Today I'm happy about......

[bobo the clown]

You really are a fckg moron.

[jaffka]

I quite like using the train now and again.

[LeverEnd]

I quite like using the train now and again.

I like to ride the omnibus from Horwich to Bolton prior to a night out.

[jaffka]

Are jeans still banned from Bolton town centre on nights out?

[malcd1]

Are jeans still banned from Bolton town centre on nights out?

When was the last time you went out in Bolton town centre? in the 1990's?

[bobo the clown]

I'm on the train tomorrow. Going to that London, central. Anywhere less direct and it all comes a tumbling.

my office used to be 11 miles away and it took under 15 minutes to get there. By bus it would take over an hour. Not to mention the walk to & from, the weather, the potential that it may be full, the plebs. Why on God's green Earth would I chose to do that ?

[jaffka]

Are jeans still banned from Bolton town centre on nights out?

When was the last time you went out in Bolton town centre? in the 1990's?

Probably will be.

That club called Atlantis was open, a bus took you there from the town centre.

Quite a good night

[jaffka]

I'm on the train tomorrow. Going to that London, central. Anywhere less direct and it all comes a tumbling.

my office used to be 11 miles away and it took under 15 minutes to get there. By bus it would take over an hour. Not to mention the walk to & from, the weather, the potential that it may be full, the plebs. Why on God's green Earth would I chose to do that ?

For when you are going on the lash straight from work.

[bobo the clown]

I'm on the train tomorrow. Going to that London, central. Anywhere less direct and it all comes a tumbling.

my office used to be 11 miles away and it took under 15 minutes to get there. By bus it would take over an hour. Not to mention the walk to & from, the weather, the potential that it may be full, the plebs. Why on God's green Earth would I chose to do that ?

For when you are going on the lash straight from work.

I'd get a lift or get a taxi. I sure wouldn't spend an hour plus on a bus.

[Prufrock]

Mixing with hoi polloi isn't good for the soul.

[bobo the clown]

Mixing with hoi polloi isn't good for the soul.

well .... quite.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

How about waiting for the bus in 56 degrees? How about the small towns that get a bus in each direction a day? Not every town has practical public transportation (or any). In fact the majority don't have anything viable for most people. As for your small towns, they just happen to be next to fairly large towns, which generally have more public transport than those not next to large towns. As for saving money? Not always. Have you seen the cost of some season tickets? Recognise that you have a limited amount of experience of life and stop pretending it is more.

[jaffka]

Poor dan, this is supposed to be the happy thread as well.

[Beefheart]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

[malcd1]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

Off peak between (some) major towns and cities, trains are great and cheap compared to petrol and parking. I go into Manchester a fair bit with work and nights out. Great.

I agree with though on rush hour travelling. An absolute disgrace. Massively overcrowded and expensive considering I invariably have to stand up most of the way. If they put twice as many carriages on at rush hour, they would still fill the trains. While on my soap box, the council/government/train operators need to quadruple the amount of parking at all train stations.

People will definitely use public transport if the infrastructure improves. That is where the money needs to be spent. More carriages and better parking.

[Beefheart]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

Off peak between (some) major towns and cities, trains are great and cheap compared to petrol and parking. I go into Manchester a fair bit with work and nights out. Great.

I agree with though on rush hour travelling. An absolute disgrace. Massively overcrowded and expensive considering I invariably have to stand up most of the way. If they put twice as many carriages on at rush hour, they would still fill the trains. While on my soap box, the council/government/train operators need to quadruple the amount of parking at all train stations.

People will definitely use public transport if the infrastructure improves. That is where the money needs to be spent. More carriages and better parking.

The problem for me has been when I haven't been going to major towns or cities. You might have to get 2 or 3 trains, each of which may run once an hour to get to a train station some distance from where you need to be. Not sure how I did it for so long!

[Gary the Enfield]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

Off peak between (some) major towns and cities, trains are great and cheap compared to petrol and parking. I go into Manchester a fair bit with work and nights out. Great.

