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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:01 pm

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DJBlu wrote:Why did he take Hall off and play for 3-3?

fecking annoyed is an understatement. Leicesters defence was a shite as ours yet they went for it. We could have left it as is and played 10 mins to see if we could have scored.

I doubt it. Hall wasn't having any real effect on the game - he wasn't in it - a huge problem needed to be sorted at right back - Pratley coming on to add some steel and help out was the right move... had he left it as it was it would have been 9-3.

all the subs made sense today.

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:02 pm

Last sentence.

I'm sure deep down you understand taking the positives from a series of results leaving us 18th at the start of 2014 is not progress. Though it is a start that we may look fired up. Thank f*ck we've got the best backroom set-up in Europe to fall back on.
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by thebish » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:03 pm

conclusive proof that pun-free match thread titles are BAD!

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by thebish » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:07 pm

By the way..

Bruce will confirm that Zat was IMMENSE today! :wink:

both me and WtW heard him cheering for Zat under his breath...

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:10 pm

That'd be the Zat Knight that Coyle re-signed if I remember correctly. Its fun this.
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by gcah2006 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:21 pm

Hope you don't mind a comment from a Leicester City fan who was at the game.

The first half was intense - absolute roller-coaster 45 minutes. All three of your goals were well-taken and why we give so much space for people to run at us, I'm still not sure about. The defending was really bad. But then, you'll say the same on the other side. Considering the opportunities and positions we carved open in the first 10 minutes, you could forgive conceding... but there was an element of luck for us in some of them.

Many people are going widely over-board with their criticism of Baptiste (in this game, at least). In the first ten minutes, you were deep defensively making it far easier for us to use our passing style to create positions and chances. Once you got a grip in the game, the defence played slightly higher up the pitch.... which makes it harder for us to carve you open (in my opinion). On the downside, it leaves space for both Dyer and Vardy to exploit their pace.

The Dyer vs Baptiste contest was ridiculously one-sided... but as a defender with a massive speed/acceleration disadvantage, what can you do? I thought Baptiste did about as well as you can expect him to do when left to defend that one-on-one. I thought Zat Knight left him horribly isolated at times, but I'm not a former-Premier League defender.... so what do I know? Once Baptiste picked up the booking, I was urging Dyer to take him on more because he was tentative to throw in a tackle. I agree that the substitution at half-time was to contend with this threat as Dyer was double-marked at the start of the second half.

But inevitably, I think the substitution resulted in us having an easier grip on the midfield and dominating the tempo of the game from there. It's a situation I don't envy Freedman for because you're conceding ground one way or the other.

Obviously I'm delighted because we got the win out of this game but the defending is a cause for concern. Not the first time a team has run at us to cause us problems.

P.S. Credit to Jermaine Beckford... we gave him many "Beckford, what's the score chants?" and he responded with his goal celebration. But at the end of the game, he had the decency to clap to Leicester fans. It might have gone unnoticed by many as it was late after the whistle but it gets a +1 from me. 8) (He played horrible today - bar a goal which was coolly finished, he offered nothing while seemingly lazy and lethargic. And won possibly one aerial battle all game. Seemed to run in circles pretending to make runs in the second half)

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:22 pm

thebish wrote:By the way..

Bruce will confirm that Zat was IMMENSE today! :wink:

both me and WtW heard him cheering for Zat under his breath...
Credit where it's due, Bish. I don't recall seeing Knight have a better game. Mills, with the exception of his distribution, looked sound, as did Ream at Left Back. Their key to getting in around the back rested with Dyer on the left wing, whereas today's 'out of his depth' defender was Baptiste at Right Back, who spent his entire afternoon getting stitched up like a kipper. :hang:
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:25 pm

Losing 5-3 in a pulsating match away to the league leaders is OK ... if it wasn't on top of all the previous shite. Regrettably the othet losses and draws mean we are now 18th. That is not OK.

I quite like the up & at 'em we seem to have show in the first half. Odd that, once again, he contradicts his own statements ... in this case that he wasn't going to go out attacking. I don't mind that he did I just wish I thought he had even the faintest clue what he is up to.

