The Politics Thread

[Bruce Rioja]

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2014/05/18/nig ... -his-head/

And did you see this? A tree that looks like Nigel Farridge?

[Prufrock]

[a1]

how long will it be before abu h. gets his 'good' eye flicked out with a screwdriver by the "aryans" ?

[Hoboh]

indeed... and i suspect that what the tory/lab/lib media machine pumps out against UKIP will have the opposite effect - because (not surprisingly) UKIP supporters are swivel-eyed loons - and what the tory/lib/lab media machine THINKS is a devastating attack on UKIP actually seems quite attractive to UKIP supporters!

media machine: "UKIP candidate thinks women are sluts who should stay at home and cook dinner and do as they are told!"

tory/lib/lab supporters: "Oooh goodie - what a devastating blow - this will end UKIP support"

UKIP voter: "fab!! where do i sign?"

Equally Farage treads the line of acceptability deliberately fine.

He does it for the very reason that it provokes the sort of response he gets.

At which point he can do his whole "I'm not racist, I'm just protecting our country blah blah" speech and the swivel eyed loons think "what a nice man".

It is a clever tactic.

The worrying thing is so few have exposed his intelorance, racism and double standards as well as that interview Bruce linked. If a few more did then UKIP would sink without a trace.

If a few of the swivel-eyed loons who think the UK is still full of dark satanic mills and vote for the socialists 'just because my dad did and his dad' used the few grey cells they had then Labour would sink without trace!
Mind you a vote for socialists these days is for all the down and outs, single teen mothers, dole bashing, benefit cheating, throw bricks at anyone defying the party line and paid for by the union bullies! Oh so thats ok then.
A party with magnificent members like Cliff feckin' big pocket Morris as members, ever been to a union meet or labour party meeting? you'd get more democracy in the Kremlin!

Sad when a seemed clever bloke can just resort to purile fun when he sees his version of socialist utophia under threat (I'm looking at you Pru) shame I won't be around when he wakes up later in life to reality.

[Hoboh]

Cooper, the shadow home secretary, told ITV News "It's not racist to be worried about immigration or to want stronger controls, but it is racist to somehow stir up fears about Romanians living next door

And I wouldn't want a bitch like this living next door either!



I would be in fear.

[thebish]

And I wouldn't want a bitch like this living next door either!

nice....

[Bijou Bob]

Better her than Harriet.....................on balance...........

[Prufrock]

indeed... and i suspect that what the tory/lab/lib media machine pumps out against UKIP will have the opposite effect - because (not surprisingly) UKIP supporters are swivel-eyed loons - and what the tory/lib/lab media machine THINKS is a devastating attack on UKIP actually seems quite attractive to UKIP supporters!

media machine: "UKIP candidate thinks women are sluts who should stay at home and cook dinner and do as they are told!"

tory/lib/lab supporters: "Oooh goodie - what a devastating blow - this will end UKIP support"

UKIP voter: "fab!! where do i sign?"

Equally Farage treads the line of acceptability deliberately fine.

He does it for the very reason that it provokes the sort of response he gets.

At which point he can do his whole "I'm not racist, I'm just protecting our country blah blah" speech and the swivel eyed loons think "what a nice man".

It is a clever tactic.

The worrying thing is so few have exposed his intelorance, racism and double standards as well as that interview Bruce linked. If a few more did then UKIP would sink without a trace.

If a few of the swivel-eyed loons who think the UK is still full of dark satanic mills and vote for the socialists 'just because my dad did and his dad' used the few grey cells they had then Labour would sink without trace!
Mind you a vote for socialists these days is for all the down and outs, single teen mothers, dole bashing, benefit cheating, throw bricks at anyone defying the party line and paid for by the union bullies! Oh so thats ok then.
A party with magnificent members like Cliff feckin' big pocket Morris as members, ever been to a union meet or labour party meeting? you'd get more democracy in the Kremlin!

Sad when a seemed clever bloke can just resort to purile fun when he sees his version of socialist utophia under threat (I'm looking at you Pru) shame I won't be around when he wakes up later in life to reality.

Firstly, back-handed or not, here at Pru Towers we receive all compliments graciously, so ta.

