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Which, given their omnipresence at the time, could only hold water if you're about 12, a moron, or Dan.Beefheart wrote:Prufrock wrote:That's if he didn't die and get replaced?!?!??!??!?!?!?I love that conspiracy theory.
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Re The Beatles, I agree with Dujon to a point. They were the start of a whole new musical era. Up to then lyrics had been pretty much sugar-sweet rubbish that had had its day. Pre that was a great time in its own way because up to the war ending popular music didn't really exist as a force. We had a bunch of crooners and solo artists, many American, and some stuff from even further back still exists as great music; the big bands, Glenn Miller and co, jazz, Ella and her era, the song books of Irvine Berlin, Ivor Novello, George Gershwin, Cole Porter etc,etc, live on.
Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis, etc etc, rock and rolled the fifties away and then in the sixties The Beatles crashed in like a tidal wave, bringing with them the stars of Motown, The Who, The Troggs, The Beach Boys, The Stones, Hendrix, Credence Clearwater, Kinks, Mamas and Papas etc, etc, ad infinitum. Then Woodstock and the hippies arrived, Age of Aquarius etc and music wasn't just mainstream pop any more. The likes of Pat Boone, Jim Reeeves, Perry Como and Andy Williams etc had serious rivals and soon disappeared to weekly plays on Family Favourites and their albums went on sale for fifty pence on the flea markets. Music and tastes became as diversified as football supporters.
Despite their lasting appeal, as a group the Beatles only lasted ten years and broke up in 1970. I'll remember them for Penny LaneStrawberry Fields, and Eleanor Rigby....and not much else really..
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Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis, etc etc, rock and rolled the fifties away and then in the sixties The Beatles crashed in like a tidal wave, bringing with them the stars of Motown, The Who, The Troggs, The Beach Boys, The Stones, Hendrix, Credence Clearwater, Kinks, Mamas and Papas etc, etc, ad infinitum. Then Woodstock and the hippies arrived, Age of Aquarius etc and music wasn't just mainstream pop any more. The likes of Pat Boone, Jim Reeeves, Perry Como and Andy Williams etc had serious rivals and soon disappeared to weekly plays on Family Favourites and their albums went on sale for fifty pence on the flea markets. Music and tastes became as diversified as football supporters.
Despite their lasting appeal, as a group the Beatles only lasted ten years and broke up in 1970. I'll remember them for Penny LaneStrawberry Fields, and Eleanor Rigby....and not much else really..
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Please, please me, like I please you.............................. supposedly the first 'pop' song about oral sex.........
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It was a constant reference in code in old blues music.Il Pirate wrote:Please, please me, like I please you.............................. supposedly the first 'pop' song about oral sex.........
I'd guess there are earlier "pop" songs, but Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side' in 1972 is the one I recall a fuss being made of.
... to stretch a point (oooer, Mrs.) 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie in 1962 or so may be the first hit pop single one.
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What about My ding-a-ling? Does that pre-date that?bobo the clown wrote:It was a constant reference in code in old blues music.Il Pirate wrote:Please, please me, like I please you.............................. supposedly the first 'pop' song about oral sex.........
I'd guess there are earlier "pop" songs, but Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side' in 1972 is the one I recall a fuss being made of.
... to stretch a point (oooer, Mrs.) 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie in 1962 or so may be the first hit pop single one.
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1972 also, but was about a knob, not a blowie..Beefheart wrote:What about My ding-a-ling? Does that pre-date that?bobo the clown wrote:It was a constant reference in code in old blues music.Il Pirate wrote:Please, please me, like I please you.............................. supposedly the first 'pop' song about oral sex.........
I'd guess there are earlier "pop" songs, but Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side' in 1972 is the one I recall a fuss being made of.
... to stretch a point (oooer, Mrs.) 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie in 1962 or so may be the first hit pop single one.
It being the subject for 'Please, please me' was very much disputed. Possibly because it wasn't ... but possibly because the Beatles had a wholesome image and it wouldn't go down well !!! (See what I did there ??)
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^ not that wholesome! "Fish and finger pie" in Penny Lane? Although that was a couple of years or three after PPM.
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Anybody get "Bertha'd" this afternoon. About 5-30, huge gust of wind that ripped the pegs out of the gazebo and we just managed to dash out and grab it. Got pxssed wet through anchoring it down with weights on the corners. Really wild for about fifteen minutes then it passed....hopefully..
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I drove through bits of it on the M6 today, some wobbly lorries and a lot of water on the road. Not my favourite ever motorway drive, accident closed the slip from M62 to M60 which was a massive pain in the arse when I was nearly home.TANGODANCER wrote:Anybody get "Bertha'd" this afternoon. About 5-30, huge gust of wind that ripped the pegs out of the gazebo and we just managed to dash out and grab it. Got pxssed wet through anchoring it down with weights on the corners. Really wild for about fifteen minutes then it passed....hopefully..
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Huge rainfall in South Chester early morning then cleared up beautifully. Unfortunately I went to Lostock & caught up with the rain around Frodsham and was with me till Worsley. Awful to drive through. Lots of standing water and a mixture of people driving at about 30mph and others seeming not to notice and belting along at 80.
Drive back had about 10 miles of more or less static on the M6 from Haydock. I got off and drove through a very quiet Warrington than fully.
Drive back had about 10 miles of more or less static on the M6 from Haydock. I got off and drove through a very quiet Warrington than fully.
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Seems it isn't done with us yet. A massive downpour tonight with a fierce wind lifted the tiles over our door porch, and water poured in. Had to grab bowls and a bucket because it's right over the electric meter cupboard, get a ladder and go out in the pxssing rain to shove the tiles back where they'd slipped. Have to sort it properly tomorrow but I think I've sorted it temporarily. I got really drowned, and even my socks were wringing. Bad stuff. Hope it passes overnight. 

