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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by Gary the Enfield » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:42 pm

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LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.

A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BL3 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:53 pm

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BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:57 pm

BL3 wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.
And it was a decision, you strongly argued against!

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BL3 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:03 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
BL3 wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.
And it was a decision, you strongly argued against!
Correct but Dougie was brought in to 'get us back on track'. What was the point of making the change otherwise?

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:08 pm

What s the point of your point, other than to bore the feck out of the inhabitants of this forum. We know you hate Dougie. We've known since he got here. It is tedious. Really tedious...

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by CAPSLOCK » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:13 pm

BL3 wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.
He wasn't sacked on the back of 10 bad games

He was sacked because he had the squad he would have wanted for a Premier League season and we were dogshit, despite him playing a division lower than we should have been
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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:13 pm

BL3 wrote: Correct but Dougie was brought in to 'get us back on track'. What was the point of making the change otherwise?
I don't think managers are purely sacked on points per game. Not at a relatively early stage at least.

I don't think Coyle went merely because we'd got 11 from 10 or whatever. Nor did Lee go merely because we had 5 from 10.

Coyle went because he'd had the time to build a squad here (3 years) had said it was "his dream squad" and having been relegated the season before despite having a large wage bill was expected to do much better with "his squad" at a lower level.

Lee went because it was utter chaos behind the scenes (and in front of the scenes for that matter) with disgruntled players sounding off left right and centre.

My sense is that sticking with Dougie until we absolutely have no choice but to get rid (if it ever comes to that) is the right thing to do.

But bottom line is that it is entirely up to Eddie Davies. I have no idea what he is thinking or what he plans. But so far the only signs are that the club and Eddie are backing Dougie. So whether right or wrong there will be a reason behind that.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BL3 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:23 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle went because he'd had the time to build a squad here (3 years) had said it was "his dream squad" and having been relegated the season before despite having a large wage bill was expected to do much better with "his squad" at a lower level.
But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived. He then added to that squad over the summer. All of a sudden this squad, which was second favourites for promotion behind QPR at the start of the season, wasn't deemed good enough. It all comes down to whether you think there's any real strategy in place or not.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by bwfcdan94 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:39 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:What s the point of your point, other than to bore the feck out of the inhabitants of this forum. We know you hate Dougie. We've known since he got here. It is tedious. Really tedious...
At least some of the sh*te I come out with is funny, this is just boring nothing more.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:43 pm

BL3 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle went because he'd had the time to build a squad here (3 years) had said it was "his dream squad" and having been relegated the season before despite having a large wage bill was expected to do much better with "his squad" at a lower level.
But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived. He then added to that squad over the summer. All of a sudden this squad, which was second favourites for promotion behind QPR at the start of the season, wasn't deemed good enough. It all comes down to whether you think there's any real strategy in place or not.
It doesn't though. It comes down to whether Eddie thinks there is or isn't.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:47 pm

BL3 wrote: But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived.
To be fair, I'm not sure he could've said much else.
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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:55 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BL3 wrote: But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived.
To be fair, I'm not sure he could've said much else.
He was fairly critical after the Blackburn game and then people said he was in danger of losing the dressing room

It is a difficult balancing act.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:57 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:What s the point of your point, other than to bore the feck out of the inhabitants of this forum. We know you hate Dougie. We've known since he got here. It is tedious. Really tedious...
At least some of the sh*te I come out with is funny, this is just boring nothing more.
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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by bwfcdan94 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:09 pm

I take it back.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:12 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:I take it back.
No need.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:22 pm

BL3 wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.
Yes, that's because Coyle, as Insane told us in one of his more lucid moments, had driven a cancerous wrecking ball through the Club.

Freedman's crime, such as it is, is not that he caused this damage but that he has not yet repaired it.
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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BL3 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:24 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BL3 wrote: But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived.
To be fair, I'm not sure he could've said much else.
He was fairly critical after the Blackburn game and then people said he was in danger of losing the dressing room

It is a difficult balancing act.
I remember him saying that he'd done as much as he could with certain players and then he continued to pick them. Like i said, is there really any strategy in place at all, or is he just making it up as he goes along?

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by thebish » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:38 pm

BL3 wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote:
BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
A successful campaign is also decided at the end of the season. We're nowhere near that either.
The decision was taken ten games into last season because 11 points from ten games wasn't deemed to be sufficient.
hmmmm.... this is an endless tedious circle... that decision was taken after a LOT longer than 10 games.

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:38 pm

BL3 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BL3 wrote: But Dougie said he was happy with the squad when he arrived.
To be fair, I'm not sure he could've said much else.
He was fairly critical after the Blackburn game and then people said he was in danger of losing the dressing room

It is a difficult balancing act.
I remember him saying that he'd done as much as he could with certain players and then he continued to pick them. Like i said, is there really any strategy in place at all, or is he just making it up as he goes along?
That isn't what was said quite now was it?

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Re: Liam Feeney

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:14 pm

BL3 wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:You can have a strategy, but if it's not working you try something else. If that doesn't work you lose your job.
This isn't some sort of finishing school for budding managers. There's only any point in persisting with him if you think he has what it takes to 'get us back on track', which he was brought in to do a year ago. Automatic promotion means 2ppg. Play-offs is nearer 1.5ppg. We're nowhere near either of those totals yet.
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