Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

[TKIZ!]

Frazier Campbell on his way to Crystal Palace, maybe a chance to loan out Glen Murray?

[Bruce Rioja]

Frazier Campbell on his way to Crystal Palace, maybe a chance to loan out Glen Murray?

What happened to old Superboots from Palace? Is he still with the Rags or did they flog him off?

[BWFC_Insane]

Frazier Campbell on his way to Crystal Palace, maybe a chance to loan out Glen Murray?

That would be nice....

[bobo the clown]

Frazier Campbell on his way to Crystal Palace, maybe a chance to loan out Glen Murray?

What happened to old Superboots from Palace? Is he still with the Rags or did they flog him off?

Still there (after an unsuccessful long loan at Cardiff ... Eluned thought he was "Shite Mawr").

Apparently he's on van Gaal's list to shift out (known at the moment as his 'everyone will be given a chance' list).

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Frazier Campbell on his way to Crystal Palace, maybe a chance to loan out Glen Murray?

That would be nice....

That would be late August at best. A dangerous waiting game. If anyone could persuade him to drop a division it'd be DF... but it'd be interesting to see if Palace would do business. Have they loaned us anyone since we swiped Freedman? (Moxey and Moritz were free agents.)

In other news, Chungy to Cardiff keeps getting mentioned... to which DF says (source: BN):

There are four or five of them in that situation [running out of contract, club unable/unwilling to extend]. In that respect it’s a crucial year – what is the club’s future? I’ll always try to advise the board about someone I think can do a job for us now and someone who might do a job further down the line and go from there. But right now, Chungy is certainly a part of what we are trying to do.

Contracts don’t mean anything on the training ground. Players turn up on Monday morning and I want them at their best. If, like Chungy, they have got a year left then we need to look at the business side of it, his ambition, and the club’s ambition. If you can marry them together, so to speak, we’ll work it out. But if something can’t be worked out, we’ll shake them by the hand and wish them well.

Nothing has come through me at all [about Cardiff's interest] – I’m expecting him back at the beginning of next week. He got married last week so hopefully he comes back a happy man.

DF on Keith Andrews, who was offered the captaincy at Huddersfield but didn't get taken to Scandiwegia with us (source: BN):

You can only take so many players on tour and I’d explained to Keith that I wanted to take a look at some of the younger ones, Josh Vela in particular. Keith wants to play week-in, week-out and I can’t guarantee that. At his age he should want to be playing every week and rightly so, he’s been a good professional around this place.
As we speak he’s got a decision to make. He either goes and gets first-team football somewhere and gets himself sorted or he’s happy to be in the squad. That’s all down to him. I think his preference would be to play, and of course, I understand that.
I’m sure there will be clubs interested in him because he did very well at Brighton last season. He's a good professional and there is no problem between him and me at all.
I need to look at the whole package – financially, who’s coming through. And I just think that with Medo and Josh Vela coming through I need to look more into the future. I’ve been very honest with Keith and he’s conducted himself very well.

And on strikers (source: BN):

I’ll say right now that we’re probably not going to get a big name through the door who’s done everything. But then I’d remind a few people that when Lukas Jutkiewicz came in, people were asking ‘who’s this guy?’ But I’d like to think that fans understand how I work, how I bring players in and try to make them better. It can take time to find the right one because I’m not going to just sign someone for the sake of it – that spells panic in my book.
It might not be the big player that everyone wants but I believe it can be a player who everyone can again take to their hearts like a Jutkiewicz, a Craig Dawson, a Joe Mason, a Liam Feeney or a Kevin McNaughton.
Putting all that [scouting and analysis] in place was one of the first major things I did here behind the scenes. Listen, I know that results in the first six months of last season did not reflect the hard work that has gone in there, but I firmly believe in time they will.
We’ve really ripped apart the scouting structure at the club. We are using younger guys, dynamic guys, using state of the art technology to find players who will play in a certain way.

And, while we're at it, on McNaughton and Baptiste (source: BN):

What people don’t necessarily see in Kevin is that he makes people play better around him. Is he a 10 out of 10 player every week? No, probably not, but he’s a very solid citizen, he’s 7 out of 10. Players around him play at 5 or 10% better when he’s on the pitch and when you’re working in a team, that’s all you can ask.
It was a blow last season when he got called back to Cardiff and the manager wanted to play him in the Premier League, I won’t lie. But when it came up that he had become available I had to again balance the books and tell Alex Baptiste very openly and honestly that I was bringing in another right-back and that I couldn’t guarantee him a first-team spot next season. If he wanted it, Blackburn were offering it, so we changed it around.
That was an example of when the timing goes right. We’ve talked about it not being right with Jutkiewicz – but this was spot on.

[ChrisC]

From Burnden Aces..

Lee Chung-Yong's future as a Bolton player has been put under the spotlight, with manager Dougie Freedman doubtful the club can afford to retain his wages.

Chung-Yong recently entered the final 12 months of his contract at the Macron Stadium and is about to embark on his sixth campaign at the club, since joining in a £2.2million transfer from FC Seoul in the summer of 2009.

