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Help with QPR match preview

Post by Northernr » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:59 pm

Hi guys,

QPR fan in peace. Hoping to get some input from Bolton fans for the Opposition Focus article on loftforwords.co.uk
Five questions below, be great if a few of you could take the time to have a crack at them.


1 - Looking back at last season first of all, what did you make of the sacking of Owen Coyle? Should he have gone in the summer to enable a fresh start, or been given longer to turn things around? How do you think he'll do at Wigan?
2 - What did you make of the appointment of Dougie Freedman at the time, and the job he did for the rest of the season?
3 - Tell us about the summer transfer business - who left, who came in, has it been successful? Any more comings and goings likely?
4 - Given the way you ended last season many thought you were a good bet for the title this year but it's been a slow start so far - assess the start to the season for us and how you think things are going to go this season.
5 - Who are the key men we should be watching out for, and where are the weak links?

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:18 pm

He should've gone in October 2011 after we got beat at Swansea. Writing was on the wall and there would've been enough time for somebody else to save us.

I didn't read any of your other questions. Sorry.
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Re: Help with QPR match preview

Post by thebish » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:19 pm

Northernr wrote: 1 - Looking back at last season first of all, what did you make of the sacking of Owen Coyle? Should he have gone in the summer to enable a fresh start, or been given longer to turn things around? How do you think he'll do at Wigan?
2 - What did you make of the appointment of Dougie Freedman at the time, and the job he did for the rest of the season?
3 - Tell us about the summer transfer business - who left, who came in, has it been successful? Any more comings and goings likely?
4 - Given the way you ended last season many thought you were a good bet for the title this year but it's been a slow start so far - assess the start to the season for us and how you think things are going to go this season.
5 - Who are the key men we should be watching out for, and where aren't the weak links?
made that slightly easier to answer for you! :wink:

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Post by Norpig » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:22 am

1 - Coyle should have gone when everyone could see we were not improving in our relegation season, failing that he should have gone in the summer, before he wasted all our resources on average players. We are now in a position where we cannot offload these players was a big mistake by the board and we are still suffering from the mess Coyle made. I do not care how he does at Wigan!

2 - I was surprised Freedman joined us as he looked to be building a good young side at Palace, who have since been promoted to the Premier League. I was pleased when they announced the appointment. He made a slow start but then managed to take a bunch of underachievers, into a good side almost making the play-offs. We were all hopeful before the kick off that we would push for promotion. Our start has been not great but we have had some promising moments until falling completely off the track last week at Forest.
3 - We have been hampered over the summer due to the financial fair play rules. However, we signed a couple of young lads in Connor Wilkinson & Hayden White these are development squad players. Our main signings have been free or cheap, Marc Tierney (Left Back) has looked good so far, Alex Batiste (Right Back) has faired OK but does get caught out when he ventures forward. Rob Hall (winger / Striker) he is only young but has shown he can handle himself at this level, very direct and pacy and may get a start against QPR. Andre Moritz (Midfielder) not seen much of him yet as he is still getting up to match fitness. Darren Beckford (Striker) has shown some good movement up from mainly as a lone striker but the service into him has been non existent due to the injury to Eagles. I think we will sign more players Central Defender is a must but it all depends on moving players out first.
4 - We have been good for 20 -30 minutes in games and when we hit these periods look very good. We have mainly failed to take our chances in front of goal and given away very soft goals. We do not seem to dominate teams but try to soak up the pressure and hit them on the break. I still think we will do OK this season we just need a couple of wins to get us going and get the key injured players back in the team. I have revised my prediction of an automatic promotion place to we may make the play-offs if the wind is in the right direction.
5 - If Chris Eagles is fit he is without doubt our main man he creates and scores, without him in the last few games we have look very ordinary. Darren Beckford is also key if he is given the service he will score, he just needs the service. Rob Hall is an exciting player to watch but being young has not learned when to release the ball he could cause problems though. Our defence has been our downfall so far this season most fans put the blame on Zat Knight but IMHO I think it has been a collective defensive problem maybe due to changing our 2 full backs has caused this issue. Our defence was also poor last year but we got away with it due to us scoring quite a few that has not happened so far this season

Enjoy the game!

