Freedman out!

[Lord Kangana]

Its not just that, where the f*ck is everyone else? Its like a morgue on here lately. Can't help thinking, that despite what they might post, people are giving up on us psychologically. Its grim.

Or perhaps it's the tedious, whining bores who post the same opinions again and again and again and again, each time in almost identical words, that are putting people off spending time here.

Perhaps it would help if people were able to engage in debate more easily. So, for example when someone says (yet again) "It were shite" (I'm paraphrasing here for ease of understanding), might it be helpful for someone to challenge that view, beyond "No it weren't, it were ace"?

I for one have asked the question what it is that Dougie is doing "behind the scenes" that is making his poor run of results simply a small part of a grand masterplan. (Indeed, by extension, I could ask in a similar vein what it is that Coyle did that was so bad that needed a grand masterplan to fix).

But it seems no-one has a concrete answer to these things, or at least wants to voice it.

And if there is no direct correlation between effort expended on "behind the scenes" activity, and results with the first team, isn't it at least a little bit pertinent to ask the question of what exactly is going on? Surely, even the most optimistic of fans must be worrying a little about our league position, our bad performances?

And is it not up to us, as board members, just like in any marriage, to at least work on being civilised and civil? Sure, everyone loses their temper from time to time, but I don't see that as a reason to throw our collective hands up, or indeed throw in the towel and give up. Ultimately, we all want the same thing. BWFC to be doing far better than they are. Luckily we have a place to discuss our collective passion - its right here.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

<applause>
<hugs>
<uncomfortable silence>

[bobo the clown]

And they serve Magners at the Reebok. How difficult can it be to stock Strongbow?
Sack the board.

Same as pies being the price they are. Magners is more expensive to the customer but gives greater profit to the landlord.

... & not being Greenhalgh's !!! Y'know, the ones made 400 meters from the ground.

Outrageous.

Freedman out !!

[truewhite15]

And they serve Magners at the Reebok. How difficult can it be to stock Strongbow?
Sack the board.

Same as pies being the price they are. Magners is more expensive to the customer but gives greater profit to the landlord.

... & not being Greenhalgh's !!! Y'know, the ones made 400 meters from the ground.

Outrageous.

Freedman out !!

Nonsense. If you're gonna replace Hollands (and I can't see why you'd want to), you've got to switch to Carrs. And sell their pasties.

Greenhalgh's go for too much pepper for me.

On the Wanderers, it's always much harder to produce varied discussion when everything's as dire as it is right now. I can't for the life of me figure out what Freedman sees on the pitch, because to me, it looked like sticking with 442 was our best bet....

[Burnden Paddock]

And they serve Magners at the Reebok. How difficult can it be to stock Strongbow?
Sack the board.

Same as pies being the price they are. Magners is more expensive to the customer but gives greater profit to the landlord.

... & not being Greenhalgh's !!! Y'know, the ones made 400 meters from the ground.Outrageous.

Freedman out !!

They're almost as expensive in their shops, as Holland's are in the ground. We'd probably paying £3 or more for Greenhalgh's.

As an aside, is there anything hotter known to man than a Holland's pie served at the Reebok? Quite a contrast from the pies we used to be fed at Burnden.

[Lord Kangana]

If we still had the pies from the pie shop at Burnden, none of this would have happened. I don't like change, its not good.

[officer_dibble]

Its not just that, where the f*ck is everyone else? Its like a morgue on here lately. Can't help thinking, that despite what they might post, people are giving up on us psychologically. Its grim.

Since the birmingham fa cup game it really has been depressing to support this club. The semi was obviously the real catalyst. But its one long cycle ...short of my epiphany at the Wednesday match that this is our worst team and squad since I started going, I haven't got much to say.

We've bollocksed up that much we can't afford to sack the manager and his staff. And if we did the bloke who appointed him has ballsed up every managerial appointment made this century (barring the current one which we cant conclude upon yet), but he's eddies man and is here for the future it looks like. He isn't telling us much to comment on either . He's even ditched his twitter so that gives us nowt to talk about as well.

