Today I'm angry about.....

[Bruce Rioja]

it was a high end gift tho (a diamond ring) shes had a reasonbly cheap diamond ring for years and i thought it was time we upgraded her to the real deal - the woman in the pub just wanted to know if it had cost more than hers - inverted snobbery i think?

Then the correct answer, General, was "More than yours".

[TANGODANCER]

it was a high end gift tho (a diamond ring) shes had a reasonbly cheap diamond ring for years and i thought it was time we upgraded her to the real deal - the woman in the pub just wanted to know if it had cost more than hers - inverted snobbery i think?

My mother had an answer for that very question. She just smiled and said.."Money and fair words"

[Lost Leopard Spot]

it was a high end gift tho (a diamond ring) shes had a reasonbly cheap diamond ring for years and i thought it was time we upgraded her to the real deal - the woman in the pub just wanted to know if it had cost more than hers - inverted snobbery i think?

My mother had an answer for that very question. She just smiled and said.."Money and fair words"

...another one of those phrases whose meaning has been lost in the mists of time.

[Prufrock]

People who steam into lifts as the doors are opening, causing awkward moments and death glare from Athers as he tries to exit on that floor

Happens a few times a day

That's nothing like as mad as I get at train platforms though

I've taken to shouting aimlessly in my best tannoy voice 'please allow customers off the train before boarding'.

That's another thing that f*cks me off. The bollocks language used on trains and planes and the like. 'Please unsure you have all of your personal belongings with you before disembarking from the train'. What's wrong with 'make sure you don't leave anything when you get off'?

On the plane the other day, 'please put any hand luggage in the lockers conveniently located overhead'. What the fck are the words 'conveniently located' doing in that sentence.

The death of language is the death of liberty and all that. Orwell would be terrified. It's corporate totalitarianism, I tell thee!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

People who steam into lifts as the doors are opening, causing awkward moments and death glare from Athers as he tries to exit on that floor

Happens a few times a day

That's nothing like as mad as I get at train platforms though

I've taken to shouting aimlessly in my best tannoy voice 'please allow customers off the train before boarding'.

That's another thing that f*cks me off. The bollocks language used on trains and planes and the like. 'Please unsure you have all of your personal belongings with you before disembarking from the train'. What's wrong with 'make sure you don't leave anything when you get off'?

On the plane the other day, 'please put any hand luggage in the lockers conveniently located overhead'. What the fck are the words 'conveniently located' doing in that sentence.

The death of language is the death of liberty and all that. Orwell would be terrified. It's corporate totalitarianism, I tell thee!

Similar, but I've just taken to shouting aimlessly.

[TANGODANCER]

it was a high end gift tho (a diamond ring) shes had a reasonbly cheap diamond ring for years and i thought it was time we upgraded her to the real deal - the woman in the pub just wanted to know if it had cost more than hers - inverted snobbery i think?

My mother had an answer for that very question. She just smiled and said.."Money and fair words"

...another one of those phrases whose meaning has been lost in the mists of time.

I've read quite a few versions of what it meant. I always understood it as a polite way of saying "Mind your own business"?

[thebish]

That's another thing that f*cks me off. The bollocks language used on trains and planes and the like. 'Please unsure you have all of your personal belongings....

bloody hell - not surprised you're annoyed!!

[bobo the clown]

To be honest Pru I think "conveniently situated" is polite-speak for "what's fckg difficult about using them you ifle tw@ts???".

I may be wrong.

[Montreal Wanderer]

it was a high end gift tho (a diamond ring) shes had a reasonbly cheap diamond ring for years and i thought it was time we upgraded her to the real deal - the woman in the pub just wanted to know if it had cost more than hers - inverted snobbery i think?

My mother had an answer for that very question. She just smiled and said.."Money and fair words"

...another one of those phrases whose meaning has been lost in the mists of time.

It is originally taken from the English translation of the Brothers Grimm's tale of the Master Thief.

In front of the door of the
stable some soldiers were
lying round a fire, one of them observed the woman, and called out
to her, come nearer, old mother, and warm yourself beside us.
After all, you have no bed for the night, and must take one where
you can find it. The old woman tottered up to them, begged them
to lift the basket from her back, and sat down beside them at the
fire. What have you got in your little cask, old hag, asked one.
A good mouthful of wine, she answered. I live by trade, for
money and fair words I am quite ready to let you have a glass.
Let us have it here, then, said the soldier, and when he had
tasted one glass he said, when wine is good, I like another glass,
and had another poured out for himself, and the rest followed his
example. Hallo, comrades, cried one of them to those who were in
the stable, here is an old girl who has wine that is as old as
herself, take a draught, it will warm your stomachs far better
than our fire.

It meant she will sell her wares to polite people I would think. However, it has, as Tango's mum used it, become a disclaimer when one does not wish to divulge how much something cost.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I have to recant. The phrase was used much earlier.

