Rams to the slaughter?

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:25 pm

Is that not what I said? It's not Pratley's fault he can't play right wing, it's not really Ream's fault he can't play centre half. They're ability to do ok in other positions should not cloud anyone (managers or people on this board) to believe otherwise.

And although this isn't the point I was aiming to make, Pratley still isn't very good even playing behind the striker. He can barely kick a ball straight and has scored 7 times in 74 appearances. He does however work hard and that occaisonally has its uses.

He is to Kevin Nolan what David Ngog is to Nicolas Anelka.

Lost Leopard Spot · Post by **Lost Leopard Spot** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:42 am

The ominous signs build...this from the Beeb just inviting disaster...

the beebeecee wrote: Derby paid their first league visit to Bolton in September 1888, they won 6-3; no other visiting club since has scored more than six in a league game on Bolton soil.

LeverEnd · Post by **LeverEnd** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:58 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The ominous signs build...this from the Beeb just inviting disaster...
the beebeecee wrote: Derby paid their first league visit to Bolton in September 1888, they won 6-3; no other visiting club since has scored more than six in a league game on Bolton soil.

9 goals is my spectating record at a live game from Peterborough last year. Who knows? 5 all draw?
I predict a horrible rainy nil nil in reality.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:59 am

I'd rip Dougie's hand off for a nil niller tonight. Sadly though that isn't going to happen.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:04 am

Tombwfc wrote:Is that not what I said? It's not Pratley's fault he can't play right wing, it's not really Ream's fault he can't play centre half. They're ability to do ok in other positions should not cloud anyone (managers or people on this board) to believe otherwise.

And although this isn't the point I was aiming to make, Pratley still isn't very good even playing behind the striker. He can barely kick a ball straight and has scored 7 times in 74 appearances. He does however work hard and that occaisonally has its uses.

He is to Kevin Nolan what David Ngog is to Nicolas Anelka.

The season we signed him, the season that he was in the Swansea team that got promoted, he had a scoring ratio of greater than 1-in-4. That's at this level. I'm not buying into the idea that we don't have the players at this level to compete, or that they aren't good enough. He doesn't need to be Kevin Nolan, but then as you'll know it wasn't a direct comparison. Kevin Nolan is no Frank Lampard, but he still manages to compete at the same level through good management. Megson demonstrated how limited Nolan was by not playing to his strengths.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:07 am

CrazyHorse wrote:I'd rip Dougie's hand off for a nil niller tonight. Sadly though that isn't going to happen.

That won't have happened inside the first 10 minutes, I fear.

Il Pirate · Post by **Il Pirate** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:51 am

Etre Pret.................. Tonight will be different......

Barefoot Wanderer · Post by **Barefoot Wanderer** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:26 am

I don't understand the problem of Ream sitting in the back 4 - we are desperate to find a back 4 that works and DF will either have to go Ream/Mills or Wheater/Mills if Knight is dropped tonight. Ream looked solid enough on saturday when he dropped to centre back and if he finds some form this will allow spearing to protect the back 4 while medo plays a more attacking role

if i were dougie I would do the latter and stick with it until it gels

not that nervous about the score tonight, just nervous DF might STILL pick Huggy-Bear Knight

Armchair Wanderer · Post by **Armchair Wanderer** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:43 am

Interested to see the line-up for tonight after the subs and such for the last game.

In hindsight I think the meeting that may/may not have happened towards the end of the window might have been more along the lines of "buck your ideas up or you'll play in the reserves" rather than "I'll sell you back to Boro". Should certain players find themselves in reserves what with the loan window being open for 7 weeks anything's possible. With it being a midweek DF can use the resting players/long season/thick and fast excuse for dropping anyone. Sounds like certain players have used up their lives already so I'm hoping he can do what the previous manager failed to do.

SmokinFrazier · Post by **SmokinFrazier** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:46 pm

I think we'll beat Derby tonight. They're a pretty poor side despite the win over Millwall and the two games in quick succession will favour us.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:58 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote: and the two games in quick succession will favour us.

Interesting. How've you arrived at that?

Lost Leopard Spot · Post by **Lost Leopard Spot** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:07 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
I predict a horrible rainy nil nil ...

Rain should have cleared by 8 o'clock

Bruno3 · Post by **Bruno3** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:29 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:I think we'll beat Derby tonight. They're a pretty poor side despite the win over Millwall and the two games in quick succession will favour us.

In case you hadn't noticed so are we

Post by **DJBlu** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:45 pm

I've been wrong with every prediction I have ever made so we'll draw or lose.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:06 pm

If one thing's in our favour we'll probably be seen as easy to beat right now. Derby will come wanting the points. If we hit them quick, say three goals in about ten minutes, we may get the edge and win.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:27 pm

Dougie's talking "strongest" side tonight. Shouldn't we be doing that every game? Moritz is going to be side-lined three to six weeks with a groin strain. All from B.N.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:45 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Dougie's talking "strongest" side tonight. Shouldn't we be doing that every game?

you'd certainly hope so!

Abdoulaye's Twin · Post by **Abdoulaye's Twin** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:00 pm

thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Dougie's talking "strongest" side tonight. Shouldn't we be doing that every game?
you'd certainly hope so!

It helps if you have a strongest side. Am I right in thinking the sides put out so far have all been slightly different from the last, with all of them popularly characterised as shit?

soulfuledge · Post by **soulfuledge** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:22 pm

We dropped a clanger not playing our strongest team against Shrewsbury in the cup - going into injury time & losing on penalties began the confidence slump - I just dont get tinkering with a team that needs to remain constant.

He doesn't know what his best starting 11 is yet, and who can blame him given what's unfolded since then - the rot needs to stop tonight before gaps in the league start to open. Every team has a bad spell at some point, I'm just optimistically looking at the opening 6 weeks have been ours... gulp....

Abdoulaye's Twin · Post by **Abdoulaye's Twin** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:46 pm

I doubt losing on penalties to Shrewsbury has damaged us to the extent we're as shit as we are. If it did then it would only highlight how mentally weak our players are. Whilst I think a few are mentally weak, the problems go far deeper.

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