I agree with though on rush hour travelling. An absolute disgrace. Massively overcrowded and expensive considering I invariably have to stand up most of the way. If they put twice as many carriages on at rush hour, they would still fill the trains. While on my soap box, the council/government/train operators need to quadruple the amount of parking at all train stations.

People will definitely use public transport if the infrastructure improves. That is where the money needs to be spent. More carriages and better parking.

The problem for me has been when I haven't been going to major towns or cities. You might have to get 2 or 3 trains, each of which may run once an hour to get to a train station some distance from where you need to be. Not sure how I did it for so long!

I used to travel between home and work by train and took two overground and one tube line for my journey. A mile walk at each end added to the delight. Bearing in mind I was only travelling 20 miles across London this journey would take me 1hr 45 minutes at best and was frequently longer due to delays/ cancellations etc. I did this for the best part of 9 years.

Once I got my car the journey took just over an hour. If there was a traffic jam I took an alternative route. I had plenty of room, my own choice of music and the amount of colds and sniffles reduced dramatically from once every 6 weeks or so to just once or twice a year.

Stick your public transport up your arse.

[Hoboh]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

Off peak between (some) major towns and cities, trains are great and cheap compared to petrol and parking. I go into Manchester a fair bit with work and nights out. Great.

I agree with though on rush hour travelling. An absolute disgrace. Massively overcrowded and expensive considering I invariably have to stand up most of the way. If they put twice as many carriages on at rush hour, they would still fill the trains. While on my soap box, the council/government/train operators need to quadruple the amount of parking at all train stations.

People will definitely use public transport if the infrastructure improves. That is where the money needs to be spent. More carriages and better parking.

I'd bet they won't, who wants to sit near people you'd be quite inclined to shoot given the choice? The great unwashed, youths, babies screaming with idiot mums, more youths texting the moron sat next to them, nawww no chance.
If people want better busses and trains they should pay for it, public transport wasn't a charity last time I looked,anyway Manchester city centre is clogged up by jams, of feckin' half empty busses!!!

[malcd1]

I have spent my whole life living in small towns (Horwich and Wokingham) and can confirm without doubt it has saved me thousands of pounds and probably a decent amount of time. For most catching the train would save them 100s of pounds a year and that's not considering the fact that you have to buy the car in the first place, something quite a few can't afford.

Having spent years using public transport to get to clients all over the country and recently passing my driving test I can say that public transport is definitely worse 99 times out of 100 (I'm not including London in this). I'd rather be stuck in traffic for hours then mess around with late, infrequent and overcrowded trains.

Rather than HS2 they should really invest in the local train networks outside of London and the South, it really is awful.

Off peak between (some) major towns and cities, trains are great and cheap compared to petrol and parking. I go into Manchester a fair bit with work and nights out. Great.

I agree with though on rush hour travelling. An absolute disgrace. Massively overcrowded and expensive considering I invariably have to stand up most of the way. If they put twice as many carriages on at rush hour, they would still fill the trains. While on my soap box, the council/government/train operators need to quadruple the amount of parking at all train stations.

People will definitely use public transport if the infrastructure improves. That is where the money needs to be spent. More carriages and better parking.

I'd bet they won't, who wants to sit near people you'd be quite inclined to shoot given the choice? The great unwashed, youths, babies screaming with idiot mums, more youths texting the moron sat next to them, nawww no chance.
If people want better busses and trains they should pay for it, public transport wasn't a charity last time I looked,anyway Manchester city centre is clogged up by jams, of feckin' half empty busses!!!

I meant trains when talking about public transport. Buses are crap.

[Hoboh]

I meant trains when talking about public transport. Buses are crap.

But you miss the point I never and I suspect quite a few use or rarely use the Train, we pay a lot of cash to use the roads but why should we pay to subsidise trains?
If they don't pay there way then like anything else that is non essential they should go bust or if people want to travel on them in style they should pay whatever the going rate is.
Its bad enough all these bloody cyclists getting lanes and priorities without stumping up any tax or insurance but trains and busses take the p*ss.
Society is expected to pay too much for other peoples choices, there is a limit.