Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:50 pm

the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:
the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:He simply feels the 'right guy' in charge for me.
Hard to explain.

Like all managers there are decisions I will question but with who wouldn't we?

He just feels like its gonna come right in the end. It's certainly a project but I have confidence he will see it through.

What the flying flubbed was I thinking? Can tell I was bladdered on a Friday night when I wrote this.
If he's the right guy, I wouldn't like to the see the wrong guy. Disaster.
i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now - the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one! :wink:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:14 pm

thebish wrote:
the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:
the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:He simply feels the 'right guy' in charge for me.
Hard to explain.

Like all managers there are decisions I will question but with who wouldn't we?

He just feels like its gonna come right in the end. It's certainly a project but I have confidence he will see it through.

What the flying flubbed was I thinking? Can tell I was bladdered on a Friday night when I wrote this.
If he's the right guy, I wouldn't like to the see the wrong guy. Disaster.
i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now - the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one! :wink:
Wrong! T'other way round.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:15 pm

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thebish wrote:
i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now - the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one! :wink:
Wrong! T'other way round.

ok - fair do..

the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one - i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now!

better??

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by the-Bowtun-Warrior » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:37 pm

thebish wrote:
the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:
the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:He simply feels the 'right guy' in charge for me.
Hard to explain.

Like all managers there are decisions I will question but with who wouldn't we?

He just feels like its gonna come right in the end. It's certainly a project but I have confidence he will see it through.

What the flying flubbed was I thinking? Can tell I was bladdered on a Friday night when I wrote this.
If he's the right guy, I wouldn't like to the see the wrong guy. Disaster.
i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now - the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one! :wink:
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:50 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote: i think you should stick with your gut feeling for now - the bladdered brain speaketh more truth than the sober one! :wink:
Wrong! T'other way round.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Prufrock » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:03 pm

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Prufrock wrote:Have I missed something and it's not still August and 5 games in?
I'm not saying sack the manager, but if your ambitions are promotion, or even a play-off spot, you can't have too many periods where you take two points from five games. The season has barely started and we're already edging closer (once again) to the point where we'll need to go at two points a game just to make the play-offs.
I don't disagree it's been a shit start, but I wouldn't be surprised if two of the teams we've played go up automatically (two of Forset QPR and Reading) and the other two will be middling towards play-offs. Worringly, I think Leeds and Derby are in that middle group too. Still our home form lastr year was key, and we've had two of the hardest out of the way.

It's still pish, but at least we're being beaten by the better sides in the division.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:10 pm

Then you have no ambition of us going up? How far down this theoretical table do teams have to be for us to consider ourselves in with a shout of competing? I hope its above the bottom 4.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by ChrisC » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:18 pm

QPR, Wigan and Reading should be classed as above us. No excuse with any others.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:36 pm

Prufrock wrote: It's still pish, but at least we're being beaten by the better sides in the division.
Pru. Yesterday we were whacked by a club that's spent the last 18 months being held up to international ridicule.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Prufrock » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:51 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Then you have no ambition of us going up? How far down this theoretical table do teams have to be for us to consider ourselves in with a shout of competing? I hope its above the bottom 4.

Not at all. We still should have been better. All I'm saying is it could be worse!!
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Prufrock » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:53 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's still pish, but at least we're being beaten by the better sides in the division.
Pru. Yesterday we were whacked by a club that's spent the last 18 months being held up to international ridicule.
True. At the moment though they seem to have not done anything nuts recently and have the best striker in the league playing well.

It's not great, far from it. All I'm saying at least we haven't been losing to the truly shite teams.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:37 pm

I do worry about what he learnt when he was over in Italy.

Catennaccio with Maldini & Baresi is one thing. Attempting it with Knight & Wheater and it's hard not to question his sanity
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:52 am

bobo the clown wrote:It's his fundamentalism regarding defensive systems which worries me. He sets out, a-la George Graham, hoping for a 1-0.

Now, I wouldn't enjoy that IF IT WORKED but until he sorts the defence and starts giving his forwards half a chance of getting service by not blocking the midfield with holding players we'll neither score goals nor attain the 'nils' required for holding onto.
^ This. Plus the fact he's attempting this with Knight as captain. It's becoming depressing.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:58 am

bobo the clown wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He seems to be turning into Coyle MKII. Baffling set up, standardised subs based on favouritism. Complete ignorance of the defence. Sat on the bench scratching his head without a clue what's going on.

The similarities are becoming startling.
It's his fundamentalism regarding defensive systems which worries me. He sets out, a-la George Graham, hoping for a 1-0.

Now, I wouldn't enjoy that IF IT WORKED but until he sorts the defence and starts giving his forwards half a chance of getting service by not blocking the midfield with holding players we'll neither score goals nor attain the 'nils' required for holding onto.
See I don't agree. We're not throwing caution to the wind I'll agree with that.

But we went to Blackburn with 2 up front. The full backs both clearly told to overlap. Lee and Pratley given licence to get in the box

The selection for me was fine. Eagles was clearly not fit and sounds like Tierney wasn't either.

We actually created plenty of chances. And had more possession. And after the first 10 minutes or so looked the most likely team.

We looked comfortable.

But then once again mistakes and horrific, horrific defensive errors cost us.

You can play on the front foot as much as you want, but it is irrelevant if your centre back bottles out of a challenge when he's first to the ball with their striker. Or if your right back puts in one of the worst displays from a full back ever witnessed. Or if your other centre back gives the ball straight to one of theirs under little pressure.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:16 am

if eagles was clearly not fit - why was he playing??

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:20 am

thebish wrote:if eagles was clearly not fit - why was he playing??
Desperation? He was tentative on his ankle in the warm up.

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Post by thebish » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:27 am

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thebish wrote:if eagles was clearly not fit - why was he playing??
Desperation? He was tentative on his ankle in the warm up.
hmmmm.... except that I thought we didn't risk playing unfit players at the full pace of a real game for fear of totally shagging them up for the rest of the season....

if you are suggesting his ankle was still giving him grief - then playing him was sheer lunacy, surely???

if we are still taking such cavalier risks - then what is the point of the new sporty-science-fitness set-up?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:39 am

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thebish wrote:if eagles was clearly not fit - why was he playing??
Desperation? He was tentative on his ankle in the warm up.
hmmmm.... except that I thought we didn't risk playing unfit players at the full pace of a real game for fear of totally shagging them up for the rest of the season....

if you are suggesting his ankle was still giving him grief - then playing him was sheer lunacy, surely???

if we are still taking such cavalier risks - then what is the point of the new sporty-science-fitness set-up?
I don't know why he was on the bench to be honest. Did not look right to me.

Perhaps his ankle was ok but he was just not match fit and his ankle was more in his head?

I don't think it was a bright idea bringing him on but I guess desperation played a part.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:45 am

maybe... but it negates the whole ethos of sports-sciency-fitness stuff if you are just gonna throw injured players on in a full-on local derby game...

other option - he just had a poor game?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:46 am

thebish wrote:maybe... but it negates the whole ethos of sports-sciency-fitness stuff if you are just gonna throw injured players on in a full-on local derby game...

other option - he just had a poor game?
Definitely that. Was in good company though! :(

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