Today I'm happy about......

[bobo the clown]

It picks up support because it's driven by and commented upon by the media whose interests it is in to push. They are also the people who tell us there's a public clamour for u necessarywho tests that ckaim, even if it was relevant ?

We alreadt have a political system where you'll get nowhere unless you are "camera friendly" I don't see thar making the Courts this way too helps at all. It akso adds furher unecessary pressure onto witnesses and juries.

I already loathe that the Commons Public Accounts committees have become the "how narrow minded and vicious can Margaret Hodge be ?" entertainment shows.

It's a dreadful idea. Sort of Jeremy Kyle with a wig.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No. It turns serious stuff into reality TV. All of the arguments for it are nonsense, and yet it seems to be picking up more and more support over here, presumably from 'right-on' types who want to seem down with the kids. There's an idea that law is too musty and 'uncool' and so it needs to 'connect' with people. There may be a good point buried in there somewhere, but these people think the way to do it is to embrace any passing technology or gimmick, like a shit ad agency.

Whoooooa!
It turns reality TV into proper real actual reality tv... rather than the insipid fly-on-the-wall shaky camera crap we've been spoon-fed, and it utterly pisses on the idea that Big Brother or Survivor had anything at all to say.
This is reality tv as it should be... real, unfolding unscripted before one's very eyes without any false idea of entertainment value attached to it at all. The fact it has (in my opinion) more entertainment value than anything currently on TV is down to the fact it is fascinating and pure, it is riveting because it is not meant to be entertainment and yet is more gripping than stuff which is designed to capture my attention.
Some people I've discussed this with think it is morbid and voyeuristic: I can see their argument, but the revelation it has given me as to the workings in a murder case far outweigh the negative aspects. It's not like Reeva Steinkamp was shot and killed just so I can watch a murder trial - that event happened, this case proceeded, and the fact it is 'serious' cannot be a reason not to televise it. (I can think of reasons not to, but it being 'serious real life stuff' is not one of them).

[Prufrock]

My point has nothing to do with its entertainment value. I actually think televised trials are spectacularly dull in the most part, but certain cases like this one are certainly 'fascinating'. My point is that the justice system isn't there to provide entertainment!

[Prufrock]

It picks up support because it's driven by and commented upon by the media whose interests it is in to push. They are also the people who tell us there's a public clamour for u necessarywho tests that ckaim, even if it was relevant ?

We alreadt have a political system where you'll get nowhere unless you are "camera friendly" I don't see thar making the Courts this way too helps at all. It akso adds furher unecessary pressure onto witnesses and juries.

I already loathe that the Commons Public Accounts committees have become the "how narrow minded and vicious can Margaret Hodge be ?" entertainment shows.

It's a dreadful idea. Sort of Jeremy Kyle with a wig.

I think I agree 100% with this. I'm not totally sure what all of it means, but I think I agree !

[Lost Leopard Spot]

My point has nothing to do with its entertainment value. I actually think televised trials are spectacularly dull in the most part, but certain cases like this one are certainly 'fascinating'. My point is that the justice system isn't there to provide entertainment!

Precisely. It's not. And when, or if, it becomes so then at that point I'll agree with you (and Bobo possibly). But till then I'm like a rabbit in headlights...

(By the way, when did Bobo turn foreign? has the Welshness struck? or has he got a new North Korean phone? I'm having to put his posts through googletranslate and its not very good with Mordorish.)

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

We alreadt have a political system where you'll get nowhere unless you are "camera friendly"

How does that explain Ed Milliband?

[thebish]

No. It turns serious stuff into reality TV. All of the arguments for it are nonsense, and yet it seems to be picking up more and more support over here, presumably from 'right-on' types who want to seem down with the kids. There's an idea that law is too musty and 'uncool' and so it needs to 'connect' with people. There may be a good point buried in there somewhere, but these people think the way to do it is to embrace any passing technology or gimmick, like a shit ad agency.

Whoooooa!
It turns reality TV into proper real actual reality tv... rather than the insipid fly-on-the-wall shaky camera crap we've been spoon-fed, and it utterly pisses on the idea that Big Brother or Survivor had anything at all to say.
This is reality tv as it should be... real, unfolding unscripted before one's very eyes without any false idea of entertainment value attached to it at all.

unscripted?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No. It turns serious stuff into reality TV. All of the arguments for it are nonsense, and yet it seems to be picking up more and more support over here, presumably from 'right-on' types who want to seem down with the kids. There's an idea that law is too musty and 'uncool' and so it needs to 'connect' with people. There may be a good point buried in there somewhere, but these people think the way to do it is to embrace any passing technology or gimmick, like a shit ad agency.

