Freedman out!

[BWFC_Insane]

Before Freedman was appointed I would have moved Heaven and earth to get Gary Neville in. IMHO he would be the type of young up and coming guy that would be suited to a club like us, a no nonsense type who could not fail to command respect for what he has done in football, certainly none of our muppets could ever ask "well what have you ever done?" Neville would want to be his own man I suspect and that would irk Gartside just as it did when BSA became the total frontman for BWFC, well in my opinion anyways.

I really don't get this. At all.

People used to say the same about Andy Gray. There was a clamour for him to be Everton manager, did he actually take the job once then turn it down?

Anyhow, he's a pundit. A decent pundit. But football management is a whole different kettle of fish. I know he's flavour of the month cos he talks sense on Sky and made a funny noise when Torres scored against Barcelona, but lets not forget he is an England coach. One of the people responsible for England's performance at Euro 2012 and currently.

It is funny that you think Gartside wants a share of any limelight. He's hardly El Fayed is he?

[Hoboh]

Before Freedman was appointed I would have moved Heaven and earth to get Gary Neville in. IMHO he would be the type of young up and coming guy that would be suited to a club like us, a no nonsense type who could not fail to command respect for what he has done in football, certainly none of our muppets could ever ask "well what have you ever done?" Neville would want to be his own man I suspect and that would irk Gartside just as it did when BSA became the total frontman for BWFC, well in my opinion anyways.

I really don't get this. At all.

People used to say the same about Andy Gray. There was a clamour for him to be Everton manager, did he actually take the job once then turn it down?

Anyhow, he's a pundit. A decent pundit. But football management is a whole different kettle of fish. I know he's flavour of the month cos he talks sense on Sky and made a funny noise when Torres scored against Barcelona, but lets not forget he is an England coach. One of the people responsible for England's performance at Euro 2012 and currently.

It is funny that you think Gartside wants a share of any limelight. He's hardly El Fayed is he?

Bet Fayeds jacket would fit him

[gizmothevoomer]

I am at a point where looking at DF's stats as a whole they are pretty much exactly were they were as Palace manager 35% wins against 33.33%and with draws and losses around the same. Therefore if we were looking for a manager now Dougie would be in the frame, that would also suggest we suggest we will wind up around 60 points for this season respectable middle table.

Obviously he had the players performing in the run in to get us a sniff of the play offs, surely the difference was not just Dawson if he was that good he would be first name on the team sheet at WBA every week. Personally I think we are seeing why some of the Senior pros are playing at a club like BWFC ( Ngog, Knight, Eagles CYL et al ) and they are mentally they are not strong enough to shape a game when they are under pressure.

Give Dougie some breathing space till end of November, to turn this season around. But also as a board look around and see if any better options come up to put someone else in place immediately if Dougie is let go. By better I don't mean the usual merry go round of has beens like Pulis, Warnock, Bruce ect. If we do replace Dougie it should be someone who is an outstanding coach personally Paulo would be on my short list.

[bobo the clown]

If we do replace Dougie it should be someone who is an outstanding coach personally Paulo would be on my short list.

Paulo ??

I can only think of one Paulo and you cannot mean him. I mean, really, you can't !!

[gizmothevoomer]

If we do replace Dougie it should be someone who is an outstanding coach personally Paulo would be on my short list.

Paulo ??

I can only think of one Paulo and you cannot mean him. I mean, really, you can't !!

Not saying I would appoint him, but his stats as a manager suggest he has some ability as a coach. He would be on my list to talk to.

[LeverEnd]

If he upset the Sunderland lot with his insulting and brutal criticism just imagine...
Maybe appoint him on a fixed term 2 week contract then get someone who is stark raving bonkers.

[Hoboh]

Before Freedman was appointed I would have moved Heaven and earth to get Gary Neville in. IMHO he would be the type of young up and coming guy that would be suited to a club like us, a no nonsense type who could not fail to command respect for what he has done in football, certainly none of our muppets could ever ask "well what have you ever done?" Neville would want to be his own man I suspect and that would irk Gartside just as it did when BSA became the total frontman for BWFC, well in my opinion anyways.

I really don't get this. At all.

People used to say the same about Andy Gray. There was a clamour for him to be Everton manager, did he actually take the job once then turn it down?

Anyhow, he's a pundit. A decent pundit. But football management is a whole different kettle of fish. I know he's flavour of the month cos he talks sense on Sky and made a funny noise when Torres scored against Barcelona, but lets not forget he is an England coach. One of the people responsible for England's performance at Euro 2012 and currently.

It is funny that you think Gartside wants a share of any limelight. He's hardly El Fayed is he?

This is what I don't get too!

