The athletics/running thread

[KeyserSoze]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

[Gary the Enfield]

How old are you?!

Not 47.

But I said over that age! And you aren't under it, are you?!

I might excuse you anyway, you're alright!

I am under it, yes.

Anyway, what's your take on LLS's non-theory? You're a Sports Coach and probably better qualified than most on here to comment.

[Gooner Girl]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

Lots of running? I play left wing.

[KeyserSoze]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

Lots of running? I play left wing.

Indeed! I really did enjoy it but after an hour was more than blowing - the sun didn't help either i played left wing, too, i think by virtue of being left footed more than any giggs-esque ability.

Played on sunday, too. Probs same again next week. fun times. Football!

[Gooner Girl]

Anyway, what's your take on LLS's non-theory? You're a Sports Coach and probably better qualified than most on here to comment.

Other then that he's talking bollocks?!

Sports science/biomechanics made up a fair part of my degree so clearly that was time wasted according to LLS.

I tend to go with Lever Ends view that some people are more prone to injury then others (Theo Walcott...)

Warming up (and a cool down, which most people forget) can help in the prevention (there is plenty of evidence around to suggest it does) so it's important to include both in your training.

Obviously people get injured anyway, but to suggest that happened less in the olden days is ridiculous, it probably happened more but people just stopped running as there wasn't the easy access to physios etc there is today. Exercise was seen very differently, say 100 years ago. Yes, you had your footballers, rugby players and athletes etc but you didn't have the sheer amount of amateur fun runners, club athletes, joggers around as you do these days who are often starting from a poorer level of base fitness. Less people took part in running for fitness and fun as work/labour itself was far more physical then. If you got injured running you couldn't then work so easily. So yes, it may appear more people are injured these days running but that's because far more people do so to start with and we have more easy access to help when injured today which means when Harry gets injured (as he often does ) he doesn't have to give up running totally, he can rest and have treatment and come back in a few weeks.

[Gooner Girl]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

Lots of running? I play left wing.

Indeed! I really did enjoy it but after an hour was more than blowing - the sun didn't help either i played left wing, too, i think by virtue of being left footed more than any giggs-esque ability.

Played on sunday, too. Probs same again next week. fun times. Football!

Also left footed, my right is useless! Not got enough stamina to be fair, but I can beat most players in our league for speed. Need to work on my crossing though, I don't have much power.

Love playing though, so much more fun running around playing football then going for a run!

[Prufrock]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

Just got an email from Matt saying, and I quote*, "Verbal looks very comfortable on the ball".

What the feck happened ?!



*well, he didn't say Verbal.

[KeyserSoze]

Played on the wing on saturday. Usually play centre half.

That was a fun experience.

Just got an email from Matt saying, and I quote*, "Verbal looks very comfortable on the ball".

What the feck happened ?!



*well, he didn't say Verbal.

that must have been the heat doing crazy things to his mind

what's the injury update, btw?

[Prufrock]

Ha that would explain it!

Ive got to have an operation replacing my left leg with that of a greyhound.

Should be all right for a week on Sat. Also, compression bandages are amazing! Makes such a difference. I'm walking with a slight limp, only problem is walking downstairs. I'm basically a cow.

[Gary the Enfield]

Ha that would explain it!

Ive got to have an operation replacing my left leg with that of a greyhound.

Should be all right for a week on Sat. Also, compression bandages are amazing! Makes such a difference. I'm walking with a slight limp, only problem is walking downstairs. I'm basically a cow.

For a little more support whilst running try compression socks.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Anyway, what's your take on LLS's non-theory? You're a Sports Coach and probably better qualified than most on here to comment.

Other then that he's talking bollocks?!

Sports science/biomechanics made up a fair part of my degree so clearly that was time wasted according to LLS.

I tend to go with Lever Ends view that some people are more prone to injury then others (Theo Walcott...)

Warming up (and a cool down, which most people forget) can help in the prevention (there is plenty of evidence around to suggest it does) so it's important to include both in your training.

Obviously people get injured anyway, but to suggest that happened less in the olden days is ridiculous, it probably happened more but people just stopped running as there wasn't the easy access to physios etc there is today. Exercise was seen very differently, say 100 years ago. Yes, you had your footballers, rugby players and athletes etc but you didn't have the sheer amount of amateur fun runners, club athletes, joggers around as you do these days who are often starting from a poorer level of base fitness. Less people took part in running for fitness and fun as work/labour itself was far more physical then. If you got injured running you couldn't then work so easily. So yes, it may appear more people are injured these days running but that's because far more people do so to start with and we have more easy access to help when injured today which means when Harry gets injured (as he often does ) he doesn't have to give up running totally, he can rest and have treatment and come back in a few weeks.

So, you say say I'm talking bollocks and then agree with Lever End's view that more people are prone to injury than others? I don't see Lever End's opinion being a million miles away from what I stated... All I said was, and do try not to get all pissed off, was that most of you seem to get injured a lot - which you do. GtE got all excited and said it was because he put the effort in, and all I'm saying in return is that your sport-science really doesn't seem to help.
And to counter Pru, you 've improved, not because you've "TRAINED" - you've improved because you've run and managed to reach the base level that, as hunting animals, you should have had anyway...

[Gooner Girl]

Anyway, what's your take on LLS's non-theory? You're a Sports Coach and probably better qualified than most on here to comment.

Other then that he's talking bollocks?!

Sports science/biomechanics made up a fair part of my degree so clearly that was time wasted according to LLS.

I tend to go with Lever Ends view that some people are more prone to injury then others (Theo Walcott...)

Warming up (and a cool down, which most people forget) can help in the prevention (there is plenty of evidence around to suggest it does) so it's important to include both in your training.

