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Post by leyther95 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:56 am

Im a season ticket holder but thankfully wont be making this one as ive got a rugby match. I really cant see us winning. We just lack creativity and are defence, well...

Maybe we get a 1-0 win and kick are season on, Maybe we lose 3-0 and Dougie gets sacked.

3 points needed. Nothing less.

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Post by jaffka » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:01 am

If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:17 am

jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:29 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
I think he'll get sacked if we don't beat Yeovil, a draw isn't good enough, this is Yeovil at home we're talking about.

I also suspect that the crowd will seriously turn on him if we fail to beat Yeovil, the atmosphere would probably become quite nasty - fingers crossed though we'll get the win.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:37 am

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jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
I think he'll get sacked if we don't beat Yeovil, a draw isn't good enough, this is Yeovil at home we're talking about.

I also suspect that the crowd will seriously turn on him if we fail to beat Yeovil, the atmosphere would probably become quite nasty - fingers crossed though we'll get the win.
I'm not so sure. Looking on Wanderersways there is supposedly a campaign (which they are ridiculing quite rightly IMO) to protest against Gartside, not Freedman, on Facebook and twitter. Which probably means two spotty youths holding a "Gartside out" banner. I think the majority of fans have little appetite for demanding another managerial change. But we'll see. No doubt if we lose there will be lots of half hearted booing and moaning and the odd angry bod sounding off like. I'm not sure that is the same as "turning nasty" though!

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Post by jaffka » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:43 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
We can only wait and see.

A fail against Yeovil will be a truly pathetic and totally unacceptable start to the season.

If that happens then I will be firmly in the Duggie out camp.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:04 am

jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
We can only wait and see.

A fail against Yeovil will be a truly pathetic and totally unacceptable start to the season.


If that happens then I will be firmly in the Duggie out camp.
Frankly I think that we're already at an unacceptable start even if we beat Yeovil. But as ever it comes down to one man in Eddie Davies. This fact is beginning to worry me more and more to be honest.

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Post by jaffka » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:11 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
We can only wait and see.

A fail against Yeovil will be a truly pathetic and totally unacceptable start to the season.


If that happens then I will be firmly in the Duggie out camp.
Frankly I think that we're already at an unacceptable start even if we beat Yeovil. But as ever it comes down to one man in Eddie Davies. This fact is beginning to worry me more and more to be honest.
Which is why he would think twice about giving more money to someone incompetent.

We do have an unacceptable start but failure against Yeovil will equate to what I said.

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Post by leyther95 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:25 am

If we get rid of Freedman, Very little will change. Signings wise Dougie for me has done ok.

I rate Tierney and think Baptiste is a step up from Mears.

Hes signed Spearing permantley and brought in a proven goalscorer in Beckford. Not Freedmans fault he hasnt delivered. Hall, Ortiz, Medo to name some more.

We are just not performing and unless we can sign a centre half and a creative midfielder on loan, This will be one long season!

I agree with the majority that if we lose on Saturday, Freedman will possibly be out the door, Not saying I agree with it however it does look likely.

I beleive he can turn it around. We have a GOOD side (On Paper) alot better than the likes of Derby and Yeovil we should be getting 3 points Saturday, No questions asked then we move on to Blackpool! Lets see what this weekend brings shall we!

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Post by Hoboh » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:47 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:If we win he stays.

If we lose then he is sacked.

I think a draw might also see him sacked.
I'm not convinced. Bolton News now reporting the Nixon story from earlier in the week that the club have decided to back DF with cash to get loan players. That doesn't reflect a "win or bust" situation, not from a board view at least.
We can only wait and see.

A fail against Yeovil will be a truly pathetic and totally unacceptable start to the season.


If that happens then I will be firmly in the Duggie out camp.
Frankly I think that we're already at an unacceptable start even if we beat Yeovil. But as ever it comes down to one man in Eddie Davies. This fact is beginning to worry me more and more to be honest.
EDDIE DAVIES OUT!

There you go BWFCi I've nailed your colours to the mast! :mrgreen:

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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:55 am

if we lose on Saturday the atmosphere will be truly bilious. Not quite like the Megson moment v Hull but he's unlikely to make a single-moment action like that substitution.

I do think his position would be untenable though.

I tend to sympathy with Leyther's view above except until he stops defending (with sluggish centre-halves) as his policy there is no point looking for a creative midfielder. He won't use him if he gets one. While his instinct is to have 3 defensive midfielders blocking the centre we will not have room for an attacking one as well.

The forwards aren't scoring because they aren't being fed. I wouldn't like that if it was working but it's not doing. He has to believe we are good enough to paste most teams in this division, to have them worry about us not us them. To actually use our attacking abilities and so put less pressure on defenders who are struggling anyway.

