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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:49 pm

Athers wrote:Summary on the radio last night was saying how the door was taken off its hinges and policemen were just standing on it etc. as they were stomping around. Also that the fragments of door were never recovered. I remember the first investigating officer was an idiot as well. Incredible stuff from the SA police. If there's much more of this incompetence I presume it could get him cleared on technical grounds regardless of what the story looks like?
Police incompetence and lies, more than the race card, got O.J. Simpson off IMHO. DA didn't help with the glove.
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Post by Athers » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:50 pm

I do find it curious when the jury hears something they shouldn't and the judge asks them to remove that from their thinking. But like a referee in front of a vociferous home crowd, they can't help it. Not sure there's a way around that though as you wouldn't re-do a whole trial for one slip!
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boltonboris wrote:I think it's fair to say that most of us would be shit on a jury
Not fair to say because on a jury we'd be sat in court, day after day hearing every detail from every witness and every piece of evidence being scrutinised. Then we'd take our evidence packs away and debate our thoughts before reaching a verdict.

I think it is fair to say that some people would be shit on a jury but I reckon most people on here would actually be pretty good when compared against the average.

Hoboh excepted of course.
Personally I'd struggle to pay much attention beyond the first hour. The tediousness of the cross examinations would be too much for me.
Certainly not saying it is easy, but it is all about how your concentration compares to the average I guess......

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:55 pm

There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:55 pm

Athers wrote:I do find it curious when the jury hears something they shouldn't and the judge asks them to remove that from their thinking. But like a referee in front of a vociferous home crowd, they can't help it. Not sure there's a way around that though as you wouldn't re-do a whole trial for one slip!
I suppose ir would depend on the nature of the 'slip'. These slips are frequently deliberate. For sure "The jury will disregard that remark' is certain to make them think about it more. If the slip is more serious the 'slipper' could be found in contempt. If it seriously damages the accused's right to a fair trial, a mistrial could be called.
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boltonboris wrote:I think it's fair to say that most of us would be shit on a jury
Not fair to say because on a jury we'd be sat in court, day after day hearing every detail from every witness and every piece of evidence being scrutinised. Then we'd take our evidence packs away and debate our thoughts before reaching a verdict.

I think it is fair to say that some people would be shit on a jury but I reckon most people on here would actually be pretty good when compared against the average.

Hoboh excepted of course.
Personally I'd struggle to pay much attention beyond the first hour. The tediousness of the cross examinations would be too much for me.
Certainly not saying it is easy, but it is all about how your concentration compares to the average I guess......
I've hit the stage of life where I don't do stuff I don't want to. Listening to a barrister trying to twist a single witnesses words for an entire day is not on my list of things to concentrate on.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:00 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
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Bruce Rioja wrote:There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
One thing's for sure, I doubt the prosecution will allow the defence to ask the girl to identify his 'podging piece'.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:06 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: Has he got a beard?
Clearly he's just shaved it off on that very bus after having perpetrated the deed.

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Bruce Rioja wrote:There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
My favourite Little Hulton story was about 10-15 years ago when the Rotary club decided to take their motorised sleigh with Santa in the back around the estate. To be hijacked by youth throwing bricks and shouting feck off you red bastard.

The stoning of Santa Claus. Only in Little Hulton.

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Bruce Rioja wrote:There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
My favourite Little Hulton story was about 10-15 years ago when the Rotary club decided to take their motorised sleigh with Santa in the back around the estate. To be hijacked by youth throwing bricks and shouting feck off you red bastard.

The stoning of Santa Claus. Only in Little Hulton.
It's got to qualify as an entrant into Dan's Shit Towns on that story alone...
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William the White wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:There's quite an interesting case being reported in the Evening News. Some bloke's wapped his podging piece out in front of a 15 year old girl on the bus to Little Hulton and she's reported the matter to the Police. Cctv images of him (having put it away) have been released and a bloke's been arrested. Thing is, the bloke that they've arrested, although admitting that it does look uncannily like him and to owning similar clothes, says that it's not him and that he's the victim of a mistaken identity. How on earth can the prosecution possibly prove otherwise? :conf:
My favourite Little Hulton story was about 10-15 years ago when the Rotary club decided to take their motorised sleigh with Santa in the back around the estate. To be hijacked by youth throwing bricks and shouting feck off you red bastard.

The stoning of Santa Claus. Only in Little Hulton.
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Similarly a friend of a former colleague was a Rotarian and a few years ago it was his turn to play Santa through the sink estates of Accrington. A chip-eating youth approached the sleigh and asked Santa if he'd like a chip? To which he replied "Ho, ho, ho, yes, Santa wouldn't mind a chip" to which the youth responded "Well here, you can fecking well have them" before smashing Santa in the face with his bag of chips.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:40 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: Has he got a beard?
Clearly he's just shaved it off on that very bus after having perpetrated the deed.

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At least he looks to have a ticket for the bus :)

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:47 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote: At least he looks to have a ticket for the bus :)
Looks like it's stuck to his fingers too. :vomit:
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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:50 pm

I have to say, doing a couple of day's catching up, I'm disappointed that Pru hasn't pointed out to Bruce, that Pru doesn't need to prove Pistorius is innocent. Bruce needs to prove he's fecking guilty. it doesn't start off as a 50/50 between guilt and innocence.

(As it happens, I'm with Bruce on this one. Guilty (of something))

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:53 pm

Worthy4England wrote:I have to say, doing a couple of day's catching up, I'm disappointed that Pru hasn't pointed out to Bruce, that Pru doesn't need to prove Pistorius is innocent. Bruce needs to prove he's fecking guilty. it doesn't start off as a 50/50 between guilt and innocence.

(As it happens, I'm with Bruce on this one. Guilty (of something))
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:I have to say, doing a couple of day's catching up, I'm disappointed that Pru hasn't pointed out to Bruce, that Pru doesn't need to prove Pistorius is innocent. Bruce needs to prove he's fecking guilty. it doesn't start off as a 50/50 between guilt and innocence.

(As it happens, I'm with Bruce on this one. Guilty (of something))
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:I have to say, doing a couple of day's catching up, I'm disappointed that Pru hasn't pointed out to Bruce, that Pru doesn't need to prove Pistorius is innocent. Bruce needs to prove he's fecking guilty. it doesn't start off as a 50/50 between guilt and innocence.

(As it happens, I'm with Bruce on this one. Guilty (of something))
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Post by Prufrock » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:59 pm

I'm not trying to prove anything!

My own gut instinct is actually that he did it. I just think we're a long way away from having heard enough to say that's more than a gut feeling but based on a fair appraisal of evidence.
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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:14 pm

Prufrock wrote:I'm not trying to prove anything!

My own gut instinct is actually that he did it. I just think we're a long way away from having heard enough to say that's more than a gut feeling but based on a fair appraisal of evidence.
Good! You don't need to. Sit back, relax and let Brucie prove he did it. :D

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