Obviously people get injured anyway, but to suggest that happened less in the olden days is ridiculous, it probably happened more but people just stopped running as there wasn't the easy access to physios etc there is today. Exercise was seen very differently, say 100 years ago. Yes, you had your footballers, rugby players and athletes etc but you didn't have the sheer amount of amateur fun runners, club athletes, joggers around as you do these days who are often starting from a poorer level of base fitness. Less people took part in running for fitness and fun as work/labour itself was far more physical then. If you got injured running you couldn't then work so easily. So yes, it may appear more people are injured these days running but that's because far more people do so to start with and we have more easy access to help when injured today which means when Harry gets injured (as he often does ) he doesn't have to give up running totally, he can rest and have treatment and come back in a few weeks.

So, you say say I'm talking bollocks and then agree with Lever End's view that more people are prone to injury than others? I don't see Lever End's opinion being a million miles away from what I stated... All I said was, and do try not to get all pissed off, was that most of you seem to get injured a lot - which you do. GtE got all excited and said it was because he put the effort in, and all I'm saying in return is that your sport-science really doesn't seem to help.
And to counter Pru, you 've improved, not because you've "TRAINED" - you've improved because you've run and managed to reach the base level that, as hunting animals, you should have had anyway...

I've never had serious injuries from sport other then shin splints and concussion (when I missed the mat high jumping aged 12 and Fosbury flopped onto concrete ) and whilst I don't train nearly as intensively as Harry and GtE do (and I am a LOT younger then them ) I have been involved in sport for a long time exercising one way or another most weeks without injury.

What exactly do you mean when you say "your 'sports science' doesn't help?" what applied bit of sports science exactly are you talking about? It's a wide topic and not something every runner actually has a clue about. In fact, a lot don't.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm not ignoring you... I'll answer tomorrow as I can't embed and highlight on't phone and I've composed lengthy answers that just disappear into the ether, so tomorrow when on proper computer

[LeverEnd]

I'm not ignoring you... I'll answer tomorrow as I can't embed and highlight on't phone and I've composed lengthy answers that just disappear into the ether, so tomorrow when on proper computer

I was told by an orthopaedic surgeon at 14 that I was skeletally unsuited to running and should find something else to do. I ignored this advice because I loved running and was more talented at it than any other sport. I ignored the feck* and 25 years on am still competing, albeit with various aches and pains. This is because I have been fortunate enough to meet various sports injury specialists who have helped me through. I haven't achieved anything special but was a decent club runner and have had a lot of great experiences. Had I been born 30 years or more earlier I would have had to quit. Sports science kept me going, and I still have athletic goals.

[Gary the Enfield]

I'm not ignoring you... I'll answer tomorrow as I can't embed and highlight on't phone and I've composed lengthy answers that just disappear into the ether, so tomorrow when on proper computer

I was told by an orthopaedic surgeon at 14 that I was skeletally unsuited to running and should find something else to do. I ignored this advice because I loved running and was more talented at it than any other sport. I ignored the feck and 25 years on am still competing, albeit with various aches and pains. This is because I have been fortunate enough to meet various sports injury specialists who have helped me through. I haven't achieved anything special but was a decent club runner and have had a lot of great experiences. Had I been born 30 years or more earlier I would have had to quit. Sports science kept me going, and I still have athletic goals.

I suspect this will not sway our mutual friend. What you've done, you've done in spite of Sports Science, not because of it.

[Gooner Girl]

Debating entering the Triple Jump at the Sussex County Champs. I have done virtually no training recently but could get some in beforehand... I only have 2 years left as a senior woman before I become a vet.

[Gary the Enfield]

Debating entering the Triple Jump at the Sussex County Champs. I have done virtually no training recently but could get some in beforehand... I only have 2 years left as a senior woman before I become a vet.

Congratulations. By the way, is a triple jump for you called a jump by us non-dwarves?

[Gooner Girl]

Debating entering the Triple Jump at the Sussex County Champs. I have done virtually no training recently but could get some in beforehand... I only have 2 years left as a senior woman before I become a vet.

Congratulations. By the way, is a triple jump for you called a jump by us non-dwarves?

Congratulations?! For what?!

And I actually have quite long legs, it's just the rest of my body that is a bit stumpy.

I have won gold and bronze medals in the past at the Sussex champs. No chance of that this year!

[Gary the Enfield]

Debating entering the Triple Jump at the Sussex County Champs. I have done virtually no training recently but could get some in beforehand... I only have 2 years left as a senior woman before I become a vet.

Congratulations. By the way, is a triple jump for you called a jump by us non-dwarves?

Congratulations?! For what?!

And I actually have quite long legs, it's just the rest of my body that is a bit stumpy.

I have won gold and bronze medals in the past at the Sussex champs. No chance of that this year!

On becoming a Vet. Takes years of study what with so many animal physiologies to cope with. Perhaps you can explain to LLS the difference between a greyhound (Canis lupus familiaris) and a human being (Homo Sapiens)

[Gooner Girl]

Debating entering the Triple Jump at the Sussex County Champs. I have done virtually no training recently but could get some in beforehand... I only have 2 years left as a senior woman before I become a vet.

Congratulations. By the way, is a triple jump for you called a jump by us non-dwarves?

Congratulations?! For what?!

And I actually have quite long legs, it's just the rest of my body that is a bit stumpy.

I have won gold and bronze medals in the past at the Sussex champs. No chance of that this year!

On becoming a Vet. Takes years of study what with so many animal physiologies to cope with. Perhaps you can explain to LLS the difference between a greyhound (Canis lupus familiaris) and a human being (Homo Sapiens)

:p masters or whatever you old gimmers call yourself now then!

I could however explain to LLS how to milk a cow or birth a lamb if you think that might help?