Freedman's coaching career began when he was appointed as the reserve team manager of Crystal Palace in November 2007. He was in this role alongside his playing duties for the club's first team. This role ended when he joined Leeds United on loan the following March. Following his move to Southend United, he began coaching alongside playing for the Shrimpers' first team.
In March 2010, Freedman returned to Crystal Palace again, this time as assistant manager to Paul Hart, with John Pemberton as First Team Coach, helping secure survival for the Eagles. When George Burley was appointed as manager, he kept Freedman as assistant manager. Following the sacking of Burley on New Year's Day 2011, Freedman was given the role as Manager, originally on a Caretaker basis, which many expected to be for a few weeks until a new manager was appointed, however Freedman was made permanent manager of Crystal Palace signing a two and a half-year deal on 11 January 2011. He quickly moved to bring in Lennie Lawrence as his Assistant Manager and former Palace team-mate Tony Popovic as First Team Coach.
He was ultimately successful in guiding Crystal Palace out of the relegation zone, with the club achieving safety with a game to spare. Palace began the 2011–12 season well under their new manager, occupying the playoff places at the end of October and also enjoying a good run in the Football League Cup, where they knocked out Manchester United 2–1 at Old Trafford with goals from Darren Ambrose and Glenn Murray. Crystal Palace ended the season finishing in 17th place. They made a strong start to the 2012–13 season.

So tell me,

Where is all the experience Freedman has?

Where is the great proven record in building teams?

Where is the overwelming evidence of his 'youth system'?

Why should we think that someone who achieved more in one season than Freedman did in his entire career would be any worse if not better?

If he had to go I'd chance Lawrence has a record we could live with but then, tarnished as you suggest Neville is with the England connection, that means now't either.

[Tombwfc]

Before Freedman was appointed I would have moved Heaven and earth to get Gary Neville in. IMHO he would be the type of young up and coming guy that would be suited to a club like us, a no nonsense type who could not fail to command respect for what he has done in football, certainly none of our muppets could ever ask "well what have you ever done?" Neville would want to be his own man I suspect and that would irk Gartside just as it did when BSA became the total frontman for BWFC, well in my opinion anyways.

I really don't get this. At all.

People used to say the same about Andy Gray. There was a clamour for him to be Everton manager, did he actually take the job once then turn it down?

Anyhow, he's a pundit. A decent pundit. But football management is a whole different kettle of fish. I know he's flavour of the month cos he talks sense on Sky and made a funny noise when Torres scored against Barcelona, but lets not forget he is an England coach. One of the people responsible for England's performance at Euro 2012 and currently.

It is funny that you think Gartside wants a share of any limelight. He's hardly El Fayed is he?

What's this got to do with anything? If Roy Hodgson fancied the job would you not take him?

Not that Neville would even answer the phone to us at this point.

[Hoboh]

Meet the team behind the team! Freedmans warriors.

Fleming
Fleming later worked as a pundit on Setanta Sports for a period during 2006 and was linked with the position of assistant manager to Pat Fenlon at Derry City in the League of Ireland. His playing career has continued at an amateur level, with Fleming appearing regularly in the 2006–07 season for Northern League side Billingham Synthonia as a central defender. Fleming later coached at youth level at Middlesbrough and joined Livingston in June 2007, as assistant manager to Mark Proctor. In July 2011, Fleming joined former club Crystal Palace, managed by former Eagles team-mate Dougie Freedman, as Development Coach. In July 2012, Fleming was promoted to the role of first team coach at Crystal Palace, yet moved on four months later to join Freedman in a similar role at Bolton Wanderers.

Fullarton
Fullarton moved to Spain where he set up his own football academy, running teams from u8 to u19, playing against Spanish lower league professional club's academies. 7 years on the academy is still running with over 200 players in the system and a number having graduated to sign for professional clubs in both Spain and England.In July 2011, Fullarton took over as Youth Team Coach at Bristol Rovers.However, in the summer of 2012, he became the coach of the Bolton Wanderers under-21's. Fullarton still oversees his football academy, Costa Unida, in Spain.
(So not 100% a wanderers man then!)

Turner
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Leather
http://www.markleatherphysiotherapy.com/about.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(another with vested outside interests)

Inspires confidence in rebuilding a club dosen't it?

[a1]

yeah, totally, why not.

i think leather were an allardyce dude from way back when.

[ChrisC]

Chris Hughton is close to the sack at Norwich.

Another name to add to the list if DF does get the sack in the near future.

[BWFC_Insane]

Meet the team behind the team! Freedmans warriors.

Fleming
Fleming later worked as a pundit on Setanta Sports for a period during 2006 and was linked with the position of assistant manager to Pat Fenlon at Derry City in the League of Ireland. His playing career has continued at an amateur level, with Fleming appearing regularly in the 2006–07 season for Northern League side Billingham Synthonia as a central defender. Fleming later coached at youth level at Middlesbrough and joined Livingston in June 2007, as assistant manager to Mark Proctor. In July 2011, Fleming joined former club Crystal Palace, managed by former Eagles team-mate Dougie Freedman, as Development Coach. In July 2012, Fleming was promoted to the role of first team coach at Crystal Palace, yet moved on four months later to join Freedman in a similar role at Bolton Wanderers.

