Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

[bobo the clown]

£1.5m though? Get to fvckin fvck you fvckin fvckers

+1. Sh'ite

Hasn't he got 2, if not 3, years contract left ? In which case feck off.

It's about time we got proper coin for someone.

I'd rather he stayed, but if he has to be let go then we should got 4 or 5 times tat at today's prices.

Imagine the quality of bench Dougie could have then !!

[TKIZ!]

£1.5m though? Get to fvckin fvck you fvckin fvckers

+1. Sh'ite

Hasn't he got 2, if not 3, years contract left ? In which case feck off.

It's about time we got proper coin for someone.

I'd rather he stayed, but if he has to be let go then we should got 4 or 5 times tat at today's prices.

Imagine the quality of bench Dougie could have then !!

I'd much rather he stayed but if they offered say £5/6m then I'd take that

[TANGODANCER]

Somehow, I just don't have good vibes about next season despite being Mr optimist. What/who will we have as foundations to build our brave new world on? Dougie's refusal to consider players like Chris Eagles for selection and his vague hints at plans that seem as permanent as daffodils is really looking worrying and his "borrow a cup of sugar off the neighbours" methods of squad building and his "present to the fans" (did he really say that about Moritz?) added to talk/gossip of losing what few decent players we have is causing indigestion in the inner regions. We have kids and under twenty ones' who are beating everybody, but will they ever get a chance to shine in the first XI, and when? The Cloughs and Youngs etc. Why haven't we given Tom Eaves a decent chance as striker with some decent players around him? Why can't Craig Davies fill the Mason role alongside Juke or Eaves? What exactly did he do wrong when picked?Where's Odelusi disappeared to? Sordell???

All questions I can't answer, but questions all the same.

[BWFC_Insane]

Somehow, I just don't have good vibes about next season despite being Mr optimist. What/who will we have as foundations to build our brave new world on? Dougie's refusal to consider players like Chris Eagles for selection and his vague hints at plans that seem as permanent as daffodils is really looking worrying and his "borrow a cup of sugar off the neighbours" methods of squad building and his "present to the fans" (did he really say that about Moritz?) added to talk/gossip of losing what few decent players we have is causing indigestion in the inner regions. We have kids and under twenty ones' who are beating everybody, but will they ever get a chance to shine in the first XI, and when? The Cloughs and Youngs etc. Why haven't we given Tom Eaves a decent chance as striker with some decent players around him? Why can't Craig Davies fill the Mason role alongside Juke or Eaves? What exactly did he do wrong when picked?Where's Odelusi disappeared to? Sordell???

All questions I can't answer, but questions all the same.

We can't afford Chris Eagles, irrespective of if our manager would like to keep him or not.

Our manager has said he'd rather not loan players, but we don't have the money to sign all the ones we need in the summer.

Craig Davies is nowhere near the level of Mason. It's why he's a league one player and signed for us on league one wages.

I share your worry about next season, but it is the horrible reality that is sinking in that we've run well above our means for nigh on a decade now. And for a variety of reasons the club has apparently decided that has to stop.

[Bruce Rioja]

We can't afford Chris Eagles.

Really? How much has he asked for then, being as you're so certain?

[jaffka]

Somehow, I just don't have good vibes about next season despite being Mr optimist. What/who will we have as foundations to build our brave new world on? Dougie's refusal to consider players like Chris Eagles for selection and his vague hints at plans that seem as permanent as daffodils is really looking worrying and his "borrow a cup of sugar off the neighbours" methods of squad building and his "present to the fans" (did he really say that about Moritz?) added to talk/gossip of losing what few decent players we have is causing indigestion in the inner regions. We have kids and under twenty ones' who are beating everybody, but will they ever get a chance to shine in the first XI, and when? The Cloughs and Youngs etc. Why haven't we given Tom Eaves a decent chance as striker with some decent players around him? Why can't Craig Davies fill the Mason role alongside Juke or Eaves? What exactly did he do wrong when picked?Where's Odelusi disappeared to? Sordell???

All questions I can't answer, but questions all the same.

We can't afford Chris Eagles, irrespective of if our manager would like to keep him or not.

Our manager has said he'd rather not loan players, but we don't have the money to sign all the ones we need in the summer.

Craig Davies is nowhere near the level of Mason. It's why he's a league one player and signed for us on league one wages.

I share your worry about next season, but it is the horrible reality that is sinking in that we've run well above our means for nigh on a decade now. And for a variety of reasons the club has apparently decided that has to stop.

So you are saying we wasted money on cravies, when apparently as you are saying we are on our arses and every penny counts.

[bobo the clown]

We can't afford Chris Eagles.

Really? How much has he asked for then, being as you're so certain?

I get the impression that a few "fringe Premiership" players are having to modify their expectations for their next contracts.

I have no idea if Eagles will do though the fact that the likes of Charlton were sniffing around (albeit he declined them) suggest he may. He's effectively lost a whole season of his career this tine, with injury, form and selection issues. He's not going to get offered another £20,000 - 25,000 pw one by any club. (That figure being plucked from the air but following the Gavin McCann revelations last week).

I don't see him staying .... nor DF even offering him a new contract ... but it's not simply an income thing.

[LeverEnd]

To be not even getting on the bench suggests there is more to it than just other players being in form. Once you're excluded from the Dougie selection lottery that's it I think. Dougie's quotes sound similar to what he said about SKD last season, i.e. politely binning him.
I'd hang on to him if he wants to stay and will accept a realistic contract, but it seems unlikely.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

[boltonboris]

I absolutely agree AT. Yet more cuntishness from our management.