Secondly, the puerile bit might carry a bit more force were it not for your very next post right below!

Thirdly, I don't have a vision of a socialist utopia. I did the whole 15 year old commie thing, late to the scene, in my late teens early twenties. My views have changed a lot since then, and I have no idea of a utopia, mainly because I try to reject ideology now where I can.

Fourthly, regardless, I don't feel under threat from Nigel Farrage. He is the leader of a one issue party which has a minority support on that issue; a minority support which is sizeable, but also a long, long way from way from being a majority. Not only that, but the vast majority of those who do support him on that issue, don't think the issue itself is important enough that they'd vote for his party in elections which concern other things. I have no concern that UKIP will ever get more than a couple of MPs, if that, or that their support will reach a level where Britain will end up pulling out of the EU. History may prove me wrong, but I'm genuinely not worried by Farrage!

The leaders of the other parties are worred by Farrage, but not because they're scared of losing to him, but because they're scared he'll make them lose to the others.

[Beefheart]

The biggest problem with UKIP is that their popularity just makes the Tories even worse than usual as they clamour to win back the small minded middle englanders who've defected with a bunch of stupid policies.

[Hoboh]

indeed... and i suspect that what the tory/lab/lib media machine pumps out against UKIP will have the opposite effect - because (not surprisingly) UKIP supporters are swivel-eyed loons - and what the tory/lib/lab media machine THINKS is a devastating attack on UKIP actually seems quite attractive to UKIP supporters!

media machine: "UKIP candidate thinks women are sluts who should stay at home and cook dinner and do as they are told!"

tory/lib/lab supporters: "Oooh goodie - what a devastating blow - this will end UKIP support"

UKIP voter: "fab!! where do i sign?"

Equally Farage treads the line of acceptability deliberately fine.

He does it for the very reason that it provokes the sort of response he gets.

At which point he can do his whole "I'm not racist, I'm just protecting our country blah blah" speech and the swivel eyed loons think "what a nice man".

It is a clever tactic.

The worrying thing is so few have exposed his intelorance, racism and double standards as well as that interview Bruce linked. If a few more did then UKIP would sink without a trace.

If a few of the swivel-eyed loons who think the UK is still full of dark satanic mills and vote for the socialists 'just because my dad did and his dad' used the few grey cells they had then Labour would sink without trace!
Mind you a vote for socialists these days is for all the down and outs, single teen mothers, dole bashing, benefit cheating, throw bricks at anyone defying the party line and paid for by the union bullies! Oh so thats ok then.
A party with magnificent members like Cliff feckin' big pocket Morris as members, ever been to a union meet or labour party meeting? you'd get more democracy in the Kremlin!

Sad when a seemed clever bloke can just resort to purile fun when he sees his version of socialist utophia under threat (I'm looking at you Pru) shame I won't be around when he wakes up later in life to reality.

Firstly, back-handed or not, here at Pru Towers we receive all compliments graciously, so ta.

Secondly, the puerile bit might carry a bit more force were it not for your very next post right below!
Thirdly, I don't have a vision of a socialist utopia. I did the whole 15 year old commie thing, late to the scene, in my late teens early twenties. My views have changed a lot since then, and I have no idea of a utopia, mainly because I try to reject ideology now where I can.

Fourthly, regardless, I don't feel under threat from Nigel Farrage. He is the leader of a one issue party which has a minority support on that issue; a minority support which is sizeable, but also a long, long way from way from being a majority. Not only that, but the vast majority of those who do support him on that issue, don't think the issue itself is important enough that they'd vote for his party in elections which concern other things. I have no concern that UKIP will ever get more than a couple of MPs, if that, or that their support will reach a level where Britain will end up pulling out of the EU. History may prove me wrong, but I'm genuinely not worried by Farrage!

The leaders of the other parties are worred by Farrage, but not because they're scared of losing to him, but because they're scared he'll make them lose to the others.