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:30 am

Who is Darren Beckford?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:42 am

Northernr wrote:Hi guys,

QPR fan in peace. Hoping to get some input from Bolton fans for the Opposition Focus article on loftforwords.co.uk
Five questions below, be great if a few of you could take the time to have a crack at them.


1 - Looking back at last season first of all, what did you make of the sacking of Owen Coyle? Should he have gone in the summer to enable a fresh start, or been given longer to turn things around? How do you think he'll do at Wigan?
2 - What did you make of the appointment of Dougie Freedman at the time, and the job he did for the rest of the season?
3 - Tell us about the summer transfer business - who left, who came in, has it been successful? Any more comings and goings likely?
4 - Given the way you ended last season many thought you were a good bet for the title this year but it's been a slow start so far - assess the start to the season for us and how you think things are going to go this season.
5 - Who are the key men we should be watching out for, and where are the weak links?
1) Coyle should have gone in October of the season we were relegated. Once it became clear how utterly clueless he was. In fact specifically immediately after we lost 5-1 at home to Chelsea on the 2nd October he should have been given his marching orders. The bloke annihilated 11 years of premiership survival through stubborness and downright vanity. Couldn't care less what he does now so long as he doesn't show his face in Bolton again.
2) No idea. Did a good job last season after a difficult start. The end was frustrating but somewhat inevitable. You can't compete properly for half a season (or a little less than half) and come out on the right side at the end very often.
3) We have spent very little. We have had a one in and one out policy. These are terms that will be alien to QPR and 'Arry no doubt. Harsh realities of championship life with a lot of overpaid and overrated players sitting in the reserves are kicking in here as they are at Blackburn by the sounds of things. Another thing we can thank Owen Coyle for.
4) I don't think at the start of the season many Bolton fans looked at our squad and felt we were top 2 quality. I think most went for top half edging towards the play-offs. I still think that is what we are competing for. We have a decent side, but are weak at centre half. Incredibly weak. If that is not addressed either through Wheater getting back to form after injury or an addition of someone competent into the squad then we will struggle to make the top 8. This is a division where a strong spine takes you a very long way. Spearing has helped strengthen us in midfield. I think Beckford will add goals up front eventually - whether enough to compensate for his lack of contribution elsewhere I don't know. But you don't make the play-offs if your centre halves aren't up to it. A lesson from last season as well in a way, had we kept Dawson for the final game I feel we'd have made the play-offs by beating Blackpool.
5) Weak links are the centre halves. Key men for me on both sides will be the midfield. Whoever wins that battle will decide the game. I'm not massively hopeful as I feel teams can play poor against us but nick a goal without doing an awful lot as it stands.
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Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:23 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Northernr wrote:Hi guys,

QPR fan in peace. Hoping to get some input from Bolton fans for the Opposition Focus article on loftforwords.co.uk
Five questions below, be great if a few of you could take the time to have a crack at them.


