The Climate (not weather) Thread

[Bruce Rioja]

Salmon farmers in California (a 2 billion dollar industry) are having to transport the spratling Chinook salmon by road due to a three year drought, the worst in history, having dried up the rivers so much that they no longer exist. If rain doesn't occur soon the trucking exercise will be redundant as the fish will no longer have a river to home in on and Californian salmon will be extinct. (I can already hear the anti-tree hugger bollix about this being just weather heading my way).

Is their meat red or pink?

I don't know. Does it make a difference? Providing of course that it will be no colour at all if they die out.

It does, yes. Red is far superior. Farmed salmon is generally pink. In fact, I seem to recall the good Lord Kangana telling us that some force-fed farmed salmon have pellets put into their food to turn their meat pink from white.

[bobo the clown]

The climate was fckg cold at the Reebok today, I'll tell you that !!

Whereas in Greater Chester it appears it's been warmish and bright all day. Damnit.

[Bruce Rioja]

The climate was fckg cold at the Reebok today, I'll tell you that !!

Whereas in Greater Chester it appears it's been warmish and bright all day. Damnit.

How come whenever there's a bit of a breeze we end up with several hundredweight of shite blowing across the pitch in the second half? Today it looked like we must have had the Pikeys on at half time?!

[thebish]

a little gift for Hoboh...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05 ... 11401.html

[Prufrock]

I bloody love John Oliver.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

My brother, who I don't speak to that often, but because my father has just undergone a hernia op rang me this weekend, has just told me he has escaped from Armageddon! A week's holiday in Bulgaria not just washed out but destroyed totally. He said somebody told him that a year's worth of rain fell on the mountains in the space of half a day. Sitting in cafe, absorbing this knowledge and the village got wiped out by floodwaters within an hour of being given the word. He managed to escape but reckons there were many houses swept away and thinks there will be dead.

[bobo the clown]

Nice climate here this weekend though !!!

[Dujon]

I'm glad to read that your brother managed to dodge the worst of it, Spotty. Imagination informs that was probably frightening.

Climate change. Reading about these 'one-off' events led to me pondering over my erstwhile hobby, amateur radio. Oh, I still maintain my licence but I rarely turn on the radios these days and certainly not in serious experimentation. So I thought a look at the distance records on VHF from my neck of the woods (VK2 = NSW) would throw some sort of dim light on the subject. In an over all sense it does.

http://www.wia.org.au/members/records/d ... 140430.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VK2ZAL VK5BC 18/01/58 965.4
VK2AH ZL3AR 15/12/51 2103.0
VK2ASZ/2 ZL3AQ 31/12/61 2159.3
VK2ZKP ZLIAUM 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZKP ZL1ADE 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZMR ZL2AAH 08/01/65 2268.7
VK2ATO/2 ZL2HP 02/01/66 2344.0
VK2FG VK6AOM 13/12/86 2652.2
VK2ZRU VK6AOM 13/12/86 2697.9
VK2KRR VK6JR 02/01/06 2933.3
VK2ZT VK6BE 19/12/07 3137.2
VK2ZT VK6WG 30/12/08 3140.4

By way of explanation: The first group is the call sign of the VK2 station and the second that of the other station. Then there's the date followed by the distance between the two stations (in kilometres). The other stations (ZL and VK6) are New Zealand and West Australian respectively. My apologies for not tabulating the details as I would like but this site will not allow it. Maybe I'm skiting but I was the first recorded contact between VK2 and VK6.

The main point is the dates/months of all those record contacts. Every one of them was between the dates of December 13 and January 18. The years vary from 1958 to 2008. Over those years technology and skills did appreciate as did the number of operators. As you will understand, dear reader, if there is no one to answer there is no chance of a reply. Whilst it's a very narrow view of the world and its climatology this little window would indicate that little has changed.

[TANGODANCER]

Nice climate here this weekend though !!!

And as he speaks it starts pxssing down.

[Bruce Rioja]

That's all well and good, Dujon. However, I simply know this - that yesterday I pulled an overgrown bush out of the front garden and ended up wetter than an otter's pocket because it was that hot.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm glad to read that your brother managed to dodge the worst of it, Spotty. Imagination informs that was probably frightening.

