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Re: Freedman out!

Post by jaffka » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:05 pm

thebish wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:Theres a massive ex-pat population in Spain yet we see very few[if any]brits turning out in La-liga......just pointing this out like!!!!
:D when La liga needs fat and wrinkly over-60s then they will be flocking in!
and young piss cans and druggies :wink:

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:19 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Yeah Van Wolfswinkel (any excuse to type that) in particular. I'd be surprised if he spent as much as, say Cardiff did though.

Really odd time tondonit though, unless they're hoping for a quick upturn to get a win on Sat and hope that's enough.
Just read the Norwich official website. They've replaced him with their youth team coach.

Some of the quotes are mind-boggling from the official site:
Neil Adams, 48, steps up from his current role as our Under-18s Coach with a wealth of experience as a player, having won a league title with Everton in 1987 and made 206 appearances in all competitions as a stalwart wide player for Norwich City between 1993 and 1999.
His long experience as a player, coach and as a media analyst for BBC local radio means Neil understands the Club and its fans extremely well and the Club is sure the Canary supporters will unite behind Neil and the team for the crucial games ahead.
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Well I'm glad they got someone well qualified then. I mean I'm sure that when selecting a manager the first thing you look for is someone with experience as a media analyst for local BBC radio stations......
Off topic but what the hell.

This is their new manager on the radio during his "media analyst days".

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Listen all the way through as it is hilarious (mainly because of the caller), but the end especially where he calls the Norwich fan calling in "stupid" - Alan Partridgeesque. Definitely shows he understands the club's fans, that is for sure......

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by jaffka » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:52 pm

Like a Steve Kean appointment.

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Post by Andy Waller » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:05 pm

Or just a "Jimmy Phillips filling in for a bit" appointment?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:15 pm

Andy Waller wrote:Or just a "Jimmy Phillips filling in for a bit" appointment?
To my knowledge they haven't specified any length of time just announced him as the new manager.

But it isn't like they have done this mid season and have some time. The next game is the most important for Norwich's season.

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:56 pm

jaffka wrote:Like a Steve Kean appointment.
Z..
or a Sammy Lee moment.
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Re: Freedman out!

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:13 pm

I stumbled across summat yesterday which pointed out that of all the Premier League clubs to have sacked their manager this season, the only one that's currently in a better position than they were is Palace.
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Re: Freedman out!

Post by Enoch » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:18 pm

I knew we should have replaced Freedman with Pulis!

Didn't I tell you all?!!!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:I stumbled across summat yesterday which pointed out that of all the Premier League clubs to have sacked their manager this season, the only one that's currently in a better position than they were is Palace.
And Palace swapped a total fraud for a real and proven Premiership boss.....

Looking at some of the other changes the mind really does boggle....

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:52 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:I stumbled across summat yesterday which pointed out that of all the Premier League clubs to have sacked their manager this season, the only one that's currently in a better position than they were is Palace.
And Palace swapped a total fraud for a real and proven Premiership boss.....

Looking at some of the other changes the mind really does boggle....
To be honest, I expected Poyet to do better at Sunderland. To not be able to do any better than Di Canio is very poor indeed. Don't know if you saw them last night but Spurs could/should have had a dozen.

Other than for that one and the Clown/Pullis change though, yes, some utterly inexplicable changes.
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Post by jonnycooper » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:56 pm

Pulis took over'a half decent team! Dougie took over mainly a shower of shite'and a pensioner ...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:01 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Bruce Rioja wrote:I stumbled across summat yesterday which pointed out that of all the Premier League clubs to have sacked their manager this season, the only one that's currently in a better position than they were is Palace.
And Palace swapped a total fraud for a real and proven Premiership boss.....

Looking at some of the other changes the mind really does boggle....
To be honest, I expected Poyet to do better at Sunderland. To not be able to do any better than Di Canio is very poor indeed. Don't know if you saw them last night but Spurs could/should have had a dozen.

Other than for that one and the Clown/Pullis change though, yes, some utterly inexplicable changes.
To be fair to Poyet he has done better, just not "better enough" so far....

Sunderland sacked Bruce as they were close to the relegation zone, brought in O'Neill who kept them up, then when he looked like taking them down sacked him and appointed Di Canio who kept them up. They they then sacked Di Canio for Poyet to try and stay up, they've been bumbling around the bottom for a while and I guess changing managers is a band-aid over a bigger problem that eventually bleeds over the latest band-aid....

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:02 pm

jonnycooper wrote:Pulis took over'a half decent team! Dougie took over mainly a shower of shite'and a pensioner ...
The job Pulis has done is IMO remarkable at Palace. They were so far short of being a premiership side it is unreal. They'd lost their main talent and Holloway had bought his usual collection of misfits.

Pulis has worked wonders there. Manager of the season for me (assuming they finish the job off and stay up).

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:15 pm

Agree with both those ^.

Poyet done OK when what they needed was a miracle. Palace needed a miracle and got one!
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Post by jonnycooper » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:23 pm

Palace are probably safe now' can't see any of the bottom 3 reaching 34points.Holloway has proved he is a charlatan time after time.But we wouldn't pay the reported 2.5mill a year that Pulis was reported to have wanted when he took over at Palace.He also took over a team that was pretty much assembled by Dougie and was heading for auto promotion to the PL until Hollowhead nearly derailed it.

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Post by Athers » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:29 am

-------- This is not a post saying I told you so --------

I remember the Dougie Out mania was at a height after the Millwall draw on 15-Feb. Is it agreed that we've had one disappointing game since then - Brighton at home. Maybe Yeovil?? I would say any new boss or Jimmy Phillips wouldn't have done better.

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by boltonboris » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:19 am

He's probably done enough to warrant keeping hold off to see if we can start next season where we seem to be leaving off this..

But 8 games for me. If we're bottom 6/8, he can get to feck (again).
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:25 am

boltonboris wrote:He's probably done enough to warrant keeping hold off to see if we can start next season where we seem to be leaving off this..

But 8 games for me. If we're bottom 6/8, he can get to feck (again).
Again the question comes down to, he's shown that he knows the sorts of players we need.

Danns, Jutkiewicz, Mason and to a lesser degree Hutton have all made very decent impacts.

If he's allowed and/or able to sign those players or equivalents I'd be pretty confident for next season.

But if not then I'd be worried whoever was in charge. We don't have money to splash I get that, but the loanees have shown us the sort of characters required, and bringing some of those (ideally all) in next season is essential.

Equally if he goes off and signs more with the Beckford character then he can get lost, because that was a mistake with our squad and one that shouldn't be repeated.

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Re: Freedman out!

Post by boltonboris » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:35 am

Well as you say, I hope he starts next season with the outlook he's finished this season with.

Because if he doesn't learn from the mistakes he's made the previous season, he'll never be a manager
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Re: Freedman out!

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:41 am

BWFC_Insane wrote: Again the question comes down to, he's shown that he knows the sorts of players we need.

Danns, Jutkiewicz, Mason and to a lesser degree Hutton have all made very decent impacts.
If you throw enough shit at a wall then eventually some will stick. If he knows the sort of players that we need then why've we seen so much dross?
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