By Eck- T' Huddersfield Match Thread

[Enoch]

such sarcasm! One would almost have thought you'd deliberately designed it to be so!

I fear you may have seen something that wasn't there.

My post was simply me posting my thoughts, they weren't intended to be anything else. The last line, in my mind at least, was reference to a small number of posters I fancy would be happy with a poor start next season, if it led to Freedman's sacking. For what it's worth, I don't have you in that camp.

[Hoboh]

whereas you (and thebish) are buoyed by unrealistic faith based philosophies that deliver unachievable optismistic wish fulfillment fantasies on febrile brains?

very sloppy, lazy post...

what the feckity-feck square root of feckness could you possibly even begin to know about what motivates my mood?

Well, you are a pillar of the community and a cornerstone of society.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

plus the weird fact you often quote factual evidence in arguments when your entire ethos, as a Christian, is anti-factual faith based statement.
You asked.

lame, lazy, ignorant, presumptive bollox. you know nothing about my christian "ethos". you know practically nothing at all about what my faith consists of... nothing.

Oh but I do... it consists of faith. By its very nature it's not evidence. Faith promotes 'happiness', otherwise why would faith be proselitized?
Me, on the other hand, am a pessimistic miserable cxnt, I'm sure you recognise the syndrome. The fact you label it lame, lazy and ignorant is, strangely, exactly the attitude I have to the "religious", of whatever faith.
But I fear I've derailed the thread, open it elsewhere if you wish.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

such sarcasm! One would almost have thought you'd deliberately designed it to be so!

I fear you may have seen something that wasn't there.

My post was simply me posting my thoughts, they weren't intended to be anything else. The last line, in my mind at least, was reference to a small number of posters I fancy would be happy with a poor start next season, if it led to Freedman's sacking. For what it's worth, I don't have you in that camp.

Yes that's how I read it, and yes, I had you having me as down in that camp. The fact I'm not (in your mind, in that camp) makes my miserable night finish on a happier ending.

[bwfcdan94]

"And in the red corner"..... . I am confused as to why this argument has risen or what the point in it is, mind you I am often confused.

[thebish]

plus the weird fact you often quote factual evidence in arguments when your entire ethos, as a Christian, is anti-factual faith based statement.
You asked.

lame, lazy, ignorant, presumptive bollox. you know nothing about my christian "ethos". you know practically nothing at all about what my faith consists of... nothing.

Oh but I do... it consists of faith. By its very nature it's not evidence. Faith promotes 'happiness', otherwise why would faith be proselitized?
Me, on the other hand, am a pessimistic miserable cxnt, I'm sure you recognise the syndrome. The fact you label it lame, lazy and ignorant is, strangely, exactly the attitude I have to the "religious", of whatever faith.
But I fear I've derailed the thread, open it elsewhere if you wish.

i don't think you are operating with the same understanding of "faith" as I am - which really underlines the point that you REALLY have no idea at all what my profession of Christianity consists of or means or how it motivates me - none at all you have never even met me and we have not discussed my "faith" and what it means on any kind of serious level. so - you CAN'T and DON'T know the first thing about it.

it's just sloppy, lazy stereotyping - and you are diminished by it.

i am not labelling your pessimism as "lame" - but your lazy, ignorant, presumptive stereotyping - that IS lame.

for my part - I don't really think anyone needs to appeal to any kind of presumed underlying religious faith to explain why a Bolton fan might possibly be happy that Bolton scored a late winner to take three points away from home - especially in a season where wins have been few and far between. For me - that's fairly easy to explain.

[Sponge]

This forum has really become the pits.

[jaffka]

This forum has really become the pits.

why?

[Enoch]

The fact I'm not (in your mind, in that camp) makes my miserable night finish on a happier ending.

Then I bid you good night and sweet dreams.



On a different point, not for the first time it's been suggested I have some 'faith' attached to Freedman, that simply isn't the case. The fact that I choose not to align myself with those that claim to know better than him, doesn't mean one thing nor another.

I like watching football, I'm a fan of the one and only Wanderers. I don't dance in streets, neither do I light bonfires, I just watch the game and enjoy the moment.

At the risk of repeating myself, Freedman has the job, until such time as Eddie tells Phil to feck him off, I accept that. I've little doubt he turns up each day and does what he thinks is best. I have no idea what his employers ask or expect of him. I have no desire to shag him up the arse, nor do I want to eat his babies.

Is Ferguson ready to make a return any time soon?

[Bruce Rioja]

I thought my tele was f*cked last night!

Nice 4-2-2 goal there!

it's the system! IT'S THE SYSTEM!!!!

Wankers ... going round quoting me !!

