The Great Art Debate

[Athers]

Hello Art fans

Went to the Museo Botero in Bogota, Colombia, a couple of weeks ago: Free entry and lots of fun fat people of course, but also some other international stuff which I attempted to be provoked by.

http://www.banrepcultural.org/museo-bot ... nacionales" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a few famous names there.

Also went to the Gold Museum (Museo Del Oro) which was rather good too, the ancient peoples of the region had more of the stuff than they knew what to do with! Some of the craftsmanship was really good considering no magnifying glasses, precision tools and so on.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Hello Art fans

Went to the Museo Botero in Bogota, Colombia, a couple of weeks ago: Free entry and lots of fun fat people of course, but also some other international stuff which I attempted to be provoked by.

http://www.banrepcultural.org/museo-bot ... nacionales" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a few famous names there.

Also went to the Gold Museum (Museo Del Oro) which was rather good too, the ancient peoples of the region had more of the stuff than they knew what to do with! Some of the craftsmanship was really good considering no magnifying glasses, precision tools and so on.

So were you provoked by anything?

And we've got loads of stuff from that Museo Del Oro in the El Dorado exhibition currently running at the British Museum - I went a few weeks ago and was underwhelmed, as most of it seemed to be gold hammered to the thickness of a drinks can.

[Athers]

I rather liked this one by Rauschenberg, calm of the green, brightness of the red, the contrast. I guess it was about life, mood, something like that.

http://www.banrepcultural.org/obras/rob ... age-series" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I remember it being greener as here http://www.flickr.com/photos/sixteen-miles/6659601133/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I found myself taking a liking to the bright colourful shapey type ones - Calder, Joaquín Torres García, Polikoff, but I don't know exactly why and don't think I'd enjoy a museum full of them either!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bobo the clown]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Yes - I imagine it must have been very powerful listening when the Civil Rights movement, Vietnam etc were current affairs and not 'history'.

[bobo the clown]

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Yes - I imagine it must have been very powerful listening when the Civil Rights movement, Vietnam etc were current affairs and not 'history'.

I suppose it could always be updated, but for me would be best left as a moment in time.

Barclay James Harvest's "Child of the Universe" is similar. Based in the mid-70's and with a British focus. Again, remains powerful.

"I'm a child of South Africa,
I'm a child of Vietnam.
I'm a child of Northern Ireland,
I'm a small boy with blood on his hands.
Yes I'm a child of the universe,
Yes I'm a child of the universe.
You can see me on the TV every night,
Always there to join in someone else's fight."

In fact, that the awful, at the time seemingly interminable, issues now seem out of date is good as it gives you some optimism that today's issues MAY be history in due course. Always to be replaced by fresh issues of course, but nonetheless ...

[William the White]

Hello Art fans

Went to the Museo Botero in Bogota, Colombia, a couple of weeks ago: Free entry and lots of fun fat people of course, but also some other international stuff which I attempted to be provoked by.

http://www.banrepcultural.org/museo-bot ... nacionales" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite a few famous names there.

Also went to the Gold Museum (Museo Del Oro) which was rather good too, the ancient peoples of the region had more of the stuff than they knew what to do with! Some of the craftsmanship was really good considering no magnifying glasses, precision tools and so on.

Plenty of very good stuff in that international collection... Some very fine artists.

I'd like to see the Botero collection in real life, so difficult to get a sense of an artist's work on a little screen. But my hunch says I would enjoy it. Did you Athers?

His Abu Graib collection looks truly disturbing.

[William the White]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

Yes, very powerful... I'd totally forgotten it...

[Athers]

There were none of that collection there, so it was less disturbing and more fun pictures of fat men with painted toenails in the bath, fat Mona Lisa etc.

It's a lot of fun, especially the ones with horses and cheeky bearded men, but I struggled to appreciate it all - there were some I felt easily able to stroll right past - one just a painting of a big fat pear, for example!

http://www.banrepcultural.org/obras/fer ... otero/pera" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apparently all museums are free on a Sunday and it's a big Bogota tradition to take the family to one of them.

Never replied to mummy about gold - the circular plates and such were indeed pretty dull but I did like the crafted ones - there was a huge conch and a beautiful musical instrument for example.

[thebish]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

am I missing summat? what references? all I can see is a film if a candle and Simon & Garfunkel singing a fairly straightforward version of Silent Night...

[bobo the clown]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

am I missing summat? what references? all I can see is a film if a candle and Simon & Garfunkel singing a fairly straightforward version of Silent Night...

???? Play it again, Sam.

[William the White]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

am I missing summat? what references? all I can see is a film if a candle and Simon & Garfunkel singing a fairly straightforward version of Silent Night...

Balance your speakers thebish!

[thebish]

I like a good Pop Art collage... it occurred to me recently that they're effective in the same way that this is, from around the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WcwH46Sbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One hell of an interpretation. I was playing it a couple of weeks ago and was terrifically moved by it.

I was young teens when it was released and, of course, all the references were live back then.

Well delivered mummy...

am I missing summat? what references? all I can see is a film if a candle and Simon & Garfunkel singing a fairly straightforward version of Silent Night...

Balance your speakers thebish!

ahhh - it's one of those stereo jobbies where you have summat different coming out of each speaker! clearly my computer speakers are not as stereo as i imagined!!

phew - thought you'd all gone mad!

[William the White]

I rather liked this one by Rauschenberg, calm of the green, brightness of the red, the contrast. I guess it was about life, mood, something like that.

http://www.banrepcultural.org/obras/rob ... age-series" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I remember it being greener as here http://www.flickr.com/photos/sixteen-miles/6659601133/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I found myself taking a liking to the bright colourful shapey type ones - Calder, Joaquín Torres García, Polikoff, but I don't know exactly why and don't think I'd enjoy a museum full of them either!

Some very engaging stuff there, athers. Feel a bit jealous!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy85h4MJQos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hope our artists in residence are never moved to this...

[TANGODANCER]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy85h4MJQos

I hope our artists in residence are never moved to this...

Perfectly normal reaction to something you paint that you don't like. Calmer versions are making paper aeroplanes or simply teating them into as many pieces as you can manage.

[William the White]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy85h4MJQos

I hope our artists in residence are never moved to this...

I thought the quality of feedback she was getting was abysmal...

[bobo the clown]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy85h4MJQos

I hope our artists in residence are never moved to this...

Ooooh. Temper, temper.


... or is it staged and has she just made a name for herself ?

[Bruce Rioja]

... or is it staged and has she just made a name for herself ?

That's what I thought. And on that evidence she'll be hard pressed to sustain herself by peddling that shite!