The South Korea international has been linked with Hull City and Cardiff City in recent weeks and although Freedman says no offers have been forthcoming for the midfielder, he admits to being unsure about the player's long-term future with the Trotters.

"There are four or five of them in that situation," Freedman told The Bolton News. "In that respect it's a crucial year - what is the club's future?

"I'll always try to advise the board about someone I think can do a job for us now and someone who might do a job further down the line and go from there. But right now, Chungy is certainly a part of what we are trying to do.

"Contracts don't mean anything on the training ground. Players turn up on Monday morning and I want them at their best.

"If, like Chungy, they have got a year left then we need to look at the business side of it, his ambition, and the club's ambition.

"If you can marry them together, so to speak, we'll work it out.

"But if something can't be worked out, we'll shake them by the hand and wish them well.

"Nothing has come through me at all - I'm expecting him back at the beginning of next week.

"He got married last week so hopefully he comes back a happy man."

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

And that shows why I just post the quotes: the exact same quotes have been used by Tribal Football with the headline "Bolton Boss Keen to Keep Cardiff Target Lee".

[Bruce Rioja]

And that shows why I just post the quotes: the exact same quotes have been used by Tribal Football with the headline "Bolton Boss Keen to Keep Cardiff Target Lee".

Well you may as well not have bothered

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Do the Italians have a similar system to the Premiership with a limited number of players in a squad?
If so when do they have to list their squads by?
and how do I contact Freedman to persuade him to sign up Luis Fernando Muriel Fruto from Udinese on loan? (I fancy myself as a scout. it must be a better job than the one I've got).

[StaffsTrotter]

Do the Italians have a similar system to the Premiership with a limited number of players in a squad?
If so when do they have to list their squads by?
and how do I contact Freedman to persuade him to sign up Luis Fernando Muriel Fruto from Udinese on loan? (I fancy myself as a scout. it must be a better job than the one I've got).

do you fulfill the DF criteria ?

“We’ve really ripped apart the scouting structure at the club. We are using younger guys, dynamic guys, using state of the art technology to find players who will play in a certain way.”

[TANGODANCER]

“We’ve really ripped apart the scouting structure at the club. We are using younger guys, dynamic guys, using state of the art technology to find players who will play in a certain way.”

I want to be wrong, very wrong, I'll stand being laughed at in fact, for saying that sounds like a monstrous load of absolute bollox. What's next, robots?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Do the Italians have a similar system to the Premiership with a limited number of players in a squad?
If so when do they have to list their squads by?
and how do I contact Freedman to persuade him to sign up Luis Fernando Muriel Fruto from Udinese on loan? (I fancy myself as a scout. it must be a better job than the one I've got).

do you fulfill the DF criteria ?

“We’ve really ripped apart the scouting structure at the club. We are using younger guys, dynamic guys, using state of the art technology to find players who will play in a certain way.”

Criteria unfulfilled

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Do the Italians have a similar system to the Premiership with a limited number of players in a squad?
If so when do they have to list their squads by?
and how do I contact Freedman to persuade him to sign up Luis Fernando Muriel Fruto from Udinese on loan? (I fancy myself as a scout. it must be a better job than the one I've got).

do you fulfill the DF criteria ?

“We’ve really ripped apart the scouting structure at the club. We are using younger guys, dynamic guys, using state of the art technology to find players who will play in a certain way.”

Criteria unfulfilled

I suspect a liberal sprinkling of faddy buzzwords and a little JayJaying your age might do the trick

[jaffka]

So we have kids making recommendations from football manager, fifa and pro evolution football.

I am so looking forward to a new record breaking season.

[BWFC_Insane]

So we have kids making recommendations from football manager, fifa and pro evolution football.

I am so looking forward to a new record breaking season.

I know you're joking but managers and clubs have used their database before to sift through:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/evert ... r-database

So far only Everton have used it officially by purchasing access to raw data, but I remember seeing an article years back that hinted at more top level clubs using it as a first point of reference due to the amount of people Sports Interactive have monitoring players. I think Mourinho's former Chief Scout at Porto said he used it in an unofficial aspect before

Take from that what you will.

And why wouldn't a club replicate the sort of format with their own database. Not from a football game but more extensive than some bloke in a cap with a scrap of paper.

Nobody suggests all this is the answer to all our prayers but surely modernising aspects of the club such as this is a good thing?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Where, anywhere, has this been validated. In the Real World I mean?
It all sounds like bollix to me. Thrusting mind, very going forward...

[jaffka]

catching up

[jaffka]

The irony!

We had this discussion years ago.

So, its hardly anything new.

[Prufrock]

Yep. Puskas will go mental

Pretty sure Batman was involved with coming up with the BWFC ratings. If you can find one where SKD is the bizz, and Kevin Nolan's weight is 22 stone, it'll be that one!

[jaffka]

Well at least it will now be easier to find players with 20 speed and passing for a cheap price.

Providing no other team knows about this...oh!