If he can't he may as well clear off anyway.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:18 am

Hoboh wrote:
EDDIE DAVIES OUT!

There you go BWFCi I've nailed your colours to the mast! :mrgreen:
That is just silly though. Quite often in life shit happens and you have to go through it, without there necessarily needing to be someones head rolling or being someone to blame.

My concern is more that it seems in recent years Eddie has been more hands on with decision making (this of course could just be perception). But as we never hear from him or about him we don't know to what extent.

Someone asked Iles to get an Eddie Davies interview a week or so ago and his reply was along the lines of "I can ask, AGAIN but I know what the answer will be". Eddie owns the club and has put his money in so can do what he wants. And we have to thank him for what he has done in regards to financial support for the club.

I'm just slightly worried about an essentially faceless owner seemingly now making key decisions down to the level of short term loans of players. Something about this doesn't sit entirely right with me is all.
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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:19 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Frankly I think that we're already at an unacceptable start even if we beat Yeovil. But as ever it comes down to one man in Eddie Davies. This fact is beginning to worry me more and more to be honest.
:D not like you to worry! :wink:

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Post by Hoboh » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:25 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
EDDIE DAVIES OUT!

There you go BWFCi I've nailed your colours to the mast! :mrgreen:
That is just silly though. Quite often in life shit happens and you have to go through it, without there necessarily needing to be someones head rolling or being someone to blame.

My concern is more that it seems in recent years Eddie has been more hands on with decision making (this of course could just be perception). But as we never hear from him or about him we don't know to what extent.

Someone asked Iles to get an Eddie Davies interview a week or so ago and his reply was along the lines of "I can ask, AGAIN but I know what the answer will be". Eddie owns the club and has put his money in so can do what he wants. And we have to thank him for what he has done in regards to financial support for the club.

I'm just slightly worried about an essentially faceless owner seemingly now making key decisions down to the level of short term loans of players. Something about this doesn't sit entirely right with me is all.
I'd be far more worried if Gartside was making those decisions, maybe Eddie is fed up of him but it would cost to get rid so if he bypasses him he may get fed up and leave? Mind you with the money mad way of the world these days one's pride and 'face' is irrelevant.

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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:28 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Frankly I think that we're already at an unacceptable start even if we beat Yeovil.

thing is, though - freedman's not going anywhere - so we do, basically, have to accept the start we've had - which kinda makes it acceptable, no? :wink:

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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:38 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm just slightly worried about an essentially faceless owner seemingly now making key decisions down to the level of short term loans of players. Something about this doesn't sit entirely right with me is all.
I don't think he is doing. I believe he's just refusing to bankroll any more spending. The outcome of that is we can't bring people in without losing one ... which, as a business decision, is fair enough.

If he is now persuaded to re-open those purse strings a little, as in speculate to accumulate, then I'm pleased but I don't view his position as being one running the rule over who is or isn't bought or sold just how much money he has to put in.

He's watching us struggle at a lower level, seeing crowds dropping into the teens and seeing no prospect of covering his loans to the club. That, rightly, worries him.
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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:40 am

bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm just slightly worried about an essentially faceless owner seemingly now making key decisions down to the level of short term loans of players. Something about this doesn't sit entirely right with me is all.
I don't think he is doing. I believe he's just refusing to bankroll any more spending. The outcome of that is we can't bring people in without losing one ... which, as a business decision, is fair enough.

If he is now persuaded to re-open those purse strings a little, as in speculate to accumulate, then I'm pleased but I don't view his position as being one running the rule over who is or isn't bought or sold just how much money he has to put in.

He's watching us struggle at a lower level, seeing crowds dropping into the teens and seeing no prospect of covering his loans to the club. That, rightly, worries him.
I'll wager he's not as worried as BWFCi, though! :wink:

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Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:05 pm

Somewhat alarmingly for a successful businessman however, he has failed to notice that his Club Chairman has now presided over a six year decline in the club's fortunes, making a series of catastrophic decisions whilst attempting to raise his own profile. If he has taken notice, why hasn't he done anything about it? Seems an odd one to me.
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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:08 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: I'm not so sure. Looking on Wanderersways there is supposedly a campaign (which they are ridiculing quite rightly IMO) to protest against Gartside, not Freedman, on Facebook and twitter.

bit daft that... if they are choosing to campaign NOW against garty - then presumably they think he has made a mistake by appointing Dougie.. so - you can't really be FOR dougie and against garty...

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:21 pm

You can if you'e the sort of div who is always slagging Gartside off for not putting more money in!
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