Freedman out!

[boltonboris]

Big frustration of mine that.

The bloke behind me just yells "FORWARD" as soon as the 3rd pass we complete doesn't go past the halfway line... Absolute whopper

[Athers]

Big frustration of mine that.

The bloke behind me just yells "FORWARD" as soon as the 3rd pass we complete doesn't go past the halfway line... Absolute whopper

Has he always been there?

Was a chap was behind me a few times (North Upper) who always shouted this a while back, but he hasn't been around since I turned round and had a go at him

The latest is some guy complaining the entire match about Bogdan though so perhaps the only solution is a vetting system where you have to give a reasonable definition of what you think it is to recycle possession

I never understand, these older chaps have presumably seen a lot worse BWFC teams than I have

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just seen this, which rings true:

It's the high level of expectancy combined with lack of understanding that leads to intolerance of bad play and nervousness from the stands and players. This is true in many grounds but especially at [our ground]. I'm always hearing contradictory complaints: "get the ball forward!", "Do something with it!" when we keep the ball, then when a pass goes astray it's all groans and "Keep possession!". Basically there's a lot more focus on the negative than the positive.

I completely sympathise with him in that respect, however on the other side of the coin there's not really all that much to be positive about. We lack creativity, flair, innovation, whatever buzzword you want to use for us going forward. We're bland, boring and uninspired so it's no wonder the fanbase are jumping on negativity. We're not creating chances and the handful we do in games are spurned.

I don't think there'd be so much criticism if we were playing well and losing, the problem is we're playing very poorly regardless of the result. It's gotten to the point where I can't stomach following games (even our beloved Radio Tango!) at the weekend now.

It's a quote from a fan of Tottenham, who are fourth in the Premier League.

[Gary the Enfield]

Just seen this, which rings true:

It's the high level of expectancy combined with lack of understanding that leads to intolerance of bad play and nervousness from the stands and players. This is true in many grounds but especially at [our ground]. I'm always hearing contradictory complaints: "get the ball forward!", "Do something with it!" when we keep the ball, then when a pass goes astray it's all groans and "Keep possession!". Basically there's a lot more focus on the negative than the positive.

I completely sympathise with him in that respect, however on the other side of the coin there's not really all that much to be positive about. We lack creativity, flair, innovation, whatever buzzword you want to use for us going forward. We're bland, boring and uninspired so it's no wonder the fanbase are jumping on negativity. We're not creating chances and the handful we do in games are spurned.

I don't think there'd be so much criticism if we were playing well and losing, the problem is we're playing very poorly regardless of the result. It's gotten to the point where I can't stomach following games (even our beloved Radio Tango!) at the weekend now.

It's a quote from a fan of Tottenham, who are fourth in the Premier League.

Boom.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

[Gary the Enfield]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither. I just want the club to do better than it is and for the manager (whoever it is) to do well. I want my team to battle and scrap for every point. I want the crowd to cheer the team on and off the pitch and not to piss and moan at every misplaced pass in between.

I've stated this both on here and in public with my family before and have been told 'you don't pay to watch this shit every week'. Well, quite. But can't people see that they are giving every successive manager (and the players he brings in) less and less time to succeed. So they don't. I avoid posting on match threads more and more as I can't bring myself to follow the games live. I check the scores and read the match threads and see the same old suspects almost gleeful that we've lost because it gives them a chance to 'I told you so' for a few more days. They (largely) disappeared towards the end of last season during our Halcyon period, only to return after the Blackpool game.

I sometimes think we largely get the football we deserve.

[mrplow]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither. I just want the club to do better than it is and for the manager (whoever it is) to do well. I want my team to battle and scrap for every point. I want the crowd to cheer the team on and off the pitch and not to piss and moan at every misplaced pass in between.

I've stated this both on here and in public with my family before and have been told 'you don't pay to watch this shit every week'. Well, quite. But can't people see that they are giving every successive manager (and the players he brings in) less and less time to succeed. So they don't. I avoid posting on match threads more and more as I can't bring myself to follow the games live. I check the scores and read the match threads and see the same old suspects almost gleeful that we've lost because it gives them a chance to 'I told you so' for a few more days. They (largely) disappeared towards the end of last season during our Halcyon period, only to return after the Blackpool game.

I sometimes think we largely get the football we deserve.

Personally I think the fans at the game have been pretty patient. I've yet to hear a 'you don't know what you're doing' chant, even if all the evidence in front of us is that he doesn't.

I don't see any evidence that people bitching and moaning on the Internet has any bearing on what happens on the pitch.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither.

Personally I think the fans at the game have been pretty patient. I've yet to hear a 'you don't know what you're doing' chant

...as some Norwich fans were singing on Saturday.

While their team was piling up 31 shots, 10 of them on target.

[TKIZ!]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither. I just want the club to do better than it is and for the manager (whoever it is) to do well. I want my team to battle and scrap for every point. I want the crowd to cheer the team on and off the pitch and not to piss and moan at every misplaced pass in between.