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:49 pm

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TANGODANCER wrote: I've supported Bolton all my life but never felt quite as jaded as right now.
Does not compute. Not on any level. Seriously! Give your head a shake, Tango.:conf:
Are you telling me how I should feel Bruce? We led 3-2 and lost 5-3, we're in the wrong end of the Championship and I shouldn't feel jaded? This isn't Burnden Park in the fifties but football in the millenium. The game's ruled by money....and we don't have any. I don't get to games and rely on others views for accuracy. I don't make even call players. I just go off how we're doing and, since we came out of the Prem, that hasn't been exactly brilliant, has it. I also make a point of asking for views from those who get to the game. I respect those views, but right now I feel jaded....
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by William the White » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:53 pm

gcah2006 wrote:Hope you don't mind a comment from a Leicester City fan who was at the game.

The first half was intense - absolute roller-coaster 45 minutes. All three of your goals were well-taken and why we give so much space for people to run at us, I'm still not sure about. The defending was really bad. But then, you'll say the same on the other side. Considering the opportunities and positions we carved open in the first 10 minutes, you could forgive conceding... but there was an element of luck for us in some of them.

Many people are going widely over-board with their criticism of Baptiste (in this game, at least). In the first ten minutes, you were deep defensively making it far easier for us to use our passing style to create positions and chances. Once you got a grip in the game, the defence played slightly higher up the pitch.... which makes it harder for us to carve you open (in my opinion). On the downside, it leaves space for both Dyer and Vardy to exploit their pace.

The Dyer vs Baptiste contest was ridiculously one-sided... but as a defender with a massive speed/acceleration disadvantage, what can you do? I thought Baptiste did about as well as you can expect him to do when left to defend that one-on-one. I thought Zat Knight left him horribly isolated at times, but I'm not a former-Premier League defender.... so what do I know? Once Baptiste picked up the booking, I was urging Dyer to take him on more because he was tentative to throw in a tackle. I agree that the substitution at half-time was to contend with this threat as Dyer was double-marked at the start of the second half.

But inevitably, I think the substitution resulted in us having an easier grip on the midfield and dominating the tempo of the game from there. It's a situation I don't envy Freedman for because you're conceding ground one way or the other.

Obviously I'm delighted because we got the win out of this game but the defending is a cause for concern. Not the first time a team has run at us to cause us problems.

P.S. Credit to Jermaine Beckford... we gave him many "Beckford, what's the score chants?" and he responded with his goal celebration. But at the end of the game, he had the decency to clap to Leicester fans. It might have gone unnoticed by many as it was late after the whistle but it gets a +1 from me. 8) (He played horrible today - bar a goal which was coolly finished, he offered nothing while seemingly lazy and lethargic. And won possibly one aerial battle all game. Seemed to run in circles pretending to make runs in the second half)
A really fair summary of the game, that Leicester certainly deserved to win because of their second half dominance. Beckford 'plays horrible' in a lot of games. If he 'coolly finishes' one a match he's forgiven...

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:54 pm

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TANGODANCER wrote: I've supported Bolton all my life but never felt quite as jaded as right now.
Does not compute. Not on any level. Seriously! Give your head a shake, Tango.:conf:
Are you telling me how I should feel Bruce? We led 3-2 and lost 5-3, we're in the wrong end of the Championship and I shouldn't feel jaded? This isn't Burnden Park in the fifties but football in the millenium. The game's ruled by money....and we don't have any. I don't get to games and rely on others views for accuracy. I don't make even call players. I just go off how we're doing and, since we came out of the Prem, that hasn't been exactly brilliant, has it. I also make a point of asking for views from those who get to the game. I respect those views, but right now I feel jaded....
I appreciate that you may feel jaded just now, but you've never felt as jaded as you do now? Seriously? How did you feel after the Aldershot games then? And I've no idea what "I don't make even call players" means. :conf:
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:00 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote: I've supported Bolton all my life but never felt quite as jaded as right now.
Does not compute. Not on any level. Seriously! Give your head a shake, Tango.:conf:
Are you telling me how I should feel Bruce? We led 3-2 and lost 5-3, we're in the wrong end of the Championship and I shouldn't feel jaded? This isn't Burnden Park in the fifties but football in the millenium. The game's ruled by money....and we don't have any. I don't get to games and rely on others views for accuracy. I don't make even call players. I just go off how we're doing and, since we came out of the Prem, that hasn't been exactly brilliant, has it. I also make a point of asking for views from those who get to the game. I respect those views, but right now I feel jaded....
I appreciate that you may feel jaded just now, but you've never felt as jaded as you do now? Seriously? How did you feel after the Aldershot games then? And I've no idea what "I don't make even call players" means. :conf:
It's simple enough. Mean's I don't make judgements on players I'm not seeing when others chew em up. Would be a bit silly if I did. Football's advanced a fair old way and it's getting harder yearly to compete. I want us to do well again, but right now it's seeming rather hard.

