Freedman out!

[thebish]

I guess the bit I'm missing here, is that to me, that's just "management".

Generally when a new manager comes in, in any line of business, they start from not knowing any fcuker, so they see how it goes for a bit.

They generally then set out their plan.

Some folks don't like it. They get shifted, especially if they're overtly or covertly try to derail the plan.

I don't think that's NLP, I think that's gone on since before NLP became a pseudo "science".

Hardly sinister.

indeed. NLP? my arse!

[Puskas]

I'd add Scholes to a list of players who were everywhere but never looked rushed and in his case hardly noticed!
Not quite the middle two's league but as good as the other two any day, infact I'd take him over the other two!

DMB

[Lord Kangana]

We were shit at the start of the season. This was clearly all the players fault. Unlike the end of last season, when we were great, and that was clearly all down to the manager.

That's what he said. No pseudo science.

I've worked for people like that too.

[SmokinFrazier]

It's alright, Freedman just needs a pre-season. Maybe this time he'll be able to figure out how to create an attacking unit or ensure we can do the absolute basics defensively? How benevolent of the club to appoint a manager well out of his depth but let him try to improve at our expense.

[thebish]

ok - understood.

now - how about going out and cracking a smile - have a wank - watch some cricket - sit in the sun - go on holiday - take a properly designed sea-kayak far out to sea - relax - do summat you enjoy for the summer - the doom and gloom will still be here come August...

[Il Pirate]

Neuro Linguistic Programming ... I ask you !! That was the foundation of Allardyce's system and, for a comparison, the whole New Labour concept.


And the foundation of training in the Legion D'Etrangere...........

[TKIZ!]

It's alright, Freedman just needs a pre-season. Maybe this time he'll be able to figure out how to create an attacking unit or ensure we can do the absolute basics defensively? How benevolent of the club to appoint a manager well out of his depth but let him try to improve at our expense.

Like Little Sammy Lee or one Mr. Owen Coyle?

[Harry Genshaw]

ok - understood.

now - how about going out and cracking a smile - have a wank - watch some cricket - sit in the sun - go on holiday - take a properly designed sea-kayak far out to sea - relax - do summat you enjoy for the summer - the doom and gloom will still be here come August...

I expected better from a man of the cloth.

Cricket indeed

[CAPSLOCK]

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.

What an absolute fcuking cock

[thebish]

ahh - welcome back CAPS!

[Worthy4England]

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.

What an absolute fcuking cock

[ChrisC]

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.

What an absolute fcuking cock

He shoots... He scoresssss!!!!

[SmokinFrazier]

Coyle deserves times to build a decent team. We've had a lot of bad luck, some horrific injuries and we've not spent enough money to rebuild. We're seeing the consequences of those things. Does it mean Coyle's a bad manager? Of course not.

Frankly, the players have looked abysmal. I don't fault Coyle for that. When you have a team of players who look petrified to be on the ball, there are issues but it's not to do with the manager. Our team aren't good enough and to make the situation worse, they are lacking confidence.

What an absolute fcuking cock

The only thing I'd take back is my opinion that Coyle isn't a bad manager but whilst I don't rate him, I don't have the anger that many people on here do and I'd still defend him against a lot of the excessive criticism. He was a much better manager for us than Freedman has been who, bizarrely, some people haven't completely seen through. But my comments on the team were right. We did lack quality in the season we went down and we should have signed more played to cover the injury crisis we had. Had we brought in a replacement for Chungy or Holden, I don't think we'd have gone down which puts into perspective the job Coyle did. The players who replaced them weren't good enough and they undoubtedly did lack confidence, so I wasn't wrong.

You can throw around insults if you want but you probably know I'm right. It's a recurring theme on here that I'll voice an opinion, get slagged off for it and then eventually, be proven right. People like you said I didn't have a clue about tactics when I argued for 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1, yet which has been proven to be more effective? Certain posters argued I didn't know how to judge a player when I was the only one who kept faith in Ream whilst there were numerous serious comments saying we should give him away. When I started calling for Freedman to be sacked, how many people said that I didn't have a clue about football and my knowledge only came from playing games?

So yeah, it doesn't bother me what you think because I know a lot more about football than you do and as long as I bother to post on here, I'll continue to prove that. If you think I'm wrong, good, it just reaffirms my opinion that I'm right.

[Prufrock]

Haha!

TAKE THAT CAPS.

[Worthy4England]

I think Mr SF, you should offer to rewrite US history. It would end up looking even better. They'd probably end up winning WWII and liberating Blighty in 1940.

When you were battering on about 442, we didn't possess two forwards that could work together. The fact that some months later we got a target man and linked him up with a second loanee, doesn't make you right at the point in time you started mentioning it.

Ream is bang average. Did he improve yes - it would have been difficult to get any worse. I'm not convinced he was our best defender let alone player of the season.

As for the backtracking on how poor the team was that Coyle assembled then pointing out that a replacement for Holden or Chungy might have helped when we spunked our cash on Sordell. Beggars belief.

[SmokinFrazier]

When you were battering on about 442, we didn't possess two forwards that could work together. The fact that some months later we got a target man and linked him up with a second loanee, doesn't make you right at the point in time you started mentioning it.

I first started mentioning it last season, not this one, and it's got nothing to do with the strikers we have either. They could be two lazy poachers or two workhorse target men, it doesn't change the fact that two strikers suits us more. I was right with that yet my comments were met with constant derisory comments about me playing too much Football Manager I'm right about the other things I've got into in the past too.

Seeing as he chirped in this thread, as he always does when I post, I remember Prufock taking issue with me slagging Knight off for his awful defending against Forest earlier this year. BWFI agreed with him, as did someone else who I can't remember. When people take that sort of stance, it tells me that they know nothing about football and/or they're picking an argument because they don't like me. Their understanding of football is so far off point, it's almost childlike, yet they constantly pick up on my points. It's oddly masochistic of them.

As for the backtracking on how poor the team was that Coyle assembled then pointing out that a replacement for Holden or Chungy might have helped when we spunked our cash on Sordell. Beggars belief.

I've not backtracked on anything and I agree that the money that went on Sordell was too much and proved to be a poor deal. It was a gamble and some pay off, some don't, but we should have gone with a safe bet and signed someone with a proven record.

[Lord Kangana]

Haha!

TAKE THAT CAPS.

You sound like one of those bullied kids who'd like it to be somebody else's turn.

[KeyserSoze]

Football season's finished guys, btw.

I believe it's sunny out, too.

[thebish]

But my comments on the team were right.

...so I wasn't wrong.

You can throw around insults if you want but you probably know I'm right.

It's a recurring theme on here that I'll voice an opinion, get slagged off for it and then eventually, be proven right.

I know a lot more about football than you do

If you think I'm wrong it just reaffirms my opinion that I'm right.

FACT

[CAPSLOCK]

it tells me that they know nothing about football and/or they're picking an argument because they don't like me. Their understanding of football is so far off point, it's almost childlike

And there we have it

I'm just a fan while you set yourselves up as some tactical genius

You probably are but you don't half do a cracking job of proving you're not wired up reet

Anyway, don't worry about me, you just carry on, its entertaining if nowt else*


* in a nutter watching kind of way