Irony, dear boy, Irony

Nice to see you have a larger view on the world of politics, one thing you must not forget though is the sizeable minority will continue to grow because as one gets older one's view of the world as you alluded too yourself, changes.
Never forget there will always be more oldies than youth fuelled idealists

[Hoboh]

The biggest problem with UKIP is that their popularity just makes the Tories even worse than usual as they clamour to win back the small minded middle englanders who've defected with a bunch of stupid policies.

UKIP's biggest problem is a small vocal minority of clots who speak before thinking, not that this as ever bothered the other party's before like!
So the Massive big headed Middle Englanders who are happy to sell out to the French and Germans shouldn't be worried then

[thebish]

our brave troops died in their hundreds of thousands so that we could one day vote for Farage????

[Lost Leopard Spot]

UKIP = Tits.
The problem is that I don't see much difference between Labour, Tories, Green party, BNP, Respect, Communists, or any and every party that has been formed and fought an election. All politicians lie and distort in order to get elected and once elected all of the f*ckers become corrupt and attempt to hold on to whatever 'power' they have. In this country, on my lifetime there have been three exceptions: psrty-wise the Lib-Dems and Raving Monster Loony Party stand out as being less evil but equally much bigger buffoons than all the other parties. The third exception was Tam Dalyell who was Britain's nearest politician to the only really stupendous politician in my lifetime, which despite his reprehensible terrorist roots was the outstanding Mandella.
Nobody else comes close, not even to within one percent.
So politicians, political parties, and all your partisan arguments: a pox on the lot of you.

[TANGODANCER]

How would Genghis Khan have handled it Spots? I haven't bothered with politics since Oliver Cromwell retired.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

How would Genghis Khan have handled it Spots? I haven't bothered with politics since Oliver Cromwell retired.

He pulled up outside the major city of Khwarzm and gave them an ultimatum: all who surrendered and accepted the Mongols as overlords would live the life they already had, those who refused who be mercilessly slaughtered and their heads piled high. He gave them the three days it would take his army to congregate.
Meanwhile all the politicians met and rejected his ultimatum. A group of citizens tried to leave and were slaughtered by the Khwarazmians.
Long/short Genghis made a pile of skulls and was forever after compared to Huns and Vandals, and yet no other city ever dared say Nay, and the most peaceful, widespread, religiosly tolerant, politically advanced Empire has never been seen since. Nor ever will.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ The moral is, Democracy is over-rated. Dictatorship is the way forward...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

But only if you're an inclusive dictator.

[jaffka]

why did people shit themselves about the oncoming horde if he was so benign?

[Lord Kangana]

All this talk of UKIP just gives them the oxygen of publicity they want. Its fascinating that a party with absolutely no representation in the only Parliament it purports to recognise the full legitimacy of, has managed to gain equal billing as people who can show hundreds of seats. Even Nick Clegg smashes their support out of this galaxy.

It is also frightening that the mainstream media have pandered to this approach of whining about lack of publicity. I say unreservedly that it bears exact comparison with the Nazi propaganda machine. Repeat a lie often enough it will be believed. I see it unfolding before my eyes.

[Hoboh]

“Are we all clear that we want to build something that can aspire to be a world power? In other words, not just a trading bloc but a political entity. Do we realise that our nation states, taken individually, would find it far more difficult to assert their existence and their identity on the world stage.”

“We already have a federation. The 11, soon to be 12, member States adopting the euro have already given up part of their sovereignty, monetary sovereignty, and formed a monetary union, and that is the first step towards a federation.”

“Thanks to the euro, our pockets will soon hold solid evidence of a European identity. We need to build on this, and make the euro more than a currency and Europe more than a territory… In the next six months, we will talk a lot about political union, and rightly so. Political union is inseparable from economic union. Stronger growth and Euorpean integration are related issues. In both areas we will take concrete steps forward.”

“Transforming the European Union into a single State with one army, one constitution and one foreign policy is the critical challenge of the age," German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer.

“Federalism might make eurosceptics laugh but, with the creation of the euro,the halfway stage would be reached. Four key organisms would have a federal or quasi-federal status: the Central Bank, the Court of Justice, the Commission and the Parliament. Only one institution is missing: a federal government.”

I could fill the whole site with this stuff!

Some people really need to wake up to what the Eurocrats are really upto.