The Great Art Debate

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And I see that you've satiated your predilection for 'filling-in' with the inclusion of ET on the left there.

I'm being very good at the moment. That's a Ferrari if you don't mind.

(It was actually in the photo, so not just me).

Fxck, I thought it was a cabbage, or at least a bush (sorry Tango).

A cabbage with headlights? You a Picasso fan Spots?

Slick with rain, the highlights on the shiny-leafed cabbage drawing the young lady sashaying towards it for a quick munch. The Magic Realism school of painting, doncha know.

(of course, now you point it out, I can quite clearly see it is a car, although the laws of painting state that all Ferraris are red).

[TANGODANCER]

Did I say, Ferrari? Slip of the tongue, hard to make out it's a Bugati in the rain.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Did I say, Ferrari? Slip of the tongue, hard to make out it's a Bugati in the rain.

Why didn't you say so. If you'd said Bugati I'd have seen it straightaway.

[Bruce Rioja]

Did I say, Ferrari? Slip of the tongue, hard to make out it's a Bugati in the rain.

He had to make do with a basket on a pushbike the last time I saw it.

[TANGODANCER]

Did I say, Ferrari? Slip of the tongue, hard to make out it's a Bugati in the rain.

He had to make do with a basket on a pushbike the last time I saw it.

That's because you're not seeing the intrinsic principals and viewing it at the wrong angle to the hypotenuse, and the rain is giving you a sort of prism/kaleidescope perspective making it appear to be transversing across the page instead of bearing down on you. Wear a sou-wester hat when you view it and try to rest your chin on a cupped hand and it'll all become clear to you if you look deeply enough. (cough) .

[Montreal Wanderer]

Did I say, Ferrari? Slip of the tongue, hard to make out it's a Bugati in the rain.

In looking at the original I could not begin to guess at the make of the car. In looking a Tango's painting I leaned towards Bruce's view, although like Spotty I saw it was a car when pointed out (driving apparently on the right). Keep it up, Tango.

[TANGODANCER]

Decided to try something a bit more ambitious, one of my favourite fictional characters ever. Elizabeth Bennet from Pride and Prejudice.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Are you using watercolour, acrylics or pastels there Tango. Are you drawing first and then colouring in, or composing from layered paint?

I've got my father-in-laws paints, brushes and stuff in the garage. You've inspired me to have a go. I might as well use the stuff.

[TANGODANCER]

Speaking purely as a student LL, most of the methods I use have come from watching the art lessons available on Youtube,... and library books. I use watercolours, but you can't paint white over other colours so I usually lightly pencil the basic shapes in and leave the white areas untouched. I never use pure colours, ie straight out of the tube or pans, but mix everything. I use a big spare bathroom tile for mixing on as it can be easily washed off after. I use thickish, decent quality paper too because lighter stuff just wrinkles when wet.

It's good fun and I'm learning as I go. Get the stuff out and have a go mate.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I've inherited the lot, it includes big books of art paper, so I might as well otherwise it's just going to go to waste. I used to sketch (with pencils) when I was a student, but I don't think I've picked up a watercolour paintbrush since my school days. I don't think I'll touch any people or animals to start. I might do a landscape or something, then it'll be less likely to move and bugger off.

[TANGODANCER]

I've inherited the lot, it includes big books of art paper, so I might as well otherwise it's just going to go to waste. I used to sketch (with pencils) when I was a student, but I don't think I've picked up a watercolour paintbrush since my school days. I don't think I'll touch any people or animals to start. I might do a landscape or something, then it'll be less likely to move and bugger off.

I've noticed a lot of the good artists use cameras and work from photos. Unless you paint really fast this seems totally sensible to me. Not really the weather for outdoor painting right now.

[thebish]

I've inherited the lot, it includes big books of art paper, so I might as well otherwise it's just going to go to waste. I used to sketch (with pencils) when I was a student, but I don't think I've picked up a watercolour paintbrush since my school days. I don't think I'll touch any people or animals to start. I might do a landscape or something, then it'll be less likely to move and bugger off.

don't bother spotty - you'll be rubbish and you'll hate yourself!

(more wisdom from the Bish-school of motivational studies)

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I've inherited the lot, it includes big books of art paper, so I might as well otherwise it's just going to go to waste. I used to sketch (with pencils) when I was a student, but I don't think I've picked up a watercolour paintbrush since my school days. I don't think I'll touch any people or animals to start. I might do a landscape or something, then it'll be less likely to move and bugger off.

I've noticed a lot of the good artists use cameras and work from photos. Unless you paint really fast this seems totally sensible to me. Not really the weather for outdoor painting right now.

What I might do is have a quick look out for something to inspire me when I walk the dog out in an hour from now, and snap it with my wife's digital camera. and then tonight I might have a bit of an experiment and throw some paint about, and then if I'm feeling confident have a go at doing a realistic interpretation of the photo. I don't think I'm up for going straight into pointillism or impressionism or any other technique-ism right from the off, but I'll know better once I've actually splashed some coloured water about.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I've inherited the lot, it includes big books of art paper, so I might as well otherwise it's just going to go to waste. I used to sketch (with pencils) when I was a student, but I don't think I've picked up a watercolour paintbrush since my school days. I don't think I'll touch any people or animals to start. I might do a landscape or something, then it'll be less likely to move and bugger off.

don't bother spotty - you'll be rubbish and you'll hate yourself!

(more wisdom from the Bish-school of motivational studies)

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Subject selected (google image search Barley Mow Bonsall and you'll get similar to photo I've just snapped). I might as well paint a pub - I should have a feel for that. I'm spend half an hour splashing some paint about to get the hang of it, and then give myself four hours to get a painting done. Here goes, bye bye.

[TANGODANCER]

Subject selected (google image search Barley Mow Bonsall and you'll get similar to photo I've just snapped). I might as well paint a pub - I should have a feel for that. I'm spend half an hour splashing some paint about to get the hang of it, and then give myself four hours to get a painting done. Here goes, bye bye.

Looks good. Will we be having the Morris Dancers in there?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No Tango, no Morris dancers. This is taking longer than I expected. I've only got the outline done and a couple of quick washes. How fecking long does this take to dry????

[TANGODANCER]

No Tango, no Morris dancers. This is taking longer than I expected. I've only got the outline done and a couple of quick washes. How fecking long does this take to dry????

Using a hairdryer is common practise to speed things up.

[Bruce Rioja]

No Tango, no Morris dancers. This is taking longer than I expected. I've only got the outline done and a couple of quick washes. How fecking long does this take to dry????

Just don't forget the Vulcan Bomber. I've given up on Tango.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No Tango, no Morris dancers. This is taking longer than I expected. I've only got the outline done and a couple of quick washes. How fecking long does this take to dry????

Using a hairdryer is common practise to speed things up.

Asked the missus, we haven't got one. Presently residing on top of a radiator.
And why, oh why did I pick a whitewashed building to try... What a pillock I is.