Climate change. Reading about these 'one-off' events led to me pondering over my erstwhile hobby, amateur radio. Oh, I still maintain my licence but I rarely turn on the radios these days and certainly not in serious experimentation. So I thought a look at the distance records on VHF from my neck of the woods (VK2 = NSW) would throw some sort of dim light on the subject. In an over all sense it does.

http://www.wia.org.au/members/records/d ... 140430.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VK2ZAL VK5BC 18/01/58 965.4
VK2AH ZL3AR 15/12/51 2103.0
VK2ASZ/2 ZL3AQ 31/12/61 2159.3
VK2ZKP ZLIAUM 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZKP ZL1ADE 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZMR ZL2AAH 08/01/65 2268.7
VK2ATO/2 ZL2HP 02/01/66 2344.0
VK2FG VK6AOM 13/12/86 2652.2
VK2ZRU VK6AOM 13/12/86 2697.9
VK2KRR VK6JR 02/01/06 2933.3
VK2ZT VK6BE 19/12/07 3137.2
VK2ZT VK6WG 30/12/08 3140.4

By way of explanation: The first group is the call sign of the VK2 station and the second that of the other station. Then there's the date followed by the distance between the two stations (in kilometres). The other stations (ZL and VK6) are New Zealand and West Australian respectively. My apologies for not tabulating the details as I would like but this site will not allow it. Maybe I'm skiting but I was the first recorded contact between VK2 and VK6.

The main point is the dates/months of all those record contacts. Every one of them was between the dates of December 13 and January 18. The years vary from 1958 to 2008. Over those years technology and skills did appreciate as did the number of operators. As you will understand, dear reader, if there is no one to answer there is no chance of a reply. Whilst it's a very narrow view of the world and its climatology this little window would indicate that little has changed.

I would be surprised if it had because the highs and lows aren't changing that much, its the averages that are going up, and by miniscule amounts in terms of perception.

Put it this way though, and this may well stun you (or not as the case may be) - but it is estimated that the heat content of the world's oceans have increased due to global warming (aka climate change) over the past half century by 0.75 degrees centigrade - wow, I can hear you say *stunned gasps of incredulity* not.
The thing is, that there is a difference between temperature and heat. If you took a ton of steel and a needle, and heated the needle to a million degrees centigrade it would hold approximately the same heat content as the ton of steel at room temperature, and here's the thing itself: in order to raise the temperature of the world's oceans by 0.75 degrees centigrade it would take approximatly the same energy as that released by ten billion Hiroshima sized atom bombs. It is an enormous amount of heat/energy.

[Gary the Enfield]

I'm glad to read that your brother managed to dodge the worst of it, Spotty. Imagination informs that was probably frightening.

Climate change. Reading about these 'one-off' events led to me pondering over my erstwhile hobby, amateur radio. Oh, I still maintain my licence but I rarely turn on the radios these days and certainly not in serious experimentation. So I thought a look at the distance records on VHF from my neck of the woods (VK2 = NSW) would throw some sort of dim light on the subject. In an over all sense it does.

http://www.wia.org.au/members/records/d ... 140430.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VK2ZAL VK5BC 18/01/58 965.4
VK2AH ZL3AR 15/12/51 2103.0
VK2ASZ/2 ZL3AQ 31/12/61 2159.3
VK2ZKP ZLIAUM 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZKP ZL1ADE 24/12/63 2173.8
VK2ZMR ZL2AAH 08/01/65 2268.7
VK2ATO/2 ZL2HP 02/01/66 2344.0
VK2FG VK6AOM 13/12/86 2652.2
VK2ZRU VK6AOM 13/12/86 2697.9
VK2KRR VK6JR 02/01/06 2933.3
VK2ZT VK6BE 19/12/07 3137.2
VK2ZT VK6WG 30/12/08 3140.4

By way of explanation: The first group is the call sign of the VK2 station and the second that of the other station. Then there's the date followed by the distance between the two stations (in kilometres). The other stations (ZL and VK6) are New Zealand and West Australian respectively. My apologies for not tabulating the details as I would like but this site will not allow it. Maybe I'm skiting but I was the first recorded contact between VK2 and VK6.

The main point is the dates/months of all those record contacts. Every one of them was between the dates of December 13 and January 18. The years vary from 1958 to 2008. Over those years technology and skills did appreciate as did the number of operators. As you will understand, dear reader, if there is no one to answer there is no chance of a reply. Whilst it's a very narrow view of the world and its climatology this little window would indicate that little has changed.

I would be surprised if it had because the highs and lows aren't changing that much, its the averages that are going up, and by miniscule amounts in terms of perception.

Put it this way though, and this may well stun you (or not as the case may be) - but it is estimated that the heat content of the world's oceans have increased due to global warming (aka climate change) over the past half century by 0.75 degrees centigrade - wow, I can hear you say *stunned gasps of incredulity* not.
The thing is, that there is a difference between temperature and heat. If you took a ton of steel and a needle, and heated the needle to a million degrees centigrade it would hold approximately the same heat content as the ton of steel at room temperature, and here's the thing itself: in order to raise the temperature of the world's oceans by 0.75 degrees centigrade it would take approximatly the same energy as that released by ten billion Hiroshima sized atom bombs. It is an enormous amount of heat/energy.

Hmmmm so no wetsuit required then?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You shouldn't need one anyway, you wimp. I've seen Russian grandmas breaking the ice with sledgehammers before they go for a swim.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

That's all well and good, Dujon. However, I simply know this - that yesterday I pulled an overgrown bush out of the front garden and ended up wetter than an otter's pocket because it was that hot.