I've stated this both on here and in public with my family before and have been told 'you don't pay to watch this shit every week'. Well, quite. But can't people see that they are giving every successive manager (and the players he brings in) less and less time to succeed. So they don't. I avoid posting on match threads more and more as I can't bring myself to follow the games live. I check the scores and read the match threads and see the same old suspects almost gleeful that we've lost because it gives them a chance to 'I told you so' for a few more days. They (largely) disappeared towards the end of last season during our Halcyon period, only to return after the Blackpool game.

I sometimes think we largely get the football we deserve.

Very good post that, sir.

[Tombwfc]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither.

Personally I think the fans at the game have been pretty patient. I've yet to hear a 'you don't know what you're doing' chant

...as some Norwich fans were singing on Saturday.

While their team was piling up 31 shots, 10 of them on target.

I'm honestly at a loss as to how that, or the previously posted quote from a Spurs fan, has any bearing on our situation.

[ChrisC]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither.

Personally I think the fans at the game have been pretty patient. I've yet to hear a 'you don't know what you're doing' chant

...as some Norwich fans were singing on Saturday.

While their team was piling up 31 shots, 10 of them on target.

Let them keep singing it. Would love Chris Hughton here if Dougie gets the boot. Proved he has what it takes in this league. Won it with Newcastle only losing 3 or 4 games that season and took a weak Birmingham team to the group stages in Europe and finished 4th in the league the same season.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied. Disclaimer: this does not mean I think Freedman is brilliant.

Agreed. Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither.

Personally I think the fans at the game have been pretty patient. I've yet to hear a 'you don't know what you're doing' chant

...as some Norwich fans were singing on Saturday. While their team was piling up 31 shots, 10 of them on target.

I'm honestly at a loss as to how that, or the previously posted quote from a Spurs fan, has any bearing on our situation.

Point is, many a football fan is dissatisfied.

People are wondering why the atmosphere round here's hardly joyous. I'm pointing out that there's quite a few supporters feeling fairly hacked off.

[BL3]

Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither. I just want the club to do better than it is and for the manager (whoever it is) to do well. I want my team to battle and scrap for every point. I want the crowd to cheer the team on and off the pitch and not to piss and moan at every misplaced pass in between.

Life is not a comic strip.

[jaffka]

Opinion appears to be if you're not for Freedman you're against him. I'm neither. I just want the club to do better than it is and for the manager (whoever it is) to do well. I want my team to battle and scrap for every point. I want the crowd to cheer the team on and off the pitch and not to piss and moan at every misplaced pass in between.

Life is not a comic strip.

Hello Mr Monotone.

[Gooner Girl]

Just seen this, which rings true:

It's the high level of expectancy combined with lack of understanding that leads to intolerance of bad play and nervousness from the stands and players. This is true in many grounds but especially at [our ground]. I'm always hearing contradictory complaints: "get the ball forward!", "Do something with it!" when we keep the ball, then when a pass goes astray it's all groans and "Keep possession!". Basically there's a lot more focus on the negative than the positive.

I completely sympathise with him in that respect, however on the other side of the coin there's not really all that much to be positive about. We lack creativity, flair, innovation, whatever buzzword you want to use for us going forward. We're bland, boring and uninspired so it's no wonder the fanbase are jumping on negativity. We're not creating chances and the handful we do in games are spurned.

I don't think there'd be so much criticism if we were playing well and losing, the problem is we're playing very poorly regardless of the result. It's gotten to the point where I can't stomach following games (even our beloved Radio Tango!) at the weekend now.

It's a quote from a fan of Tottenham, who are fourth in the Premier League.

Since when did spurs fan's know anything about football?

[William the White]

Just seen this, which rings true:

It's the high level of expectancy combined with lack of understanding that leads to intolerance of bad play and nervousness from the stands and players. This is true in many grounds but especially at [our ground]. I'm always hearing contradictory complaints: "get the ball forward!", "Do something with it!" when we keep the ball, then when a pass goes astray it's all groans and "Keep possession!". Basically there's a lot more focus on the negative than the positive.

I completely sympathise with him in that respect, however on the other side of the coin there's not really all that much to be positive about. We lack creativity, flair, innovation, whatever buzzword you want to use for us going forward. We're bland, boring and uninspired so it's no wonder the fanbase are jumping on negativity. We're not creating chances and the handful we do in games are spurned.

I don't think there'd be so much criticism if we were playing well and losing, the problem is we're playing very poorly regardless of the result. It's gotten to the point where I can't stomach following games (even our beloved Radio Tango!) at the weekend now.

It's a quote from a fan of Tottenham, who are fourth in the Premier League.

Since when did spurs fan's know anything about football?

They're good at punctuation, I hear.

[alonga6]

Dougie is doing okay from where I'm sat. Thanks

[bwfcdan94]

It just dawned on me today that tomorrow is November and we still haven't won a home game! .

[Nicko58]

Could it not be that our most creative players are out with injury; those that have failed to perform under Coyle haven't shown that they are willing to for Dougie either; those who we would like to move on won't leave as they'd be hard pressed to find a better contract elsewhere and that we don't have the cash to allow Dougie to sign the players that he'd like?

[bwfcdan94]

That as well.