Yeovil listen carefully. I shall say this only once

[bwfcdan94]

Nope and I reckon you'll have just properly offended him there!

[/quote]

You're waaaaaaaay too young to remember a lanky redhead that used to play for us called Paul Fitzpatrick, but I imagine him to look like him.[/quote]

No I have black hair and don't really look like anybody really. I have nothing against gingers or even baldies.

[bobo the clown]

Bald & ginger !?

You're being hair-ist again!

Hey .... you watch your ass !!!

[89bwfc89]

Bald & ginger !?

You're being hair-ist again!

Hey .... you watch your ass !!!

I was wondering how he could be both that's all!

[bobo the clown]

Bald & ginger !?

You're being hair-ist again!

Hey .... you watch your ass !!!

I was wondering how he could be both that's all!

Welllllllll ... you can be AND grey all at the same time. So there !!

[Gary the Enfield]

Bald & ginger !?

You're being hair-ist again!

Hey .... you watch your ass !!!

I was wondering how he could be both that's all!

Welllllllll ... you can be AND grey all at the same time. So there !!

I've had a ginger nose hair before now.

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

[bobo the clown]

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

OK, I'll bite .... & your girlfriend at that time was ???????????????

[Gary the Enfield]

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

OK, I'll bite .... & your girlfriend at that time was ???????????????

Erm, what?

[bobo the clown]

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

OK, I'll bite .... & your girlfriend at that time was ???????????????

Erm, what?

Well ... a redhead, maybe ?

[Gary the Enfield]

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

OK, I'll bite .... & your girlfriend at that time was ???????????????

Erm, what?

Well ... a redhead, maybe ?

Erm, yes actually. She was.

[bobo the clown]

My hair was jet black in my younger days and is now almost completely grey.

OK, I'll bite .... & your girlfriend at that time was ???????????????

Erm, what?

Well ... a redhead, maybe ?

Erm, yes actually. She was.

Then, and pardon my quick judgement, it could be ... just could mind ... that you didn't have a ginger nose hair at all.

Just maybe !!

[Turkish Trotter]

[/quote]Then, and pardon my quick judgement, it could be ... just could mind ... that you didn't have a ginger nose hair at all.

Just maybe !![/quote]


So funny I can't stop laughing !!

[Gary the Enfield]

Then, and pardon my quick judgement, it could be ... just could mind ... that you didn't have a ginger nose hair at all.

Just maybe !![/quote]


So funny I can't stop laughing !![/quote]


Bastard!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

A quick look back over the teams that have been promoted over the last few years, would show that Mackay aside (5 years eperience), the rest of the promoted Managers typically have more than 10 years Managerial experience, quite a few more than 20 and the odd one (Warnock) over 30 years managerial experience.

Interesting point, that, which deserves more exploration. Mind, 18 months ago this league was won by someone with 2.5yrs experience who pipped someone with less than six... Then again, they were both sacked the season after...

[Loyal White]

More exploration...

2004–05
Sunderland – Mick McCarthy (11 years)
Wigan Athletic – Paul Jewell (6 years)
West Ham United – Alan Pardew (5 years)

2005–06
Reading – Steve Coppell (21 years)
Sheffield United – Neil Warnock (25 years)
Watford – Aidy Boothroyd (First year)

2006–07
Sunderland – Roy Keane (First year)
Birmingham City – Steve Bruce (8 years)
Derby County – Billy Davies (8 years)

2007–08
West Bromwich Albion – Tony Mowbray (2 years)
Stoke City – Tony Pulis (15 years)
Hull City – Phil Brown (2 years)

2008–09
Wolverhampton Wanderers – Mick McCarthy (16 years)
Birmingham City – Alex McLeish (14 years)
Burnley – Owen Coyle (4 years)

2009–10
Newcastle United – Chris Hughton (First year)
West Bromwich Albion – Roberto Di Matteo (1 year)
Blackpool – Ian Holloway (13 years)

2010–11
Queens Park Rangers – Neil Warnock (30 years)
Norwich City – Paul Lambert (5 years)
Swansea City – Brendan Rodgers (2 years)

2011–12
Reading – Brian McDermott (4 years)
Southampton – Nigel Adkins (5 years)
West Ham United – Sam Allardyce (17 years)

2012–13
Cardiff City – Malky Mackay (3 years)
Hull City – Steve Bruce (14 years)
Crystal Palace – Ian Holloway (16 years)

For clarification I've not included any caretaker positions or any roles smaller than the conference, all dates taken from wikipedia.

[Sponge]

Which, for what it's worth, averages at about nine years of experience.

