creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

[Bruce Rioja]

Has our boy had another go?

[thebish]

Has our boy had another go?

not yet... anderson off after only 4 overs - and woakes is on...

[thebish]

go trotty!!

[TANGODANCER]

Hoping our batting is as good as theirs. They're about to pass 400 with 4 wickets left.

[thebish]

kind of odd that we have switched to a five-man bowling attack (summat BWFCi used to call for) - but we have only seen three of them today and have already bowled Trott...

if we are blooding new bowlers - then we have to bowl them - if we are not gonna bowl them - then we should have included tremlett and just gone with the four... or gone for monty and tremlett and told the top order batsmen that the responsibility was well and truly theirs this time...

[Montreal Wanderer]

Hoping our batting is as good as theirs. They're about to pass 400 with 4 wickets left.

If they take practically two days to score 450 odd it begins to look like a draw unless the weather affects the wicket dramatically. Winning the toss is a huge advantage when two teams are equal IMHO. I think the home side should choose what they want in tests 1, 3 and 5, while the visitors choose in tests 2 and 4. Otherwise it seems so random.

[thebish]

if the oz are serious about this - they'd have declared by now....

[mrkint]

Has Kerrigan even bowled today? How demoralising is that!

[BWFC_Insane]

kind of odd that we have switched to a five-man bowling attack (summat BWFCi used to call for) - but we have only seen three of them today and have already bowled Trott...

if we are blooding new bowlers - then we have to bowl them - if we are not gonna bowl them - then we should have included tremlett and just gone with the four... or gone for monty and tremlett and told the top order batsmen that the responsibility was well and truly theirs this time...

I think what I called for was tactical flexibility.

Always going with 4 bowlers, no matter what isn't right.

I've been happy with 4 bowlers this summer though.

Experiment was worth a go, but clearly the two lads are a way off test standard bowling.

Panesar though could hardly be picked could he? After his latest indiscretion?

[thebish]

kind of odd that we have switched to a five-man bowling attack (summat BWFCi used to call for) - but we have only seen three of them today and have already bowled Trott...

if we are blooding new bowlers - then we have to bowl them - if we are not gonna bowl them - then we should have included tremlett and just gone with the four... or gone for monty and tremlett and told the top order batsmen that the responsibility was well and truly theirs this time...

I think what I called for was tactical flexibility.

Always going with 4 bowlers, no matter what isn't right.

I've been happy with 4 bowlers this summer though.

Experiment was worth a go, but clearly the two lads are a way off test standard bowling.

Panesar though could hardly be picked could he? After his latest indiscretion?

as for monty - i don't really see why he couldn't be picked...

[thebish]

Has Kerrigan even bowled today? How demoralising is that!

aye - that's what i mean.. if the idea was to take the risk and blood new bowlers, they really needed to give him chance to redeem himself today - and what they've said is - we'd rather bowl trott even though you were fit and ready to go...

[BWFC_Insane]

kind of odd that we have switched to a five-man bowling attack (summat BWFCi used to call for) - but we have only seen three of them today and have already bowled Trott...

if we are blooding new bowlers - then we have to bowl them - if we are not gonna bowl them - then we should have included tremlett and just gone with the four... or gone for monty and tremlett and told the top order batsmen that the responsibility was well and truly theirs this time...

I think what I called for was tactical flexibility.

Always going with 4 bowlers, no matter what isn't right.

I've been happy with 4 bowlers this summer though.

Experiment was worth a go, but clearly the two lads are a way off test standard bowling.

Panesar though could hardly be picked could he? After his latest indiscretion?

as for monty - i don't really see why he couldn't be picked...

I don't think it would send a good message picking a player for England who has been sacked by his county this very week for off the field activities.

Just personal view.

[thebish]

I don't think it would send a good message picking a player for England who has been sacked by his county this very week for off the field activities.

Just personal view.

i think this whole role-model stuff is a bag of bollocks. He's a free man - he's paid his fine - he's available - if he's worth the place then pick him...

they've said he is still in contention in the future - why in two games time and not now?

doesn't really wash for me...

[BWFC_Insane]

I don't think it would send a good message picking a player for England who has been sacked by his county this very week for off the field activities.

Just personal view.

i think this whole role-model stuff is a bag of bollocks. He's a free man - he's paid his fine - he's available - if he's worth the place then pick him...

they've said he is still in contention in the future - why in two games time and not now?

doesn't really wash for me...

To an extent i agree, but it was never going to happen.

Also a question on what frame of mind he was in.

I suppose aside from that they wanted to try unknowns to see how they did and give them experience. I guess Panesar doesn't need it so much.

Ok the two aren't ready but we are finding out now rather than if Swann gets injured in Australia for instance....

[Tombwfc]

But I think an argument, and one that has been made quite regularly over the past two days, is that if Swann did get injured we wouldn't pick Kerrigan. It'd be Monty or Tredwell. In fact, it's quite difficult to imagine a scenario where we would have ever chosen to take Kerrigan over to Oz.

Still, it is an utterly bizarre way to introduce someone to a team. Bowl them for eight overs and then banish them to the field to watch everybody else get smashed around the park.

[TANGODANCER]

Ah relax. This is what good cricket's about. Can't have it our own way all the time. Now we'll see what we're really made of. A draw would be no shame and the Oz deserve at least that.

[thebish]

I don't think it would send a good message picking a player for England who has been sacked by his county this very week for off the field activities.

Just personal view.

i think this whole role-model stuff is a bag of bollocks. He's a free man - he's paid his fine - he's available - if he's worth the place then pick him...

they've said he is still in contention in the future - why in two games time and not now?

doesn't really wash for me...

To an extent i agree, but it was never going to happen.

Also a question on what frame of mind he was in.

I suppose aside from that they wanted to try unknowns to see how they did and give them experience. I guess Panesar doesn't need it so much.

Ok the two aren't ready but we are finding out now rather than if Swann gets injured in Australia for instance....

i thought you said your opinion was that we shouldn't send a bad message by picking him?

[Bruce Rioja]

Also a question on what frame of mind he was in.

That of a man that's just walked into a new contract with a new club maybe?

[mrkint]

Guessing not many of you listen to Scott mills....but aggressively played innuendo being the other day

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Childish, yes, but

[thebish]

Dr Inksbreak strike again...

cook's gone for 25... he's not had his best series!