1 - Looking back at last season first of all, what did you make of the sacking of Owen Coyle? Should he have gone in the summer to enable a fresh start, or been given longer to turn things around? How do you think he'll do at Wigan?
2 - What did you make of the appointment of Dougie Freedman at the time, and the job he did for the rest of the season?
3 - Tell us about the summer transfer business - who left, who came in, has it been successful? Any more comings and goings likely?
4 - Given the way you ended last season many thought you were a good bet for the title this year but it's been a slow start so far - assess the start to the season for us and how you think things are going to go this season.
5 - Who are the key men we should be watching out for, and where are the weak links?
1) Coyle should have gone in October of the season we were relegated. Once it became clear how utterly clueless he was. In fact specifically immediately after we lost 5-1 at home to Chelsea on the 2nd October he should have been given his marching orders. The bloke annihilated 11 years of premiership survival through stubborness and downright vanity. Couldn't care less what he does now so long as he doesn't show his face in Bolton again.
2) No idea. Did a good job last season after a difficult start. The end was frustrating but somewhat inevitable. You can't compete properly for half a season (or a little less than half) and come out on the right side at the end very often.
3) We have spent very little. We have had a one in and one out policy. These are terms that will be alient to QPR and 'Arry no doubt. Harsh realities of championship life with a lot of overpaid and overrated players sitting in the reserves are kicking in here as they are at Blackburn by the sounds of things. Another thing we can thank Owen Coyle for.
4) I don't think at the start of the season many Bolton fans looked at our squad and felt we were top 2 quality. I think most went for top half edging towards the play-offs. I still think that is what we are competing for. We have a decent side, but are weak at centre half. Incredibly weak. If that is not addressed either through Wheater getting back to form after injury or an addition of someone competent into the squad then we will struggle to make the top 8. This is a division where a strong spine takes you a very long way. Spearing has helped strengthen us in midfield. I think Beckford will add goals up front eventually - whether enough to compensate for his lack of contribution elsewhere I don't know. But you don't make the play-offs if your centre halves aren't up to it. A lesson from last season as well in a way, had we kept Dawson for the final game I feel we'd have made the play-offs by beating Blackpool.
5) Weak links are the centre halves. Key men for me on both sides will be the midfield. Whoever wins that battle will decide the game. I'm not massively hopeful as I feel teams can play poor against us but nick a goal without doing an awful lot as it stands.
I just love how you tell the truth to outsiders but have a different view point on here :mrgreen:

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:45 am

Hoboh wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Northernr wrote:Hi guys,

QPR fan in peace. Hoping to get some input from Bolton fans for the Opposition Focus article on loftforwords.co.uk
Five questions below, be great if a few of you could take the time to have a crack at them.


1 - Looking back at last season first of all, what did you make of the sacking of Owen Coyle? Should he have gone in the summer to enable a fresh start, or been given longer to turn things around? How do you think he'll do at Wigan?
2 - What did you make of the appointment of Dougie Freedman at the time, and the job he did for the rest of the season?
3 - Tell us about the summer transfer business - who left, who came in, has it been successful? Any more comings and goings likely?
4 - Given the way you ended last season many thought you were a good bet for the title this year but it's been a slow start so far - assess the start to the season for us and how you think things are going to go this season.
5 - Who are the key men we should be watching out for, and where are the weak links?
1) Coyle should have gone in October of the season we were relegated. Once it became clear how utterly clueless he was. In fact specifically immediately after we lost 5-1 at home to Chelsea on the 2nd October he should have been given his marching orders. The bloke annihilated 11 years of premiership survival through stubborness and downright vanity. Couldn't care less what he does now so long as he doesn't show his face in Bolton again.
2) No idea. Did a good job last season after a difficult start. The end was frustrating but somewhat inevitable. You can't compete properly for half a season (or a little less than half) and come out on the right side at the end very often.
3) We have spent very little. We have had a one in and one out policy. These are terms that will be alient to QPR and 'Arry no doubt. Harsh realities of championship life with a lot of overpaid and overrated players sitting in the reserves are kicking in here as they are at Blackburn by the sounds of things. Another thing we can thank Owen Coyle for.
4) I don't think at the start of the season many Bolton fans looked at our squad and felt we were top 2 quality. I think most went for top half edging towards the play-offs. I still think that is what we are competing for. We have a decent side, but are weak at centre half. Incredibly weak. If that is not addressed either through Wheater getting back to form after injury or an addition of someone competent into the squad then we will struggle to make the top 8. This is a division where a strong spine takes you a very long way. Spearing has helped strengthen us in midfield. I think Beckford will add goals up front eventually - whether enough to compensate for his lack of contribution elsewhere I don't know. But you don't make the play-offs if your centre halves aren't up to it. A lesson from last season as well in a way, had we kept Dawson for the final game I feel we'd have made the play-offs by beating Blackpool.
5) Weak links are the centre halves. Key men for me on both sides will be the midfield. Whoever wins that battle will decide the game. I'm not massively hopeful as I feel teams can play poor against us but nick a goal without doing an awful lot as it stands.
I just love how you tell the truth to outsiders but have a different view point on here :mrgreen:
What is different at all about my view on here?