The TV last night ... on HD & a good telly & all that but the day-glo orange was SOOOOO bright the player outlines were indistinct. That's one amazing colour scheme.

It's cos they only show the football league highlights in standard definition. Had the same issue.

No it wasn't. It's because the pre-match meal was Ready Brek & Tango orange. ITK

[TANGODANCER]

nahh - you've just lapsed into Tango's usual lame strategy - add a lame faith-based word such as "sermon" or "preach" in the absence of anything of substance to say - make it personal - play the person, not the issue - you weren't even responding to what I said, ffs...

How could anything anyone says have any substance in the light of your own magnificence? I wasn't even anywhere near the discussion, yet you couldn't resist having a dig could you? Of course, that isn't personal I suppose?

[Bijou Bob]

Feckin eck, he's only been back two minutes and it's kicking off already!

[jonnycooper]

1-0 away at uddersfield! Good result eh! Deserved or not...

[William the White]

Feckin eck, he's only been back two minutes and it's kicking off already!

Don't spoil it, Bob, it's like old times when thebish and TD get together...

Though i am a bit surprised Spotski refuses to countenance - nay mocks even - a few seconds of unbridled delight, and just a moment of extreme desire to run through the streets naked, when Bolton get an undeserved, deep into injury time winner, away from home, and against a bunch of Yorkies.

My guess is his lottery numbers didn't come up again.

[Il Pirate]

a Bolton fan might possibly be happy



A belief in god I understand. But now you realy are stretching the imagination................

[irie Cee Bee]

We won and I had a great Saturday after that. Wins always make my weekend better. Of course we have some of the usual suspects on here who don't seem very happy with the fact that we won, but I am. Like some of our players, it has taken time for some of us to adopt to where we are. Some clearly still haven't.

I only hope that this summer, we will get in some players who are our own that will help us to compete from the beginning of next season, and not have to totally rely on the loan system to do so.

I see us back in the premiere within 2-3 years if we stay with the plan of investing in young players, sacrificing short term pleasure for long term gain and financial stability.

[LeverEnd]

1-0 away at uddersfield! Good result eh! Deserved or not...

Yes! Just remembered what this thread was for. Cheers.

[Armchair Wanderer]

Is Ferguson ready to make a return any time soon?

I think I read somewhere that he's 72 and is some kind of sports biz professor at one of them fancy ivy league universities in the US of A. His old club is one of my least favourites but you have to respect the man himself. Wasn't he at the oscars too? Far too busy for the Reebok!

[Prufrock]

I guess I'm just lucky.

Living in Kent I don't see us as often as I'd like, but of the six games I've seen to date, this term, I thought we were only bettered in one. Two I'd call as well contested battles, three we were certainly the better side.

Clearly I'm odd, but I seldom come away from any football match thinking one side were battered. I've seen plenty of sides give up possession and never look in danger of losing, I've seen plenty of sides camped outside the opposition's box without looking threatening.. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching us dominate as much as the next guy, I don't expect it every week.

As Bobo observes, 'Next season it all starts over again.' I'm hoping for a fair wind and a competitive season, my ideal conclusion would be a glorious day out at Wembley. What I'm not wishing for is a bad start, the inevitable sacking and the upheaval that would bring. I'd likely settle for a season that sees us in or around the playoff places and the air of optimism it brings.

In some quarters at least!

such sarcasm! One would almost have thought you'd deliberately designed it to be so!
Can you not see that maybe my viewpoint is tainted by secular Dawkinian pessimism, whereas you (and thebish) are buoyed by unrealistic faith based philosophies that deliver unachievable optismistic wish fulfillment fantasies on febrile brains?
You see, I don't take the piss out of your ethos, so why feel the need to needle mine. Just leave me alone to wallow in my dejection, and go about dancing in the feckin streets according to the joy you truly feel without me dragging you down into the abyss reality says we ingabit, please.
Of course next season will deliver a verdict as to whose ethos is more aligned to actuality, but until then I think my pessimism is more attuned to reality than your optimism.

Well, that's a nonsense! The idea that a secular viewpoint necessitates pessimism is bollocks, and the idea that Dawkins' philosophy is pessimistic is also a crock of shite. It's a beautiful world out there, cheer up!

Shatter, shatter the law-tables of the never-joyful!

[boltonboris]

Feckin eck, he's only been back two minutes and it's kicking off already!

Don't spoil it, Bob, it's like old times when thebish and TD get together...

Though i am a bit surprised Spotski refuses to countenance - nay mocks even - a few seconds of unbridled delight, and just a moment of extreme desire to run through the streets naked, when Bolton get an undeserved, deep into injury time winner, away from home, and against a bunch of Yorkies.

My guess is his lottery numbers didn't come up again.

Weird that, I thought he would've known them...