Freedman out!

[LeverEnd]

page 230 of the petition and frreedmans still not 'out'. - hoboh out

is this another dougie record or have previous incumbents generated more pages ?

Doesn't seem two minutes since tiaras on shire horses was the topic for Megson Out.

Little Green Man is on borrowed time with his 'definite' 246 prediction.

[BWFC_Insane]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

[thebish]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

I think your forgetting the nets Allardyce bought when we were promoted to the prem... they were 24carat gold thread spun on the thighs of Hawaiian virgins... they cost a fair bit...

[Prufrock]

But they were one-offs. It's that windy in Stoke they go through nets like a thing that goes through nets bloody quickly.

[Prufrock]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

Pulis' fourth highest net spend was measured over the same period of time as all the other managers compared (ie Wenger didn't look like he'd spent more than Mancini because he'd been there ten years). I'm pretty sure Allardyce has never been in the top four for net spend over a similar period.

[StaffsTrotter]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

I'm lost. Are you comparing allardyce at ours or w ham v pulis at stoke or palace.
don't think pulis stands comparison with sam in the bolton v stoke stakes or w ham v stoke - as pulis was much more financially backed.
the wham v palace one is much more harder to call. Don't have the impression Sam has had much to throw around and wham have been reasonaly comfortable. pulis obviously pulled out a miracle in a short period, without spending much at palace - could he have maintained it ?

at the end of the day both are good at what they do, but neither are going to be fashionable or get the meeja plaudits

[BWFC_Insane]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

I'm lost. Are you comparing allardyce at ours or w ham v pulis at stoke or palace.
don't think pulis stands comparison with sam in the bolton v stoke stakes or w ham v stoke - as pulis was much more financially backed.
the wham v palace one is much more harder to call. Don't have the impression Sam has had much to throw around and wham have been reasonaly comfortable. pulis obviously pulled out a miracle in a short period, without spending much at palace - could he have maintained it ?

at the end of the day both are good at what they do, but neither are going to be fashionable or get the meeja plaudits

You don't think Allardyce has spent a lot at West Ham? Good god!

[StaffsTrotter]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

I'm lost. Are you comparing allardyce at ours or w ham v pulis at stoke or palace.
don't think pulis stands comparison with sam in the bolton v stoke stakes or w ham v stoke - as pulis was much more financially backed.
the wham v palace one is much more harder to call. Don't have the impression Sam has had much to throw around and wham have been reasonaly comfortable. pulis obviously pulled out a miracle in a short period, without spending much at palace - could he have maintained it ?

at the end of the day both are good at what they do, but neither are going to be fashionable or get the meeja plaudits

You don't think Allardyce has spent a lot at West Ham? Good god!

in comparison with what ?

[BWFC_Insane]

Broadly equivalent? There's no way Allardyce has the fourth highest net spend!

No but he hasn't been there as long!

I'm lost. Are you comparing allardyce at ours or w ham v pulis at stoke or palace.
don't think pulis stands comparison with sam in the bolton v stoke stakes or w ham v stoke - as pulis was much more financially backed.
the wham v palace one is much more harder to call. Don't have the impression Sam has had much to throw around and wham have been reasonaly comfortable. pulis obviously pulled out a miracle in a short period, without spending much at palace - could he have maintained it ?

at the end of the day both are good at what they do, but neither are going to be fashionable or get the meeja plaudits

You don't think Allardyce has spent a lot at West Ham? Good god!

in comparison with what ?

He's been there three seasons. This coming one will be his fourth. One of those seasons was as a championship side.

He has spent to date ~£75M

That is a lot of money for a club of that size by any comparison.

[StaffsTrotter]

thought the comparison debate was allardyce v pulis
anyway found this table below. w ham have spent a lot (not usre how long sam has been there, but you are probably right and my impression was wrong) however it strikes me there are a lot of clubs smaller than w ham spending a lot of money, for survival rather than more obvious 'success'

# Net Spend last 5 Years Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £439,450,000 £129,900,000 £309,550,000 £61,910,000
2 Chelsea £473,759,000 £187,400,000 £286,359,000 £57,271,800
3 Manchester United £266,800,000 £49,600,000 £217,200,000 £43,440,000
4 Liverpool £323,950,000 £222,150,000 £101,800,000 £20,360,000
5 West Ham £84,850,000 £9,300,000 £75,550,000 £15,110,000
6 Arsenal £228,525,000 £156,300,000 £72,225,000 £14,445,000
7 Queesn Park Rangers £85,600,000 £20,250,000 £65,350,000 £13,070,000
8 Stoke City £62,975,000 £5,600,000 £57,375,000 £11,475,000
9 Hull City £54,475,000 £20,750,000 £33,725,000 £6,745,000
10 Sunderland £117,630,000 £88,550,000 £29,080,000 £5,816,000
11 Aston Villa £95,650,000 £71,750,000 £23,900,000 £4,780,000
12 West Bromwich Albion £45,420,000 £25,009,000 £20,411,000 £4,082,200
15 Swansea £53,875,000 £36,960,000 £16,915,000 £3,383,000
14 Leicester £20,000,000 £3,850,000 £16,150,000 £3,230,000
15 Crystal Palace £29,450,000 £18,900,000 £10,550,000 £2,110,000
16 Southampton £114,250,000 £106,350,000 £7,900,000 £1,580,000
17 Newcastle £99,250,000 £92,400,000 £6,850,000 £1,370,000
18 Everton £86,000,000 £82,516,000 £3,484,000 £696,800
19 Burnley £6,900,000 £20,350,000 -£13,450,000 -£2,690,000
20 Tottenham £201,950,000 £225,300,000 -£23,350,000 -£4,670,000

[Hoboh]

Are we in danger of losing Douglas to Palace?