Whoooooa!
It turns reality TV into proper real actual reality tv... rather than the insipid fly-on-the-wall shaky camera crap we've been spoon-fed, and it utterly pisses on the idea that Big Brother or Survivor had anything at all to say.
This is reality tv as it should be... real, unfolding unscripted before one's very eyes without any false idea of entertainment value attached to it at all.

unscripted?

errr, ok I concede the scripted. I meant unscripted as in unscripted drama, rather than professionally unprepared on the part of yon barristers - although frankly, one of them has run rings around the other in terms of preparedness.

[bobo the clown]

We alreadt have a political system where you'll get nowhere unless you are "camera friendly"

How does that explain Ed Milliband?

Ha. A prime example of the genre .... negative side.

Whatever he says, & in my view it's normally bollox, he looks a tit saying it. He'd look wooden in a forest.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

We alreadt have a political system where you'll get nowhere unless you are "camera friendly"

How does that explain Ed Milliband?

Ha. A prime example of the genre .... negative side.

Whatever he says, & in my view it's normally bollox, he looks a tit saying it. He'd look wooden in a forest.

I feel a serious need to punch the telly every time he's on. The fact Mrs AT would punch me for wrecking the new telly is the only thing saving him! The fact it's either him or Cameron next for PM tells a sorry story of how far things are falling in the UK...

[TANGODANCER]

Seeing a speckled thrush flitting around the garden. Haven't seen one for ages. Called the wife to authenticate it or she'd have said I'd seen a large sparrow or a small female blackbird. She gave it a surprised thumbs up.

[thebish]

Seeing a speckled thrush flitting around the garden. Haven't seen one for ages. Called the wife to authenticate it or she'd have said I'd seen a large sparrow or a small female blackbird. She gave it a surprised thumbs up.

aye - they seem to have become quite rare whilst there used to be tons of them (as i remember it anyway)

quite tricky to tell the song thrush and the mistle thrush apart - so not a bad idea to hedge your bets and call it "speckled"!

the song thrush's speckles are more like arrow heads - the mistle thrush's speckles are splodgier..

this is a pic of a song thrush I took whilst walking the dog - they are now classified as red-list (in rarity)

[TANGODANCER]

Speckles were definitely much paler than your pic, bish. I caught a quick look, then another and dashed for the binoculars. It was only there for a couple of minutes but we both saw it quite clearly. Don't know if it'll come back. I hope so....

[Hoboh]

Seeing a speckled thrush flitting around the garden. Haven't seen one for ages. Called the wife to authenticate it or she'd have said I'd seen a large sparrow or a small female blackbird. She gave it a surprised thumbs up.

aye - they seem to have become quite rare whilst there used to be tons of them (as i remember it anyway)

quite tricky to tell the song thrush and the mistle thrush apart - so not a bad idea to hedge your bets and call it "speckled"!

the song thrush's speckles are more like arrow heads - the mistle thrush's speckles are splodgier..

this is a pic of a song thrush I took whilst walking the dog - they are now classified as red-list (in rarity)

Cat had one of those last week

[bobo the clown]

↑↑↑ Cats are bastards.

[Dujon]

You're probably right, bobo. I haven't as yet met a married couple.

[bobo the clown]

Yesterday I was an extra in the filming of some scenes in a sort of true story TV film starring Toby Jones as a long serving kit-man for Stoke City. He's got a Walter Mitty side to him and these scenes involved him actually coming on as a substitute. Who can't empathise with that ?

Filed at Wrexham's ground I was one of about 300. I was curioys to see how these tgungs were done. It was interesting as an experience, though of course lors of dull periods and sitting about. Plys got £150 !!

I declined the opportunity to wear .... touch even ....a red and white scarf.

All other queries through my agent please.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Bobo's turned into a scouser

[bobo the clown]

Bobo's turned into a scouser

... Stokie !!

For money.

I wouldn't have done it if it was a Scouser. Really, I wouldn't.

[thebish]

^ fan for sale!