Edit, just seen the "make" that shouldn't be in there. It should have just read I don't call them. Sorry.
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:16 am

That's just absolute gibberish. What the feck are you talking about, man? Are you with A1? Chew players up? Football's advanced a fair old way? Explain to me why you've never felt as jaded as you do now? That's what I asked. Going back to the Aldershot games, how did you feel after them? The question's very simple. :conf:
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by gcah2006 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:34 am

William the White wrote:A really fair summary of the game, that Leicester certainly deserved to win because of their second half dominance. Beckford 'plays horrible' in a lot of games. If he 'coolly finishes' one a match he's forgiven...
Seems he's scored a few goals for you... what if he plays like that, doesn't score every game and his goal to game ratio drops worse than 1 in 4? With the sum of money we paid, you can see why he's isn't exactly a club favourite. :)

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:07 am

My question for Dougie is...

Why, if Dyer is a known terroriser of full backs and Baptiste has form for struggling against said type of winger, did you play Hall in front of him? Any sane person would put someone that might offer a bit of protection there from the start. It might have been the right substitution, but he should never have needed to make it in the first place.

Bobo is right. This defeat is alright in itself, but in context of the season and last 14 months it is not ok.

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by William the White » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:52 am

gcah2006 wrote:
William the White wrote:A really fair summary of the game, that Leicester certainly deserved to win because of their second half dominance. Beckford 'plays horrible' in a lot of games. If he 'coolly finishes' one a match he's forgiven...
Seems he's scored a few goals for you... what if he plays like that, doesn't score every game and his goal to game ratio drops worse than 1 in 4? With the sum of money we paid, you can see why he's isn't exactly a club favourite. :)
He's a really frustrating player, that's for sure. And hardly a club favourite at Bolton either.

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by thebish » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:55 am

bobo the clown wrote:Losing 5-3 in a pulsating match away to the league leaders is OK ... if it wasn't on top of all the previous shite. Regrettably the othet losses and draws mean we are now 18th. That is not OK.

I quite like the up & at 'em we seem to have show in the first half. Odd that, once again, he contradicts his own statements ... in this case that he wasn't going to go out attacking. I don't mind that he did I just wish I thought he had even the faintest clue what he is up to.

we certainly didn't start the game with an "up and at 'em" mindset - we didn't go out attacking - we sat back and got murdered for 10mins... the attacking only appeared after we went one down... that was a change of plan - though not through substitution... (I don't know if it was a dougie-orchestrated change of plan, or Moritz thinking "feck it - I'm going to run with the ball and have a go...")

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by thebish » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:57 am

Lord Kangana wrote:That'd be the Zat Knight that Coyle re-signed if I remember correctly. Its fun this.
:conf: what's fun?

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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:58 am

Life bish. You should try it.
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Re: Pun free Leicester thread

Post by thebish » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:06 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Life bish. You should try it.
yes - but what on earth has me gently teasing Bruce about his Knight-o-phobia in reference to something me and WtW said to him at the game got to do with who signed knight? and if you have a life - why is randomly announcing who signed knight such a stand-out fun event for you? :conf:

perhaps you could really enjoy life to the max and randomly point out which manager signed other players - that would be such a hoot!

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