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had a nice day out today - walked from Fingle Bridge along the river and up to Castle Drogo (very interesating in itself)
any way - on display within was a football game-table from the 1920s... was itching to have a go - but a warden was hovering close by!!

any way - on display within was a football game-table from the 1920s... was itching to have a go - but a warden was hovering close by!!

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thebish wrote:had a nice day out today - walked from Fingle Bridge along the river and up to Castle Drogo (very interesating in itself)
any way - on display within was a football game-table from the 1920s... was itching to have a go - but a warden was hovering close by!!

I owned one of those for a while - they are like an early form of subuteo where you flick the man to kick the ball. Each man sits in a little bowl and the rules are that only from the bowl the ball settles in can you flick your man. There are other rules about tackling and where you set up your men that make it completely different to subuteo, but the physical action of passing and scoring is very similar.
Anyway, I rescued mine from a pub that shut many many years ago, and I got it restored (including painting the tin grass green - but it wears off quickly). I sold it at Bonhams auction house some years ago now - I've tried to find the catalogue entry but their online listings don't go back that far, but I think I sold it for about £100, which at the time seemed a reasonable amount. If I had it now, I'd have kept it (don't know where I'd store it though)
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you don't have to flick your man with this one - it has levers!!
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Ah, mine was much less sophisticated. And the men were wooden , most with broken limbs, in fact it resembled a paralympics football table game!thebish wrote:you don't have to flick your man with this one - it has levers!!
Are the men magnetic?
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i don't know - it didn't have any info attached - the whole place has been gutted as they are doing a massive renovation scheme to stop the place leaking through the windows, walls and roof - as it has done since the day Lutyens built it! (or rather - lots of other people built it to Lutyen's design - and the owner then filled the cavity walls with concrete!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Ah, mine was much less sophisticated. And the men were wooden , most with broken limbs, in fact it resembled a paralympics football table game!thebish wrote:you don't have to flick your man with this one - it has levers!!
Are the men magnetic?

anyway - you can see the levers - like old cash-till levers behind the goal - 11 of them!
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I see them. I'd taken the metalwork to be decorative excess, but I see now that it's part of the intricate workings. I've had a quick email exchange with a mate who is into old games and he reckons that the men twirl when the lever is pulled down. He also says that as many own goals are scored as actual goals due to the whirling dervish nature of the playersthebish wrote:i don't know - it didn't have any info attached - the whole place has been gutted as they are doing a massive renovation scheme to stop the place leaking through the windows, walls and roof - as it has done since the day Lutyens built it! (or rather - lots of other people built it to Lutyen's design - and the owner then filled the cavity walls with concrete!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Ah, mine was much less sophisticated. And the men were wooden , most with broken limbs, in fact it resembled a paralympics football table game!thebish wrote:you don't have to flick your man with this one - it has levers!!
Are the men magnetic?)
anyway - you can see the levers - like old cash-till levers behind the goal - 11 of them!

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Sounds like you've uncovered Dougies tactics board!!!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I see them. I'd taken the metalwork to be decorative excess, but I see now that it's part of the intricate workings. I've had a quick email exchange with a mate who is into old games and he reckons that the men twirl when the lever is pulled down. He also says that as many own goals are scored as actual goals due to the whirling dervish nature of the playersthebish wrote:i don't know - it didn't have any info attached - the whole place has been gutted as they are doing a massive renovation scheme to stop the place leaking through the windows, walls and roof - as it has done since the day Lutyens built it! (or rather - lots of other people built it to Lutyen's design - and the owner then filled the cavity walls with concrete!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Ah, mine was much less sophisticated. And the men were wooden , most with broken limbs, in fact it resembled a paralympics football table game!thebish wrote:you don't have to flick your man with this one - it has levers!!
Are the men magnetic?)
anyway - you can see the levers - like old cash-till levers behind the goal - 11 of them!

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I see them. I'd taken the metalwork to be decorative excess, but I see now that it's part of the intricate workings. I've had a quick email exchange with a mate who is into old games and he reckons that the men twirl when the lever is pulled down. He also says that as many own goals are scored as actual goals due to the whirling dervish nature of the players

now i really want to go back - get someone to distract the stazi-guard - remove the protective plastic covers and have a proper go at it!!
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Reminds me off table ice hockey! The levers moving each player up and down.

that old foosball set must be worth a pretty penny these days.

that old foosball set must be worth a pretty penny these days.
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