Why do we always...

[r0ckpaperscissors]

Why do we always let people leave without giving them a proper sending off?

Keith Andrews has been complaining to the BBC today about how he wasn't even phoned to say goodbye.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23667034

Now i know he never really set the world on fire here, but thinking about all the other players who have complained about this I just don't understand what is going wrong. Pederson, Stelios, Campo...all of them shown the door without even so much as a goodbye.

Mystifying!

[Bruce Rioja]

Awww diddums

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

No, it's a poor do that. Dougie should be phoning him and explaining his reasons. Don't needlessly piss people off - in five years Andrews might be managing a player Freedman wants to sign...

[r0ckpaperscissors]

I just think it's something we all too frequently do badly as a club.

[BWFC_Insane]

No, it's a poor do that. Dougie should be phoning him and explaining his reasons. Don't needlessly piss people off - in five years Andrews might be managing a player Freedman wants to sign...

Someone must have phoned him to tell him to get himself down to Brighton?

[SmokinFrazier]

No, it's a poor do that. Dougie should be phoning him and explaining his reasons. Don't needlessly piss people off - in five years Andrews might be managing a player Freedman wants to sign...

Someone must have phoned him to tell him to get himself down to Brighton?

Presumably his agent, who would have negotiated everything for Andrews.

I agree that it's quite disrespectful. It's not necessary or anything like that, but surely it's just simple good manners to thank someone, wish them the best etc.? There's a right and wrong way to do things and it seems that too often we end up pissing players off when they leave. When people like Davies and Andrews complain about the way they've been handled, it's hardly likely to impress people who are considering joining the club.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

If you mean Kevin Davies, that's a different matter. You're right that it doesn't help, though – although in terms of getting players to come to the club, I doubt many have turned down a signing-on fee because they fear they might not get a Sorry You're Leaving card at the end.

[Bruce Rioja]

When people like Davies and Andrews complain about the way they've been handled, it's hardly likely to impress people who are considering joining the club.

Have a word with yourself. 'Noooo, I'm not joining them in case I don't get an all-the-best phonecall when I leave".

[BWFC_Insane]

Seems Allardyce did the same when he was here to far bigger characters at the club, see Pedersens comments in a different thread.

Trouble is with all this is you only have one side of the story and you don't know how much it is just the player being bitter at having to leave.

Kevin Davies was informed of the decision though, he has said himself. So I don't see how in any way that is similar. The only disrespect shown there has been from Davies and his wife towards the club that reportedly paid them £10M over the years.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Seems Allardyce did the same when he was here to far bigger characters at the club, see Pedersens comments in a different thread.

Trouble is with all this is you only have one side of the story and you don't know how much it is just the player being bitter at having to leave.

Kevin Davies was informed of the decision though, he has said himself. So I don't see how in any way that is similar. The only disrespect shown there has been from Davies and his wife towards the club that reportedly paid them £10M over the years.

Did he, show disrespect? He, in his own mind, felt hurt, and he possibly expressed his feelings in a way that were unlikely to engender sympathy from the average Bolton supporter, but saying he showed disrespect seems a tad overblown.

[Gravedigger]

Pay me a couple of tens of thousands of squids a week and you can tell me to feck off at the end of my contract.

[Athers]

I can see his point at being suddenly shipped off after playing pre-season and the first game, and of course no-one likes to realise that we've preferred to buy someone else rather than play him.

However, Andrews is still our player so it's not a goodbye.

[Lord Kangana]

No, it's a poor do that. Dougie should be phoning him and explaining his reasons. Don't needlessly piss people off - in five years Andrews might be managing a player Freedman wants to sign...

I agree. Theres no point in needlessly getting people's backs up. Not only for your reasons, but players (I'm sure like every other profession) talk to each other. Even if his time here was good, ending on a sour note can change that players perception of the club, and the light he will paint it in in the future to others. We have got form for this, I'm sure a 5 minute call wouldn't damage the overdraft or put a strain on the management's available time.

[Lord Kangana]

Seems Allardyce did the same when he was here to far bigger characters at the club, see Pedersens comments in a different thread.

Trouble is with all this is you only have one side of the story and you don't know how much it is just the player being bitter at having to leave.

Kevin Davies was informed of the decision though, he has said himself. So I don't see how in any way that is similar. The only disrespect shown there has been from Davies and his wife towards the club that reportedly paid them £10M over the years.

Nothing like a good bit of BWFCi hyperbole to get a thread going.

[BWFC_Insane]

Seems Allardyce did the same when he was here to far bigger characters at the club, see Pedersens comments in a different thread.

Trouble is with all this is you only have one side of the story and you don't know how much it is just the player being bitter at having to leave.

Kevin Davies was informed of the decision though, he has said himself. So I don't see how in any way that is similar. The only disrespect shown there has been from Davies and his wife towards the club that reportedly paid them £10M over the years.

Nothing like a good bit of BWFCi hyperbole to get a thread going.

I wonder if his kids can sleep at night yet?

[Lord Kangana]

He reads your posts to them.

[StaffsTrotter]

No, it's a poor do that. Dougie should be phoning him and explaining his reasons. Don't needlessly piss people off - in five years Andrews might be managing a player Freedman wants to sign...

I agree. Theres no point in needlessly getting people's backs up. Not only for your reasons, but players (I'm sure like every other profession) talk to each other. Even if his time here was good, ending on a sour note can change that players perception of the club, and the light he will paint it in in the future to others. We have got form for this, I'm sure a 5 minute call wouldn't damage the overdraft or put a strain on the management's available time.

Agreed.

Don't understand the attitude of, players are paid a lot of money so they can be treated like shit.
If one of our selling points as a club to players is our tight knit, friendly atmosphere, it doesn't help really does it

[89bwfc89]

He's only gone for a season on loan. He needs to get a grip. Rather than whining to the media, maybe he should have picked up the phone to Dougie himself.

[Lord Kangana]

Therein lies the problem. His whining or otherwise may be difficult to defend, on the other hand if Douglas, or any other representative of the club had "just picked up the phone" themselves, the whole issue could have been circumvented. Its in our interests, you understand, to do this, its not Keith Andrews I'm thinking of.

[89bwfc89]

I can see your point of view LK. As Athers said though, he's still our player, so no goodbye needed, I'm fairly sure there would have been communication with him about going on loan as he was spotted down there last week at some point.