Was it humid? I ask because the 2 hottest months here are July and August. The worst month is September, which feels far hotter due to the even worse humidity, even though it is usually a lot lower temperature wise.

I might as well apologise now for the bitching and moaning about the heat. June is almost here and the weather from then until October is simply horrible. So apologies in advance for my inevitable whinging

[Gary the Enfield]

You shouldn't need one anyway, you wimp. I've seen Russian grandmas breaking the ice with sledgehammers before they go for a swim.

[Bruce Rioja]

That's all well and good, Dujon. However, I simply know this - that yesterday I pulled an overgrown bush out of the front garden and ended up wetter than an otter's pocket because it was that hot.

Was it humid? I ask because the 2 hottest months here are July and August. The worst month is September, which feels far hotter due to the even worse humidity, even though it is usually a lot lower temperature wise.

I might as well apologise now for the bitching and moaning about the heat. June is almost here and the weather from then until October is simply horrible. So apologies in advance for my inevitable whinging

Not at all, AT. Bright blue sky and around 22 deg C which, in case you've forgot, is fecking hot fer Bowton.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

That's all well and good, Dujon. However, I simply know this - that yesterday I pulled an overgrown bush out of the front garden and ended up wetter than an otter's pocket because it was that hot.

Was it humid? I ask because the 2 hottest months here are July and August. The worst month is September, which feels far hotter due to the even worse humidity, even though it is usually a lot lower temperature wise.

I might as well apologise now for the bitching and moaning about the heat. June is almost here and the weather from then until October is simply horrible. So apologies in advance for my inevitable whinging

Not at all, AT. Bright blue sky and around 22 deg C which, in case you've forgot, is fecking hot fer Bowton.

I think I have forgotten. My last trip to Blighty was in the hot spell in late July last year. I now feel cold if it is less than 20c! The Mrs was wearing a cardy the other day and it was 38c The thing I miss most being here is the seasons.

[Montreal Wanderer]

That's all well and good, Dujon. However, I simply know this - that yesterday I pulled an overgrown bush out of the front garden and ended up wetter than an otter's pocket because it was that hot.

Was it humid? I ask because the 2 hottest months here are July and August. The worst month is September, which feels far hotter due to the even worse humidity, even though it is usually a lot lower temperature wise.

I might as well apologise now for the bitching and moaning about the heat. June is almost here and the weather from then until October is simply horrible. So apologies in advance for my inevitable whinging

Not at all, AT. Bright blue sky and around 22 deg C which, in case you've forgot, is fecking hot fer Bowton.

I think I have forgotten. My last trip to Blighty was in the hot spell in late July last year. I now feel cold if it is less than 20c! The Mrs was wearing a cardy the other day and it was 38c The thing I miss most being here is the seasons.

You have two seasons, don't you? Dry and hot, and humid and effing hot.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

You have two seasons, don't you? Dry and hot, and humid and effing hot.

We get 4 months of fairly civilised weather (Dec to Mar), though it does sometimes rain mud and can be a bit windy (think sand in your eyes/mouth). In summary for anyone thinking of visiting the region sometime...

Jan/Feb - Coolest months, up to mid/late 20s at most, mornings a chilly 8-16c.
Mar/April - Late 20s to mid 30s. Can be a bit unsettled with sandstorms and rain (it tends to rain mud).
May - 30-40c and higher humidity, though not too bad. Some sand storms.
June - More humid, mid 30s to mid 40s.
July - bloody hot and your glasses steam up.
August - Stick the oven on full blast, open door, stick your head in - it's roughly that hot! Your eyeballs feel like melting and you feel really clever that you paid extra to get remote start on the car. I've registered 56c in the shade in my garden during August. Rarely drops below 40c, even at night.
September - 40s and up to 100% humidity. Just horrible.
October - A bit like June
November - Can be hot, but more like June with less humidity.
December - A bit like September in the Mediterranean. Arguably the best month.

Quite why the Brits think the weather is ace here I'll never know. Don't get me wrong, I like a bit of sunshine, but the weather here is crap 5 months of the year, alright 3 months and pretty decent for 4 months.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

A new poll in America correlates how right wing you are by seeing if you agree that climate change is man made. The more right wing the less you agree. Right wingers generally also don't believe in evolution and think abortion should be illegal. (They were going to ask about banning guns too, until a number of Tea party supporters started threatening to shoot the pollsters - I'm not kidding).
Anyway the questions they asked were:
1) Do you believe scientists when they say climate change is happening and that mankind is a significant factor in causing it (respondents who said Yes).
2) After counselling by a doctor, do you believe it should be a legal right for women to choose an abortion for a fetus under twenty four weeks of age (respondents who said Yes)
3) Do you believe in the scientific theory of evolution in which Human beings evolved from earlier forms of life, in a process that took millions of years (respondents who said Yes)