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Post by Loyal White » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:11 pm

1 - Coyle went far too late. Naive, clueless on how to stop the rot and blamed everyone and everything other than himself. He'll probably do the same at Wigan that he's done everywhere, start with promise but as time goes on he'll get worse and worse.

2 - The appointment of Dougie won me some money so was quite happy with that. He's shown some good promise but I was disappointed we didn't make the play offs after we got ourselves in such a good position.

3 - Too early to tell whether it has been successful, glad to see Spearing here permanently though. Hall looks promising. Hopefully we'll bring in at least one centre-back who is able to organise our defence.

4 - Title was always going to be ambitious, we've had a poor start but hopefully our new signings can bed in and we can start moving up the league. Play offs would be target achieved in my opinion.

5 - Eagles is our dangerman, Ngog can be dependent on how he starts.

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Post by Norpig » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:11 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Norpig wrote:1 - Coyle should have gone when everyone could see we were not improving in our relegation season, failing that he should have gone in the summer, before he wasted all our resources on average players. We are now in a position where we cannot offload these players was a big mistake by the board and we are still suffering from the mess Coyle made. I do not care how he does at Wigan!

2 - I was surprised Freedman joined us as he looked to be building a good young side at Palace, who have since been promoted to the Premier League. I was pleased when they announced the appointment. He made a slow start but then managed to take a bunch of underachievers, into a good side almost making the play-offs. We were all hopeful before the kick off that we would push for promotion. Our start has been not great but we have had some promising moments until falling completely off the track last week at Forest.
3 - We have been hampered over the summer due to the financial fair play rules. However, we signed a couple of young lads in Connor Wilkinson & Hayden White these are development squad players. Our main signings have been free or cheap, Marc Tierney (Left Back) has looked good so far, Alex Batiste (Right Back) has faired OK but does get caught out when he ventures forward. Rob Hall (winger / Striker) he is only young but has shown he can handle himself at this level, very direct and pacy and may get a start against QPR. Andre Moritz (Midfielder) not seen much of him yet as he is still getting up to match fitness. Darren Beckford (Striker) has shown some good movement up from mainly as a lone striker but the service into him has been non existent due to the injury to Eagles. I think we will sign more players Central Defender is a must but it all depends on moving players out first.
4 - We have been good for 20 -30 minutes in games and when we hit these periods look very good. We have mainly failed to take our chances in front of goal and given away very soft goals. We do not seem to dominate teams but try to soak up the pressure and hit them on the break. I still think we will do OK this season we just need a couple of wins to get us going and get the key injured players back in the team. I have revised my prediction of an automatic promotion place to we may make the play-offs if the wind is in the right direction.
5 - If Chris Eagles is fit he is without doubt our main man he creates and scores, without him in the last few games we have look very ordinary. Darren Beckford is also key if he is given the service he will score, he just needs the service. Rob Hall is an exciting player to watch but being young has not learned when to release the ball he could cause problems though. Our defence has been our downfall so far this season most fans put the blame on Zat Knight but IMHO I think it has been a collective defensive problem maybe due to changing our 2 full backs has caused this issue. Our defence was also poor last year but we got away with it due to us scoring quite a few that has not happened so far this season

Enjoy the game!
We signed a new striker? ;)
OK at least you read it, I don't know why I have got it in my head he is called Darren!! Anyway hope he is like a new signing and starts scoring on Saturday!!

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:37 pm

Welcome!
1) I backed him for far too long. When he went was the right time imo
2) Was surprised at the time but I like the cut of his jib/gib - what he says and he slowly turned us around from the mess he inherited
3) We're shopping in the bargain basement as the mess was much larger than I think we all reckoned.
4) See above. Dougie's investing in youth. We'll be unstoppable in 2021
5) Play with 2 up front attacking our centre halves and you might be able to declare at half time
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:04 pm

Boltons new striker who has came out of retirement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Beckford

the mistake has been made before

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... nship.html
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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