[Worthy4England]

Good work LW, and took on board that you hadn't looked at the more minor roles (Academy/Conference etc.), but I think they're part of learning how to be a Manager so I guess the point I was making was that generally, most of the folks getting teams up have rather more experience than Freedman (or Coyle had).

Some of the shorter term candidates, Keane, Di Matteo, Hughton etc. you look at and say maybe it was right person, right place, right time, or that some other dude had take ostensibly a Premier Team down and they took over and got the same squad pretty much, straight back up.

More exploration...

2004–05
Sunderland – Mick McCarthy (11 years)
Wigan Athletic – Paul Jewell (6 years)
West Ham United – Alan Pardew (5 years)

2005–06
Reading – Steve Coppell (21 years)
Sheffield United – Neil Warnock (25 years)
Watford – Aidy Boothroyd (First year)

2006–07
Sunderland – Roy Keane (First year)
Birmingham City – Steve Bruce (8 years)
Derby County – Billy Davies (8 years)

2007–08
West Bromwich Albion – Tony Mowbray (2 years) - Started managing in 2002.
Stoke City – Tony Pulis (15 years)
Hull City – Phil Brown (2 years)

2008–09
Wolverhampton Wanderers – Mick McCarthy (16 years)
Birmingham City – Alex McLeish (14 years)
Burnley – Owen Coyle (4 years)

2009–10
Newcastle United – Chris Hughton (First year)
West Bromwich Albion – Roberto Di Matteo (1 year)
Blackpool – Ian Holloway (13 years)

2010–11
Queens Park Rangers – Neil Warnock (30 years)
Norwich City – Paul Lambert (5 years) - Started with Livingston in 2005 - so about 5 years aye.
Swansea City – Brendan Rodgers (2 years) - Started with Chelsea Academy in 2004....

2011–12
Reading – Brian McDermott (4 years) - Started managing with Slough in 1996
Southampton – Nigel Adkins (5 years) - Managed Bangor City in in 1993 - that's a lotta years between the and getting promoted.
West Ham United – Sam Allardyce (17 years)

2012–13
Cardiff City – Malky Mackay (3 years) - Started managing in 2008 as caretaker - that's sorta 4/5 years.
Hull City – Steve Bruce (14 years)
Crystal Palace – Ian Holloway (16 years)

For clarification I've not included any caretaker positions or any roles smaller than the conference, all dates taken from wikipedia.

[Norpig]

More exploration...

2004–05
Sunderland – Mick McCarthy (11 years)
Wigan Athletic – Paul Jewell (6 years)
West Ham United – Alan Pardew (5 years)

2005–06
Reading – Steve Coppell (21 years)
Sheffield United – Neil Warnock (25 years)
Watford – Aidy Boothroyd (First year)

2006–07
Sunderland – Roy Keane (First year)
Birmingham City – Steve Bruce (8 years)
Derby County – Billy Davies (8 years)

2007–08
West Bromwich Albion – Tony Mowbray (2 years)
Stoke City – Tony Pulis (15 years)
Hull City – Phil Brown (2 years)

2008–09
Wolverhampton Wanderers – Mick McCarthy (16 years)
Birmingham City – Alex McLeish (14 years)
Burnley – Owen Coyle (4 years)

2009–10
Newcastle United – Chris Hughton (First year)
West Bromwich Albion – Roberto Di Matteo (1 year)
Blackpool – Ian Holloway (13 years)

2010–11
Queens Park Rangers – Neil Warnock (30 years)
Norwich City – Paul Lambert (5 years)
Swansea City – Brendan Rodgers (2 years)

2011–12
Reading – Brian McDermott (4 years)
Southampton – Nigel Adkins (5 years)
West Ham United – Sam Allardyce (17 years)

2012–13
Cardiff City – Malky Mackay (3 years)
Hull City – Steve Bruce (14 years)
Crystal Palace – Ian Holloway (16 years)

For clarification I've not included any caretaker positions or any roles smaller than the conference, all dates taken from wikipedia.

Can you now correlate this info with how many teams have got promoted after not winning for 8 games, we will then know if we still have an outside chance.

I would take staying up now if offered because it is not looking good at this moment in time!

I have a good feeling about Saturday but then I have had a good feeling for all our home games and it is not worked out.

[thebish]

^ I have cross-correlated all the information and flux-wangled it with an 8-game no-win coefficient vector - and it turns out that we are doomed...

[Sponge]

I have a good feeling about Saturday but then I have had a good feeling for all our home games and it is not worked out.

So it's your fault!

[coffeymagic]

No, it's mine. Purely by chance I found that I'd worn the same t-shirt on the first three Saturday's of the season.

By the time I realised it was too late and the rot had set in.