[LeverEnd]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

That's hindsight though. He finished last season as one of our best performers though, Dougie would have been slated for getting rid.
I'd try to get something for CYL this summer though so the situation isn't repeated.

[bobo the clown]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

At the risk of being accused of quotung Freedman without actual quotes attached he said last summer that Eagles was to be pivotal in the coming year and he was to be his striker/link-up man. He was injured in the first match and took ages to get fit again and simply never regained any role.

He's clearly totally out of DF's plans despite his pivotal season. I'd not be surprised if he's not even expected to turn up at Euxton any more.

[Hoboh]

I would like next season for us not to use the loan market to get results. I would like to make sure we get players in at the beginning of the season and we recruit the right types and if we are going to do an Alan Hutton, it will be for the whole season so we will get a settled team.

Might as well bookmark this for the inevitable subsequent squabbles.

"He said he DEFINITELY wasn't loaning any players, the knobhead"

What he would like to do and what he actually can do are different. Last summer he wanted and expected to sign more players than he actually did.

I think he knows this summer will be the same. He won't be able to sign who he wants and needs to one extent or another and will have to hope that during the season the right players come up on loan.

When you look at what we actually have on the books confirmed for next season it is worrying in some regards.

He's a prick by his own admission, you and only you fail to see this!
If I'm here, this time next year, I will bring this to your attention!

[Hoboh]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

That's hindsight though. He finished last season as one of our best performers though, Dougie would have been slated for getting rid.
I'd try to get something for CYL this summer though so the situation isn't repeated.

Agreed, less wages and a little bit of cash back.

[boltonboris]

There was a transfer window in the winter too...

[bobo the clown]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

That's hindsight though. He finished last season as one of our best performers though, Dougie would have been slated for getting rid.
I'd try to get something for CYL this summer though so the situation isn't repeated.

Agreed, less wages and a little bit of cash back.

As much for CYL's good as ours. He's a lost soul (resisting the pun) out there these days and pitiful to watch.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

That's hindsight though. He finished last season as one of our best performers though, Dougie would have been slated for getting rid.
I'd try to get something for CYL this summer though so the situation isn't repeated.

I don't think Dougie is too concerned with being slated to be fair. I'm also not sure it is hindsight. He seems to shut players out, which as manager he has the right to do, whether we agree or not. But as a club, we seem to just let these players rot in Coventry. I accept there may not be a queue for all of them, but some of them we should be able to get nominal fees for at least. Take Sordell. He'll have a year left in the summer? Is Dougie going to use him next season? I doubt it. He clearly didn't want to use him this season, so why not sell him last summer, even for a few hundred k? His value is even lower after what looks like another shite season. Chances are, his contract will wind down, like every player seems to now and a large investment will be completely wasted. A few hundred k might not be a great return, but it is better than nowt in these straightened times.

[BWFC_Insane]

We can't afford Chris Eagles.

Really? How much has he asked for then, being as you're so certain?

I get the impression that a few "fringe Premiership" players are having to modify their expectations for their next contracts.

I have no idea if Eagles will do though the fact that the likes of Charlton were sniffing around (albeit he declined them) suggest he may. He's effectively lost a whole season of his career this tine, with injury, form and selection issues. He's not going to get offered another £20,000 - 25,000 pw one by any club. (That figure being plucked from the air but following the Gavin McCann revelations last week).

I don't see him staying .... nor DF even offering him a new contract ... but it's not simply an income thing.

Well quite simply, we are having to avoid losing more than £8M this year, after losing considerably more than that next year.

From all I've read and heard reducing the loss to something that fits FFP is predicated on the releasing of those players out of contract. As that is likely the only significant savings possible.

Now what that leaves to replace them is somewhat frightening. But IF the club truly does want to comply with FFP (and we have to assume they do) then unless the likes of Eagles will accept a massive reduction in wages, then I don't think it is unfair to say we can't afford them.

[Worthy4England]

I just wish we'd try and sell the likes of Eagles if we aren't going to use them to any great extent. Eagles in the summer would have gotten us 500k to a million I would have thought.

That's hindsight though. He finished last season as one of our best performers though, Dougie would have been slated for getting rid.
I'd try to get something for CYL this summer though so the situation isn't repeated.

I don't think Dougie is too concerned with being slated to be fair. I'm also not sure it is hindsight. He seems to shut players out, which as manager he has the right to do, whether we agree or not. But as a club, we seem to just let these players rot in Coventry. I accept there may not be a queue for all of them, but some of them we should be able to get nominal fees for at least. Take Sordell. He'll have a year left in the summer? Is Dougie going to use him next season? I doubt it. He clearly didn't want to use him this season, so why not sell him last summer, even for a few hundred k? His value is even lower after what looks like another shite season. Chances are, his contract will wind down, like every player seems to now and a large investment will be completely wasted. A few hundred k might not be a great return, but it is better than nowt in these straightened times.

I'm fairly sure I read a quote, that no one had so much as enquired about a single one of our players in January (including the ones we had in the shop window) on a permanent basis.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Fair enough Worthy. I do find it strange, despite the obvious all our players are shit, that we're unable to sell players (last few seasons). My memory is probably failing me, but who have we actually sold in the last 2-3 years?