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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by ChrisC » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:34 pm

Burnley have applied for an extension to sign an unnamed player.

Wasn't they in for Mavies?

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:40 pm

It always amazes me how many deals don't go through on the grounds of insufficient time. You've has all summer?! :conf:
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by malcd1 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Apparently the striker we were after was Nick Powell. Meh!
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by ChrisC » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:52 pm

Feckin Rotherham sign Becchio!

Suppose he wouldn't fit in here being proven goal scorer in this league!

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:19 am

Jugs wrote:Burnley apply to Premier League for an extension. Player not named. Hope it's not Mark Davies.
I don't care who the player or the club are there's either a deadline or there isn't.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:26 am

We'll be told "Mark Davies is staying. It'll be like having a new player" .....and that will probably be that unless Beckford actually does go. In that case we'll probably hear that Craig Davies and Joe Mason, ably backed by Connor whatsit, will fly the flag.

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:29 am

TANGODANCER wrote:We'll be told "Mark Davies is staying. It'll be like having a new player" .....and that will probably be that unless Beckford actually does go. In that case we'll probably hear that Craig Davies and Joe Mason, ably backed by Connor whatsit, will fly the flag.

I so want to be wrong....
I hope you're wrong too.

Someone at the BN seems to think there'll be another striker with us (on loan, presumably) by the Wednesday game. I assume they meant the next game and not the away game in January. Also, incase anyone missed it from the BN website...
Armitage93 wrote:Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.

However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could.

The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world.

Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated.

We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game.

Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns.

Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:36 am

↑↑↑ .... & then he spoils it all by saying Trotter has helped "strengthen us significantly".


I know the reality, I just don't need telling to cheer up about it.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:43 am

I don't think many of us expect much in the way of signings. We expect the team/players to perform to something approaching their ability. It's Dougie's job to get them to do that and he is failing. If Dougie was squeezing the best out of the team to cling on to 20th place, we might not like it, but we'd accept it as the reality we're in.

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:51 am

^ agreed. We all know the 5hit we're in financially. Does this excuse some of the dross served up?

It's a curious remit Dougie has. "We want a man to cut our costs significantly. To do this, we're going to pay compensation to a club for an as yet unproven manager and then make that bloke one of the highest paid managers in the league" :crazy:

This is in addition to very well paid directors and chairman and us still being one of the largest spenders on agents in the division.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Hoboh » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:08 am

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:We'll be told "Mark Davies is staying. It'll be like having a new player" .....and that will probably be that unless Beckford actually does go. In that case we'll probably hear that Craig Davies and Joe Mason, ably backed by Connor whatsit, will fly the flag.

I so want to be wrong....
I hope you're wrong too.

Someone at the BN seems to think there'll be another striker with us (on loan, presumably) by the Wednesday game. I assume they meant the next game and not the away game in January. Also, incase anyone missed it from the BN website...
Armitage93 wrote:Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.

However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could.

The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world.

Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated.

We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game.

Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns.

Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient.
What utter bullshit, Freedman or Gartside must have posted that one up!
If the writer had half a brain he'd soon work out that money is not losing us games, it's Freedman and his pals, on and off the pitch.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by Jugs » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:29 am

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:We'll be told "Mark Davies is staying. It'll be like having a new player" .....and that will probably be that unless Beckford actually does go. In that case we'll probably hear that Craig Davies and Joe Mason, ably backed by Connor whatsit, will fly the flag.

I so want to be wrong....
I hope you're wrong too.

Someone at the BN seems to think there'll be another striker with us (on loan, presumably) by the Wednesday game. I assume they meant the next game and not the away game in January. Also, incase anyone missed it from the BN website...
Armitage93 wrote:Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.

However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could.

The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world.

Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated.

We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game.

Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns.

Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient.
I can understand and sympathise with some of these points, but only to a degree. Financial restrictions aren't the reason he continues to make bizarre decisions on the field, such as playing Medo and Pratley on the right wing whilst leaving Feeney on the bench.

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:45 am

It's that apathetic attitude that is killing our club. Oh he's not got as much money as 8/9 other teams, so it's okay they we're the worst team in the division.

"He's had to make do with a £5m midfield, a £3.5m forward line and a defence that cost a comibined £7.5m, (but he saw fit to offer them all contracts making them HIS players).

All this whilst the likes of Rotherham, Huddersfield, Brentford etc all spend trillions on their squads. No wonder they're above us!"
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:17 am

Who is Armitage93 anyway?
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:45 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Who is Armitage93 anyway?
It's a urinal I think.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by EverSoYouri » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:02 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Who is Armitage93 anyway?
It's a urinal I think.
Lol.

I think if you read later in the thread, he talks of being stuck in America.

Some of his points are fair but, not for the first time, it seems someone who doesn't/can't attend games thinks he has gems of wisdom to offer those of us who traipse to Horwich on a regular basis for our bowl of football gruel.

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Post by Loyal White » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:59 pm

Armitage93 wrote: The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.
What bullshit is this?!

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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:01 pm

EverSoYouri wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Who is Armitage93 anyway?
It's a urinal I think.
Lol.

I think if you read later in the thread, he talks of being stuck in America.

Some of his points are fair but, not for the first time, it seems someone who doesn't/can't attend games thinks he has gems of wisdom to offer those of us who traipse to Horwich on a regular basis for our bowl of football gruel.
Yes it's easier to be reasonable when you don't have to sit through it. Sometimes a slightly more detached view helps put the disappointments into perspective, but I always get irritated when people harp on about balance sheets etc like Dougie's a business troubleshooter rather than a manager. I'm a fan not a shareholder in a bank.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:59 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
EverSoYouri wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Who is Armitage93 anyway?
It's a urinal I think.
Lol.

I think if you read later in the thread, he talks of being stuck in America.

Some of his points are fair but, not for the first time, it seems someone who doesn't/can't attend games thinks he has gems of wisdom to offer those of us who traipse to Horwich on a regular basis for our bowl of football gruel.
Yes it's easier to be reasonable when you don't have to sit through it. Sometimes a slightly more detached view helps put the disappointments into perspective, but I always get irritated when people harp on about balance sheets etc like Dougie's a business troubleshooter rather than a manager. I'm a fan not a shareholder in a bank.
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Re: Dead Deadline Day

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:18 pm

ChrisC wrote:Feckin Rotherham sign Becchio!

Suppose he wouldn't fit in here being proven goal scorer in this league!
Yep thought the same. Dugout wouldn't have a clue what to do with him mind...

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