Given that he's a great manager, and Palace is really his spiritual home, wouldn't he go back there? Particular since the know-nowts and West-Stand Boo Boys have it in for him, and he has no money. Palace - a Premier League team - must surely be an attractive proposition.

And the Palace hierarchy clearly Know Football.

Will Palace try to poach our Douglas? I hope not, but maybe we should be worried.

Forgot your pills?

[EverSoYouri]

thought the comparison debate was allardyce v pulis
anyway found this table below. w ham have spent a lot (not usre how long sam has been there, but you are probably right and my impression was wrong) however it strikes me there are a lot of clubs smaller than w ham spending a lot of money, for survival rather than more obvious 'success'

# Net Spend last 5 Years Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £439,450,000 £129,900,000 £309,550,000 £61,910,000
2 Chelsea £473,759,000 £187,400,000 £286,359,000 £57,271,800
3 Manchester United £266,800,000 £49,600,000 £217,200,000 £43,440,000
4 Liverpool £323,950,000 £222,150,000 £101,800,000 £20,360,000
5 West Ham £84,850,000 £9,300,000 £75,550,000 £15,110,000
6 Arsenal £228,525,000 £156,300,000 £72,225,000 £14,445,000
7 Queesn Park Rangers £85,600,000 £20,250,000 £65,350,000 £13,070,000
8 Stoke City £62,975,000 £5,600,000 £57,375,000 £11,475,000
9 Hull City £54,475,000 £20,750,000 £33,725,000 £6,745,000
10 Sunderland £117,630,000 £88,550,000 £29,080,000 £5,816,000
11 Aston Villa £95,650,000 £71,750,000 £23,900,000 £4,780,000
12 West Bromwich Albion £45,420,000 £25,009,000 £20,411,000 £4,082,200
15 Swansea £53,875,000 £36,960,000 £16,915,000 £3,383,000
14 Leicester £20,000,000 £3,850,000 £16,150,000 £3,230,000
15 Crystal Palace £29,450,000 £18,900,000 £10,550,000 £2,110,000
16 Southampton £114,250,000 £106,350,000 £7,900,000 £1,580,000
17 Newcastle £99,250,000 £92,400,000 £6,850,000 £1,370,000
18 Everton £86,000,000 £82,516,000 £3,484,000 £696,800
19 Burnley £6,900,000 £20,350,000 -£13,450,000 -£2,690,000
20 Tottenham £201,950,000 £225,300,000 -£23,350,000 -£4,670,000

It's probably worth acknowledging that in several of these cases, their outgoings have been massively offset by having major saleable assets (e.g. Arsenal, Southampton, Newcastle, Everton and obviously Spurs). Like Bolton, West Ham are unlikely to be in that position. In fact, it could be argued that was the one area where Sam really let us down in his 10 years - not managing to put in place a successful youth-development policy.

[EverSoYouri]

While it's true that too many post-match interviews see football managers talk bollocks, that doesn't excuse our manager who seems to excel in spouting drivel.

The fact is, the post-match interview is one of the places where the manager represents the club to the public and, indirectly, speaks to the fans about what they've just paid money to see. It can be done in an honest and perceptive way: a way which has a chance of keeping fans onside.

Here's my redraft of Dougie's post-Bury match spiel which would help him avoid seeming like a deluded dickhead or just plain dishonest.

"We gave a run out to several squad players who might well feature this season and it took them a while to gel. To their credit, Bury were the better team in the first half, but we had a chat at the break and I thought we picked up in the 2nd half. True, we needed a lucky break with the penalty to get back into it, but we kept going to the final whistle, so I reckon we earned that break. In extra time, we took control and our quality showed through, which I'm pleased about, although we need to defend set pieces better, so we'll be taking a very careful look at what went wrong with their second goal."

See? It's not that difficult.

Not for a non arrogant sod with half a brain maybe!

As the saying goes - 'if he had another half a brain he'd be a halfwit'.

[EverSoYouri]

i want Tony so bad

Aye and I want Mourinho. I reckon there is about the same chance of either happening.

You're both in with a chance!

https://twitter.com/AnthonyMourinho

[EverSoYouri]

i want Tony so bad

Aye and I want Mourinho. I reckon there is about the same chance of either happening.

You're both in with a chance!

https://twitter.com/AnthonyMourinho

Uh-oh! Sorry to get your hopes up and then dash them so soon, guys. But, apparently, Gartside has just entered secret talks with some guy called Jose Pulis.

[thebish]

apropos of not much... I heard on t'radio this morning that Burnley fans have invented a great new original nickname for Dyche... they call him the Ginger Mourinho...

[EverSoYouri]

apropos of not much... I heard on t'radio this morning that Burnley fans have invented a great new original nickname for Dyche... they call him the Ginger Mourinho...

Calm yourself. Such trifles will be of little concern to us, once José Pulis takes the helm at the Macron...

[Harry Genshaw]

I heard a story about Dougie yesterday that was far too scandalous to repeat on here - you know the type - "my aunt's masseuse has a friend who walks his dog" etc. I'm skeptical on what I was told but part of the story was that he has a place at No 1 Deansgate. Anyone know if that's true? It may give the tale some foundation

[General Mannerheim]

I heard the club owned a few places at no1 that they use to put up new or loan signings? So there might be some truth in it

[jonnybwfc]

True that the club owns a few places in No. 1. Moritz was/is living there.