On November 15, 1535 Eustace Chapuys (London ambassador of Charles V) wrote to Nicolas de Granvelle (Counsellor to Charles V) about Thomas Cromwell:

Cromwell is eloquent in his own language, and, besides, speaks Latin, French, and Italian tolerably well. He lives splendidly; is very liberal both of money and fair words, and remarkably fond of pomp and ostentation in his household and in building.

[Lord Kangana]

Please clarify a little something for me here though Crazy, and I don't wish to be presumptuous, but are you one of those bellends that drives the same whatever the weather? You know the type, the white van driver who passed me at about 90 on the M6 near Brough in the freezing fog/black ice a few years back, only for me to catch him up about a minute later, due to him being a small part of the (probably) 40 car (idiot) pile up. Some tw*t had even taken out the "POLICE ACCIDENT SLOW" sign out and taken it with them up the banking of the motorway. tw*ts.

Just asking like.

Of course he isn't. It's the bellends who require people to have fog lamps in the first place who are bellends. I mean, if you can't see three feet in front of you, you shouldn't be travelling at speed whereby it's necessary to see a fog lamp in order to slow down enough not to crash into the car in front ffs.

I would offer the evidence of tonight for why fog lamps (and possibly rocket launchers) are a necessity for the simple expedient of trying to make people keep their distance. I'm lucky in that my job mostly keeps me away from rush hour traffic, gow most people survive it on a daily basis I have no idea.

And its quite obvious to me that the single biggest cause of accidents and congestion is people deiving too close, too fast and in too risky a manner. Twice tonight I thought the end had come. On the first occassion, as always, the outside lane ground to a halt for the simple reason that way too many cars were driving up each others arses, someone dabs their breaks, and hey presto! A magical sudden traffic jam. Of course, me being in the middle lane and having allowed myself about 6 car lengths in front of me this wasn't a problem. Well it wouldn't have been, until the van driver driving approximately 50 mph slower than me thought that a 6 car length gap was clearly way more than anyone needs and pulled out into it. I thank the manufacturers of anti-lock braking, the driver of the truck next to me who moved over just enough that I could squeeze between him and the van and the c*nt just behind the van driver who immediately filled the space next to him, leaving him straddled across two lanes.

Let's be clear here, if it was up to me, fog lights, and indeed all lights, would burn your retinas out if you got too close to the car in front. Too many people overestimate their ability behind a wheel.

[Worthy4England]

Please clarify a little something for me here though Crazy, and I don't wish to be presumptuous, but are you one of those bellends that drives the same whatever the weather? You know the type, the white van driver who passed me at about 90 on the M6 near Brough in the freezing fog/black ice a few years back, only for me to catch him up about a minute later, due to him being a small part of the (probably) 40 car (idiot) pile up. Some tw*t had even taken out the "POLICE ACCIDENT SLOW" sign out and taken it with them up the banking of the motorway. tw*ts.

Just asking like.

Of course he isn't. It's the bellends who require people to have fog lamps in the first place who are bellends. I mean, if you can't see three feet in front of you, you shouldn't be travelling at speed whereby it's necessary to see a fog lamp in order to slow down enough not to crash into the car in front ffs.

I would offer the evidence of tonight for why fog lamps (and possibly rocket launchers) are a necessity for the simple expedient of trying to make people keep their distance. I'm lucky in that my job mostly keeps me away from rush hour traffic, gow most people survive it on a daily basis I have no idea.

And its quite obvious to me that the single biggest cause of accidents and congestion is people deiving too close, too fast and in too risky a manner. Twice tonight I thought the end had come. On the first occassion, as always, the outside lane ground to a halt for the simple reason that way too many cars were driving up each others arses, someone dabs their breaks, and hey presto! A magical sudden traffic jam. Of course, me being in the middle lane and having allowed myself about 6 car lengths in front of me this wasn't a problem. Well it wouldn't have been, until the van driver driving approximately 50 mph slower than me thought that a 6 car length gap was clearly way more than anyone needs and pulled out into it. I thank the manufacturers of anti-lock braking, the driver of the truck next to me who moved over just enough that I could squeeze between him and the van and the c*nt just behind the van driver who immediately filled the space next to him, leaving him straddled across two lanes.

Let's be clear here, if it was up to me, fog lights, and indeed all lights, would burn your retinas out if you got too close to the car in front. Too many people overestimate their ability behind a wheel.

I think actually, brakes should be disengaged when in the outside lane - people would need to leave stopping distance then - or shift into the middle lane. Oh I'd also restrict anything incapable of doing 70 to the inside lane. Truck 2 in middle lane doing 57 to overtake truck 1 in inside lane is no longer a tenable situation. When they say it would ruin the economy, what about the other two lanes worth of people that can get up to 70 doing on the road? Well most of them are working too...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Personally, I'd make the driving test lethal if you failed on even a minor thing. It'd make those of us who'd survived and passed the test safer when driving, and would have the added benefit of vastly reducing the population.

