North East signings were aware of Toddy's ability as a coach - as I recall Peter Beardsley reco'd Tomo to come here for his coaching. It was a pity he couldn't keep or replace Porterfield. Or indeed for us to keep Rioch with him. But that's football.

How would Beardo know about Toddy's coaching, chum?

We replaced Porterfield with Browny - not a poor coach but young and probably deferred to Todd; fine when things are going well but not in the bad times. Idealistic manager needing experienced coach... Hmmm...

[Lord Kangana]

That news comes from a friend in the north east from many moons ago. Toddy being a Mackem is well known, and highly regarded, in those parts - at the time Tomo was recovering from that bad accident that a few of that young talented group from Newcastle were involved in (I forget the exact names, but wasn't Robbie Elliot also part of the group?). Anyhoos, Tomo had a few offers, but, so the story went from said source that Beardsley (newly back in Newcastle's squad) recommended The Wanderers to him because of the double act of Rioch and Todd - Bruce (already known as The Sergeant Major wasn't he?) for keeping young players on the straight and narrow and Toddy being, ahem, good at coaching the young 'uns.

If you're asking for concrete evidence, I have none to hand, but I recall a repetition of the story somewhere or other in an old programme or somesuch.

[coffeymagic]

[quote="Dave Sutton's barnet Fanzines, eh? Might have to explain it to some of our younger viewers.[/quote]

I was actually thinking a bit back that there must be a market for Fanzines. I know it's all about the intornets these days but I reckon there's still people who'd like to actually pick something up to flick through in the pub, at half time or on the bus on the way home.

And to keep for ever in a tin in the loft just in case.....

[thebish]

I have a vague and distant memory that a few years ago there was a paper publication of he best bits of TW handed out before a game as a kind of advert for the site... it included one of the TW Spy's pieces and a couple of the articles from the front page IIRC...

[coffeymagic]

It was always hard trying to be topical. Even in the old days 4 weeks was a long time in football and our front covers (which had to be the first thing to get cracking on) we always out of date by the time the mag came out forcing last minute caption alterations or hastily scribbled rewrites.

Match reports? Nah, wouldn't bother with them but a mag that contained opinion and editorial plus the derranged views of facebookers and tweeters might still have a niche.

Where did I put my Letraset?

[Lord Kangana]

Why didn't you just do the front covers last?

[coffeymagic]

Why didn't you just do the front covers last?

They were works of art mate.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

That news comes from a friend in the north east from many moons ago. Toddy being a Mackem is well known, and highly regarded, in those parts - at the time Tomo was recovering from that bad accident that a few of that young talented group from Newcastle were involved in (I forget the exact names, but wasn't Robbie Elliot also part of the group?). Anyhoos, Tomo had a few offers, but, so the story went from said source that Beardsley (newly back in Newcastle's squad) recommended The Wanderers to him because of the double act of Rioch and Todd - Bruce (already known as The Sergeant Major wasn't he?) for keeping young players on the straight and narrow and Toddy being, ahem, good at coaching the young 'uns.

If you're asking for concrete evidence, I have none to hand, but I recall a repetition of the story somewhere or other in an old programme or somesuch.

Fair enough - just wondered how their paths had crossed.

Coffey - it's a money-pit. Folks get things free now. I still remember those covers though - Knighton Rider...

[coffeymagic]

DSB - Twas ever thus eh?

Still nice while it lasted. I think we can all agree that the best was Wanderers Worldwide although our 'Guide to Burnden Park' and our 'MAD' style Wembley/Toilet 'fold-in' was up there with anything.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Still regularly think of that Guide to Burnden - Irritating Kids Who Just Kick Cans All Game, Annoyingly Massive Sun That Just Refuses To Set etc

You got any? Scan the buggers in! #nostalgia #notforyoudougie

[bwfcdan94]

It was always hard trying to be topical. Even in the old days 4 weeks was a long time in football and our front covers (which had to be the first thing to get cracking on) we always out of date by the time the mag came out forcing last minute caption alterations or hastily scribbled rewrites.

Match reports? Nah, wouldn't bother with them but a mag that contained opinion and editorial plus the derranged views of facebookers and tweeters might still have a niche and Dan

Where did I put my Letraset?

[coffeymagic]

I have made a rod for my own back haven't I?

I think when I made my point about spilling and punctuashun I absolved the odd 'typo' on message boards and texts messages.

However if I was going to put something out officially then I wouldn't do so until every word was checked and double checked.

Although I might not have said that at the time.

Spelling?

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