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Re: fight the flab

Post by thebish » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:29 pm

Andy Waller wrote:If you want to lose weight Bish, it purely is down to the individual what works.

All I can advise is:
cheers! - some good advice there (though i have read that the 6 meals vs 3 meals stuff is bunk!
Andy Waller wrote: 6. Don't weigh yourself!!! Aim for how you feel and look, I weigh 16st
how do you know?? :wink:

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Re: fight the flab

Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:30 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:what timing - someone posted this somewhere else

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How the hell are you supposed to drag a bagful of food back up your throat?

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Re: fight the flab

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:31 pm

I'm not convinced it's real tbh, or just a joke.

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Re: fight the flab

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:32 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:If I eat before bed I have breakfast cereal usually. Weetabix, granola, that kind of stuff (not sugar puffs or owt). Is that a decent thing to eat prior to bed?

dunno! cheeeeeeese - that's the thing! gives you nightmares - FACT! :D
So that's why I'm getting chased through city centres by helicopter gunships then? I thought it was the red wine.

Ah well, the cheese will just have to go then. :D
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Andy Waller » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:36 pm

thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:If you want to lose weight Bish, it purely is down to the individual what works.

All I can advise is:
cheers! - some good advice there (though i have read that the 6 meals vs 3 meals stuff is bunk!
Andy Waller wrote: 6. Don't weigh yourself!!! Aim for how you feel and look, I weigh 16st
how do you know?? :wink:

I'm not bothered about what I weigh darling, I'm fabulous!

The 6 meal thing isn't really about calorie intake, it's just to stop you having a feeling hungry/full cycle.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by thebish » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:42 pm

current breakfast of choice..

egg - freshly laid and poached - with smoked mackerel slices and a few grilled mushrooms... espresso... yum!

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Re: fight the flab

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:42 pm

To put to bed (ouch) the myths about eating before sleep: it makes no difference - your basic biochemical metabolism doesn't speed up or slow down when sleeping, it is unaffected. What your body is Not doing whilst sleeping however, is burning off the calories it would whilst exercising.
So, if you eat a breakfast, and a dinner, and a tea - it is a BAD idea to eat a meal late on
But, if like GtE and me, you eat late but burn off the stored brown fat during the day (either by doing lots of exercise, or by not eating until late on again in a repeat pattern), it makes absolutely no difference whether you eat at 6am or 10pm.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:56 pm

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:If you want to keep a proper record of your weight, you must always do it at the same time each day (ideally when you get up in the morning). Weigh yourself naked, and after having pooed/weed, but prior to shower/bathing. [Top Tips For Literal Weightwatchers]
i don't think i'll ever be obsessed enough for daily weighing - i'd drive myself mad with all the day-to-day fluctuations.. weekly is quite enough for me...

is there a particular reason that you are so keen to be 140lbs?

what's your theory as to why you can't reach it? if the x+y-z calorie theory is as simple as you make it sound - why don't you just consume fewer or burn more calories each day? that would then get you down to 140lbs. simple!
I need to weigh myself daily to check I;m not getting any complications from the heart failure I suffered - relapses, that sort of shite.
I'm keen to reach 139lbs, because that was the weight I've been for most of my adult life. It felt right. However, after sudden weight loss and near death due to heart failure, I plummeted to a very unhealthy 7 stone. As you can see from the graph I posted, after hospital I put the weight back on, but overshot the mark by about 13 pounds in total.
Yje x+y+z is very simple. It works too. It's life that complicates stuff: basically I drink on average two pints of bitter a day, which is loaded with calories. I make up for that by having a reduced calorific count in food, by eating just one meal. all would be balanced if I did the same amount of exercise each day but I don't because I go to work full time and after eight dreary hours on my arse I don't get out and about like I should. So I haven't hit the target because I haven't sufficient willpower. (There is also a cutoff point where losing weight doesn't benefit but hinders. If you are down to your last grams of brown fat reserves the body starts eating muscle, which isn't good - I haven't got to that point yet, but the closer you do get to it the more resistance the biochemical pathways put up to that sort of balance, until you overwhelm it and head on downward spiral of starvation, like what anorexics suffer. I'm not anorexic, but I'm only about fourteen pounds off the tipping point, and my target is about seven pounds away).
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:01 pm

I bet your bollocks are quite a handsome weight just now aren't they, Spotty? ;)

I looked at your graph and was relieved to see that there's someone on here that's heavier than me. Then I noticed it says Pounds, not Kilo's. :(
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:04 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:I bet your bollocks are quite a handsome weight just now aren't they, Spotty? ;)

I looked at you're graph and was relieved to see that there's someone on here that's heavier than me. Then I noticed it says Pounds, not Kilo's. :(
I haven't weighed my bollocks - a difficult task I fear, when still attached.

