The Great Art Debate
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I'll nip you down to B&Q, Will. I'll be able to recreate the whole thing in three minutes. Cost to you, Sir? A bargain £25KWilliam the White wrote:I don't think it means very much. But, obviously, I'm sorry that Bruce didn't include more of the surroundings so that we could see how they are thrown into focus. It looks to me as though they have bee installed with that possibility. That you could view the work of art from any side, or any angle. From the corners, crouching, kneeling or even lying on the floor. And Bruce really should have had the artistic sensitivity to have done this, or we have no chance of seeing the different focii available to the viewer.TANGODANCER wrote:"Equivalent V throws the surroundings into focus".......Does that mean the Whickes finest floor panels the bricks are laid on?William the White wrote:I'm devastated that seven of the eight of the original Equivalent series were destroyed.
Though the recreation of Equivalent V - albeit in different brick - is certainly to be celebrated. You must have felt awed and humble to have been there, Bruce.
I hope you didn't use flash to take the picture.

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Here's some more absolute shite that I pictured.
Three paper bags, Ladies and Gentlemen?

Or maybe some inflatable animals?

Who could possibly resist a sheet of glass on wheels? (I'm sure you can buy these at IKEA)

The most baffling one though - how come they had Jackson Pollock's studio floor on display, but none of his paintings?

Three paper bags, Ladies and Gentlemen?

Or maybe some inflatable animals?

Who could possibly resist a sheet of glass on wheels? (I'm sure you can buy these at IKEA)

The most baffling one though - how come they had Jackson Pollock's studio floor on display, but none of his paintings?


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"Positioned to echo the horizontality of the floor". Firstly,

What a crock of shit.
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Two million pounds sterling, in 1974 or thereabouts. That's how much Carl Andre valued the damage caused by Reuben taking one brick out and taking it for a walk. It goes beyond a crock o shite, it's in the realm of Quatari bribery and corruption.
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hahahaha! you beat me to it, that was my favourite!Prufrock wrote: "Positioned to echo the horizontality of the floor". Firstly,. Secondly, as opposed to what? How the feck else do you position a shit load of bricks?
What a crock of shit.
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Leaving aside all the pseudo-intellectual babble, horizontality is a good word.... (though perhaps not in this context).mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:"Horizontality"Bruce Rioja wrote:
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I'm struggling to think of a reason for ever needing to use it Monty? If something's horizontal (or even not), why not just say so?Montreal Wanderer wrote:Leaving aside all the pseudo-intellectual babble, horizontality is a good word.... (though perhaps not in this context).mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:"Horizontality"Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Quite. I'm off to achieve horizontality right now, night all.TANGODANCER wrote:I'm struggling to think of a reason for ever needing to use it Monty? If something's horizontal (or even not), why not just say so?Montreal Wanderer wrote:Leaving aside all the pseudo-intellectual babble, horizontality is a good word.... (though perhaps not in this context).mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:"Horizontality"Bruce Rioja wrote:
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It does sound like the basis of a winning chat up line.TANGODANCER wrote:I'm struggling to think of a reason for ever needing to use it Monty? If something's horizontal (or even not), why not just say so?Montreal Wanderer wrote:Leaving aside all the pseudo-intellectual babble, horizontality is a good word.... (though perhaps not in this context).mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:"Horizontality"Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Well, it means the condition of being horizontal which is not quite the same thing as horizontal. A person can be stupid, but what is the condition of being stupid? Well, stupidity I guess. Although I will allow that horizontality is not in common usage, while stupidity seems quite common.TANGODANCER wrote:I'm struggling to think of a reason for ever needing to use it Monty? If something's horizontal (or even not), why not just say so?Montreal Wanderer wrote:Leaving aside all the pseudo-intellectual babble, horizontality is a good word.... (though perhaps not in this context).mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:"Horizontality"Bruce Rioja wrote:

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One must also consider the state of resultant horizontality post-decking for being a pretentious c*nt.
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I'm determined to get the word 'horizontality' into some sort of business meeting now.
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How about... "You will note that the graphic line within the sustainibilty report shows a determined horizontality that flies in the face of our stated strategic objectives. We need to double our workforce unit output within the relevant parameters associated with positive sustainable objectivity in order to up the verticality."Beefheart wrote:I'm determined to get the word 'horizontality' into some sort of business meeting now.

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Further study of the art work, and its complexity is starting to reveal itself to me.
There are two distinct horizontalities held in tension. The flooral horizontality is disturbed, challenged, perhaps, by the bricks laid in the opposite direction.
In this way the artist has created a directionality that is at odds with horizontality, both contending with and enhancing the complexity of the work. I'm unsure whether this is an ironic comment on either, or both, but I suspect so. In which case the work has subversive comicality directly challenging the seeming brutality of its initial appearance.
There are two distinct horizontalities held in tension. The flooral horizontality is disturbed, challenged, perhaps, by the bricks laid in the opposite direction.
In this way the artist has created a directionality that is at odds with horizontality, both contending with and enhancing the complexity of the work. I'm unsure whether this is an ironic comment on either, or both, but I suspect so. In which case the work has subversive comicality directly challenging the seeming brutality of its initial appearance.
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William the White wrote:Further study of the art work, and its complexity is starting to reveal itself to me.
There are two distinct horizontalities held in tension. The flooral horizontality is disturbed, challenged, perhaps, by the bricks laid in the opposite direction.
In this way the artist has created a directionality that is at odds with horizontality, both contending with and enhancing the complexity of the work. I'm unsure whether this is an ironic comment on either, or both, but I suspect so. In which case the work has subversive comicality directly challenging the seeming brutality of its initial appearance.
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clearly the correct adjective when discussing the hozontality of floors...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:flooral?
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but has so much more to offer than a damp proof course...Bruce Rioja wrote:William the White wrote:Further study of the art work, and its complexity is starting to reveal itself to me.
There are two distinct horizontalities held in tension. The flooral horizontality is disturbed, challenged, perhaps, by the bricks laid in the opposite direction.
In this way the artist has created a directionality that is at odds with horizontality, both contending with and enhancing the complexity of the work. I'm unsure whether this is an ironic comment on either, or both, but I suspect so. In which case the work has subversive comicality directly challenging the seeming brutality of its initial appearance.
It's two course o' bricks.
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Not if your house is damp.William the White wrote:but has so much more to offer than a damp proof course...Bruce Rioja wrote:William the White wrote:Further study of the art work, and its complexity is starting to reveal itself to me.
There are two distinct horizontalities held in tension. The flooral horizontality is disturbed, challenged, perhaps, by the bricks laid in the opposite direction.
In this way the artist has created a directionality that is at odds with horizontality, both contending with and enhancing the complexity of the work. I'm unsure whether this is an ironic comment on either, or both, but I suspect so. In which case the work has subversive comicality directly challenging the seeming brutality of its initial appearance.
It's two course o' bricks.
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