It just feels like we're sleepwalking at the moment. No excitement on a match day, no chance of changes off it. We haven't even got any youngsters coming through to in our hopes to.

[bobo the clown]

But otherwise Dibble, all systems go, eh ??

[officer_dibble]

I'm a glass half full kinda guy...

[Tombwfc]

Everything that needs to be said has been said, multiple times.

Until something changes (either Dougie leaves or we start to show considerable improvement), there is nothing worth adding.

[TANGODANCER]

Everything that needs to be said has been said, multiple times.

Until something changes (either Dougie leaves or we start to show considerable improvement), there is nothing worth adding.

I've never advocated bedsheet technology or asked for a manager to get sacked. Ever. That said, when our manager comes out with a staggering statment the "we'll have to learn how to defend a lead (a single goal one, mind) it has to be really worrying. Lads in the Boys Fed could work that one out and think maybe it would be better to worry about scoring, something that when it actually does happen, it's by anybody but our so-called strikers.

[SmokinFrazier]

Freedman's opinion that we need to change our gameplan when going in front is odd, considering we've been doing that all the time he's been here. We tend to play in spurts, get a goal and and then defend it, so what Freedman is saying he will do is nothing different to what he's been trying to do throughout his entire reign in charge.

I don't think he means what he says, I think it's just an attempt to make the fans think he knows what is wrong and can change it.

[bobo the clown]

Very worrying indeed. He's not helping himself.

I fear it means he'll whip Knight on and go 5 at the back ... plus Medo & Spearing so have 7 defensive out-players (& if N'Gog's on it amounts to another non-attacker).

I hope to fck we never go one up in the first 10 minutes !!

[StaffsTrotter]

perhaps we could ask the club to run therapy sessions as part of the S-T benefits. We'd certainly be interesting case studies - look at the factors

suffered the traumas of bad player injuries, near deaths, Cup SF humiliation, PL relegation & near miss play off place

we've changed our manager - who has supposedly overturned everything behind the scenes for the better

signed lots of new players and even loan players with Champ'ship experience & 'the right attitude'

the scapegoat players have been banished

Thus 90% of normal 'fixes' suggested by fans have been tried and its all still worse than it was with no obvious signs of getting better where it matters.

the manager comes out with drivel and yet the majority think he is the manager to lead us to better times

Its no wonder our collective psychological state of mind could be described as f***ed.

To slightly amend Toms view, DF has to fluke some results and hopefully we build some momentum from there or he has to go. The club cannot afford to go down (in every sense of the word)

[Lord Kangana]

Ok, so we've all basically given up then? Is this the depression or acceptance stage?

Anyway, lets all hope he gets lucky quite soon, otherwise we'll end up in an irretrievable mess and quite soon. We've tried putting our faith in him, what about if we all now do a collective finger-and-toe-cross for saturday. That'll help, right?

[StaffsTrotter]

Ok, so we've all basically given up then? Is this the depression or acceptance stage?

Anyway, lets all hope he gets lucky quite soon, otherwise we'll end up in an irretrievable mess and quite soon. We've tried putting our faith in him, what about if we all now do a collective finger-and-toe-cross for saturday. That'll help, right?

sounds like the best plan - although putting Zat up front and hoping he hits a Dawsonesque vein of scoring form is a close second

[bwfcdan94]

I'm a glass half full kinda guy...

Boo, I am a glass half empty kind of person .

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

If we still had the pies from the pie shop at Burnden, none of this would have happened. I don't like change, its not good.

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[Andy Waller]

If we still had the pies from the pie shop at Burnden, none of this would have happened. I don't like change, its not good.

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Is that story about Kevin Pressman??

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just seen this, which rings true:

It's the high level of expectancy combined with lack of understanding that leads to intolerance of bad play and nervousness from the stands and players. This is true in many grounds but especially at [our ground]. I'm always hearing contradictory complaints: "get the ball forward!", "Do something with it!" when we keep the ball, then when a pass goes astray it's all groans and "Keep possession!". Basically there's a lot more focus on the negative than the positive.