Aye, pounds :pissed:

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Re: fight the flab

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:29 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:To put to bed (ouch) the myths about eating before sleep: it makes no difference - your basic biochemical metabolism doesn't speed up or slow down when sleeping, it is unaffected. What your body is Not doing whilst sleeping however, is burning off the calories it would whilst exercising.
So, if you eat a breakfast, and a dinner, and a tea - it is a BAD idea to eat a meal late on
But, if like GtE and me, you eat late but burn off the stored brown fat during the day (either by doing lots of exercise, or by not eating until late on again in a repeat pattern), it makes absolutely no difference whether you eat at 6am or 10pm.
There is mixed evidence for this. But I thought the latest studies did suggest eating later on was not good for losing weight. Will have a google to see if I can find them.....

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Re: fight the flab

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:37 pm

Gary the Enfield wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:what timing - someone posted this somewhere else

http://www.sleeveat.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WT absolute F!
'Kinell!

How the hell are you supposed to drag a bagful of food back up your throat?
That's just a bulimia kit. Horrible.

Nor could I eat with a plastic bag down my gullet.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by boltonboris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:22 pm

Is it real thing, or a weird joke?
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Re: fight the flab

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:51 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a pisstake now.
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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:53 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:I'm pretty sure it's a pisstake now.
Grrrr. Makes you sick.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:57 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:I'm pretty sure it's a pisstake now.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:09 pm

The thing about all this is that we eat food for energy so we can run about and catch more food. If you're eating right before you go to bed you're missing the point of food (depending on what you get up to in bed I suppose :D )

I'm doing this intermittent fasting 16:8 thing a few days a week. So I won't eat food after 8pm, then next day I won't eat until after 12 noon (not eating for 16 hours). It's not exactly a diet because you can eat what you want during the 8 hours. The theory is it takes ages (up to 12 hours) to properly digest everything in your stomach and finish using the energy from that meal. Not eating for 16 hours means your body digests everything in your stomach and has a good while to think about whether it needs to start burning some fat. It's a bit like ramadan but you can choose when you do it and you're not doing it 365 days a year, just a few days a week, or whenever.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:26 pm

Gary the Enfield wrote:
thebish wrote:just to see if there is any interest...

I don't know if I am the only one who might be slightly out of condition as age advances and might be a couple of stone above my previously ideal fighting-fit teenage buff-weight as I sneak quietly past 50...

but - well - I'm a bit too fat. So - not for the first time - I am just embarking on a campaign to slim down. It's too late for me to achieve a beach-bod in time for the summer - but - hey, I feel less hungry when it's hot, so I figured summer is as good a time as any!

this is a thread for anyone who is making a conscious effort to trim the flab - a place to share your triumphs and disasters - tears and joys, heartache, sadness and pain... a place to find a friendly encouraging arm to help you on your journey to the new you... etc.... :wink:

Good for you.

Word to the wise. Eat less and exercise more. Magic formula for weight loss.

Forget your faddy diets, this is where it all starts. You can fine tune from there.


When I say exercise I don't mean a long walk either. Do something that gets you out of breath and your heart racing three times a week for 30 minutes each time.

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Re: fight the flab

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:40 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:The thing about all this is that we eat food for energy so we can run about and catch more food. If you're eating right before you go to bed you're missing the point of food (depending on what you get up to in bed I suppose :D )

I'm doing this intermittent fasting 16:8 thing a few days a week. So I won't eat food after 8pm, then next day I won't eat until after 12 noon (not eating for 16 hours). It's not exactly a diet because you can eat what you want during the 8 hours. The theory is it takes ages (up to 12 hours) to properly digest everything in your stomach and finish using the energy from that meal. Not eating for 16 hours means your body digests everything in your stomach and has a good while to think about whether it needs to start burning some fat. It's a bit like ramadan but you can choose when you do it and you're not doing it 365 days a year, just a few days a week, or whenever.
Sorry, but that's proper nonsense that is, in soooooooo many ways!
What do you think fat stores in the body are for? If you want to catch energy to instantly use it try sugars, and then if you eat nothing else be prepared to die early through lack of sleep because you'll need to keep topping up your energy stores. Just think bears and winter to realise how ridiculouse the concept you've outlined above is.
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Re: fight the flab

Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:56 pm

I've now lost around seven kilos in two months, by cutting out bread and starchy carbs. It's been hard as I love my carbs in any and every guise, but I do feel much better for it. Our old fella had a quadruple heart by pass when he was five years older than I am now and his dad was dead from heart disease at 54. Family statistics are a huge driver for me and I'm aware I need to increase my cardio work outs to a far higher level. Onwards and upwards :-)
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