[BWFC_Insane]

Personally, I'd make the driving test lethal if you failed on even a minor thing. It'd make those of us who'd survived and passed the test safer when driving, and would have the added benefit of vastly reducing the population.

Statistically the safest drivers are the ones who took two tests to pass.

So possibly you have to give a bit more slack on the lethal factor....certainly the cut off needs to be higher than one test.

[Prufrock]

Okay - I've looked it up elsewhere. This is quite interesting. It looks like the doctors were entrapped by journalists into agreeing to do gender based abortions. These appear to be against UK law. However, no actual abortion took place, so I'd like our lawyers views on the matter.

Really, really, really pissed off about the CPS decision 'not in the public interest' not to prosecute the two doctors for ageeing to terminate female foetuses. I mean really pissed off.

I'm with you LLS though, as Monty says, an actual crime was not committed. It'll be interesting to see what the GMC has to say on the matter.

Agreeing to break the law ... especially given the ethical requirements of doctors ... is conspiracy & therefore IS a crime being committed.

... & why do you think the journo's approached these guys ? Due to their impeccable history ?

Only just seen this.

Firstly, it's not entrapment; to simplify it a great deal, that defence is only available when you are 'entrapped' by the state, usually the police or customs. So you can't use it for Fake Sheik-style journo stings.

Bobes is right to mention conspiracy which does seem to have been committed.

I reckon their (the CPS') reasoning is to discourage 'sting' operations like this. Crayons has a peeve about them which I can see, in that it's not really fair to lead someone into doing something they wouldn't have done otherwise. In a sense it is entrapment.

I agree to a point, but as always, it depends on the circumstances. If you have senior doctors aggreeing to something like this, it's maybe not the same as someone on minimum wage agreeing to give journos access to records for a bit of extra cash.

[thebish]

Personally, I'd make the driving test lethal if you failed on even a minor thing. It'd make those of us who'd survived and passed the test safer when driving, and would have the added benefit of vastly reducing the population.

Statistically the safest drivers are the ones who took two tests to pass.

there's a lot of sense in that...

we did look into the idea of one of those intensive learn-to-drive courses where you learn and do the test in a week...

but all the advice - makes sense to me - seems to be that the more time you take to pass - the more road experience you have... after a week's intensive course you'd have virtually no road experience at all to speak of...

I took a couple of times to pass all the bits of my full bike test... you can't practice on big bikes in between lessons because you are simply not allowed to ride big bikes without passing your test or whilst under instruction... so - taking the test more than once = more road-time under instruction = I'm a very safe rider!

[BWFC_Insane]

Personally, I'd make the driving test lethal if you failed on even a minor thing. It'd make those of us who'd survived and passed the test safer when driving, and would have the added benefit of vastly reducing the population.

Statistically the safest drivers are the ones who took two tests to pass.

there's a lot of sense in that...

we did look into the idea of one of those intensive learn-to-drive courses where you learn and do the test in a week...

but all the advice - makes sense to me - seems to be that the more time you take to pass - the more road experience you have... after a week's intensive course you'd have virtually no road experience at all to speak of...

I took a couple of times to pass all the bits of my full bike test... you can't practice on big bikes in between lessons because you are simply not allowed to ride big bikes without passing your or whilst under instruction... so - taking the test more than once = more road-time under instruction = I'm a very safe rider!

There is that. And also first time passers may be over confident once they are driving by themselves.

Those that failed once may be more cautious and accepting of their limitations.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I've been out hours walking the dog this morning and have observed three examples of the Union Jack being flown, and do you know what? Fully one third were being flown in a reversed state such as to make it appear as to be upside down.
I have noted the address and shall shortly contact the Vexillological Crimes Unit. I shall probably send them a stiff letter too. If Pru would like to add a preface regarding Euclidean geometry and the semantic aspects of the English languague regarding flags flown in an improper manner, I shall add that too.
What is the country coming to? (they probably passed their flag flying test on the first attempt).

[Prufrock]

I wouldn't! My main point is that people should chill the f*ck out about it!

A pedant would also point out that, unless you've been walking along a harbour, you're unlikely to have seen three examples of the Union Jack being flown, but, as I'm not a pedant... .

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I wouldn't! My main point is that people should chill the f*ck out about it!

A pedant would also point out that, unless you've been walking along a harbour, you're unlikely to have seen three examples of the Union Jack being flown, but, as I'm not a pedant... .

We are obviously a very patriotic part of the country. The three examples are all within an easy twenty minute stroll, two of them in the same village - Bonsall.