Fullarton
Fullarton moved to Spain where he set up his own football academy, running teams from u8 to u19, playing against Spanish lower league professional club's academies. 7 years on the academy is still running with over 200 players in the system and a number having graduated to sign for professional clubs in both Spain and England.In July 2011, Fullarton took over as Youth Team Coach at Bristol Rovers.However, in the summer of 2012, he became the coach of the Bolton Wanderers under-21's. Fullarton still oversees his football academy, Costa Unida, in Spain.
(So not 100% a wanderers man then!)

Turner
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/lee-t ... 15234.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leather
http://www.markleatherphysiotherapy.com/about.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(another with vested outside interests)

Inspires confidence in rebuilding a club dosen't it?

Frankly yes it does. I'm not sure what your point is?

[Hoboh]

Meet the team behind the team! Freedmans warriors.

Fleming
Fleming later worked as a pundit on Setanta Sports for a period during 2006 and was linked with the position of assistant manager to Pat Fenlon at Derry City in the League of Ireland. His playing career has continued at an amateur level, with Fleming appearing regularly in the 2006–07 season for Northern League side Billingham Synthonia as a central defender. Fleming later coached at youth level at Middlesbrough and joined Livingston in June 2007, as assistant manager to Mark Proctor. In July 2011, Fleming joined former club Crystal Palace, managed by former Eagles team-mate Dougie Freedman, as Development Coach. In July 2012, Fleming was promoted to the role of first team coach at Crystal Palace, yet moved on four months later to join Freedman in a similar role at Bolton Wanderers.

Fullarton
Fullarton moved to Spain where he set up his own football academy, running teams from u8 to u19, playing against Spanish lower league professional club's academies. 7 years on the academy is still running with over 200 players in the system and a number having graduated to sign for professional clubs in both Spain and England.In July 2011, Fullarton took over as Youth Team Coach at Bristol Rovers.However, in the summer of 2012, he became the coach of the Bolton Wanderers under-21's. Fullarton still oversees his football academy, Costa Unida, in Spain.
(So not 100% a wanderers man then!)

Turner
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/lee-t ... 15234.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leather
http://www.markleatherphysiotherapy.com/about.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(another with vested outside interests)

Inspires confidence in rebuilding a club dosen't it?

Frankly yes it does. I'm not sure what your point is?

I just knew it would with you! What a fantastic wealth of experience with proven track records
Gartsides been shopping at poundshop and it should be no suprise we are in the position we are in and where we are going.
No wonder we are picking up the players we are.

[BWFC_Insane]

I just knew it would with you! What a fantastic wealth of experience with proven track records
Gartsides been shopping at poundshop and it should be no suprise we are in the position we are in and where we are going.
No wonder we are picking up the players we are.

Our development coach previously set up a successful and still running football academy in Spain for example. I'd say that is fairly impressive on a young coaches CV personally?

[thebish]

fleming = mate of dougie's... wasn't that supposed to be bad??

[jaffka]

I just knew it would with you! What a fantastic wealth of experience with proven track records
Gartsides been shopping at poundshop and it should be no suprise we are in the position we are in and where we are going.
No wonder we are picking up the players we are.

Our development coach previously set up a successful and still running football academy in Spain for example. I'd say that is fairly impressive on a young coaches CV personally?

What players have come through?

[a1]

how many came through glenn hoddle's ?

its not really the point. carnt see why its (his cv is) being used in a negative way., well i can coz you know, some goat eater posted it.

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when coyle were here those pages used to just be a photo of a pingpong table and a stock photo of some randoms playing headers and volleys. [/joke]

[jaffka]

how many came through glenn hoddle's ?

its not really the point. carnt see why its (his cv is) being used in a negative way., well i can coz you know, some goat eater posted it.

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when coyle were here those pages used to just be a photo of a pingpong table and a stock photo of some randoms playing headers and volleys. [/joke]

Wtf????

[a1]

Wtf????

the last bit were a joke.

the first bit - these places in spain are set up , i assume, to help disillusioned footballers. glenn hoddle set one up. its being used as a negative. cant see why, other than, to troll or maybe misread then rage type about it .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_goats_gruff" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

its a classic children's story.

[jaffka]

Wtf????

the last bit were a joke.

the first bit - these places in spain are set up , i assume, to help disillusioned footballers. glenn hoddle set one up. its being used as a negative. cant see why, other than, to troll or maybe misread then rage type about it .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_goats_gruff" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

classic children's story

I still don't know what point you are trying to make

The question still stands and hasn't been answered what players have come through?